Kate Hate

[MamoruHisaishi]

I came across some old threads in other forums and also articles where Catherine was being criticized for being lazy, dumb, overrated, a gold digger and called all sorts of names. There were even threads that questioned why people disliked her so much, and multiple pages of replies stating why she was so disliked. I am wondering why this seems to have now been forgotten, even if Meghan became the new media target, why is it hardly mentioned the amount of hate and vitriol that Catherine went through?

Kate her children had many threats and still have. Here is one of them (and many we don't know of). People have just a short memory.

Man convicted after threat to Prince George | CNN

Haters isn’t allowed

@RYGO Why are you addressing that to me? I know about that, and have seen that link before.
Appalling for any of these hate threats on anyone.

The real victim of all this is poor Prince Edward… nobody started ANY rumours about how there were women plotting and scheming to marry him 😢

Did any of those ladies go through the vicious racism and hatred that Meghan has gone through for the past seven long years, though?

And why on god’s green earth should something so abhorrent “go with the territory?”

The double standards are striking.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal

Just looking at mn not other places. No one has had the level of threads ripping them apart that Meghan has had.
saying oh but this happened somewhere else about Kate is silly, some people like me don’t trawl the internet to find this stuff. On mn / this site I have never seen 100’s of threads ripping any of other rf women, only Meghan.

People are horrible to Meghan I just don’t agree it’s unique to her. Imagine if MN existed in the 90s/early 00s and how proportionally Camilla would have been treated.

(or Diana - people have collective amnesia since she died and became the people’s princess, but before that people could be REALLY nasty about her)

Oh stop being so goady @MamoruHisaishi those were not mainstream criticisms. People thought she was a bit dull and should possibly get a job pre-marriage. New women in the RF always get a rough time. Now her buttoned down public persona works fine as POW.

Lots of the - mostly female - columnists (looking at you Daily Mail) were really sly in how they did it.

Always referring to her as 'Waity Katy' & Kate's mother Carol as 'former air hostess'..
Oh and the fact her Uncle was a n'er do well in a Council flat or some such..It got very boring very quickly.

Because either people have short memories or weren't following the RF at the time.
Kate wasn't popular at all. And it started from the very beginning. You had journalists who disliked her because she wouldn't play the media game and kept quiet about her relationship for years. Then you had the people who thought she wasn't good enough for William due to her non aristocratic background (because having parents who are self-made and built their own business is so horrible, right?!) then you had trolls who only saw her as a princess in waiting and was doing nothing but to party and never had a job. The narrative was that her and her mother plotted and were desperate for the crown.

A lot of people seem to think that these attacks stopped right after she got married but it really didn't. The press needs a villain and that villain was Kate. From 2011 to 2016, you had articles about feuds with Beatrice and Eugenie, with the Queen, that her and William were keeping George away from Charles, that they are lazy (I did agree with this at the time), that Kate had an eating disorder, some of the press blaming her for the topless photos scandal and the nurse committing suicide after a prank.

If you look at the comments on Katemiddletonreview.com, which is supposed to be pro Kate blog, 90% of them are negative

Even after Meghan first came on the scene, look back at the articles, documentaries in 2017-2018, she was branded as the anti-Kate, modern, fun, breath of fresh air vs boring, old fashioned and traditional.

Then, unfortunately, Meghan became the new villain and they finally left her alone

Haha. I loved the story that Carol Middleton had plotted from birth that Kate was going to marry William so she kept tags on him so that her child would end up at university with him, and that they'd fall in love with each other. Such a simple plan. But imagine her chagrin when William changed his course from Art History to Geography. She held a family summit where they discussed the pros and cons of Kate changing subject, too, which came to nought when Kate said she didn't want to. Pesky daughter. Could Carol keep it all on track? Could she successfully voodoo William into falling in love with her daughter? Could she persuade Kate to keep up the pretence for over 20 yeaes? So exciting. 😄

Because either people have short memories or weren't following the RF at the time.

Long views are not favoured here, I’m afraid. A good memory of history is unforgiveable. An awareness of how the nature of media coverage has changed, how the economics of media companies have fundamentally changed, how press practices that were totally normal are now no longer countenanced, is not considered an advantage, but derided. There is only one orthodoxy, and all else is criticised. Only one truth is acceptable, we are constantly told.

Some of us have no interest in putting blinkers on, but others shout louder.

It goes with the territory of marrying into the Royal family. Fergie was called all sorts. Duchess of Pork being one name. She was endlessly scrutinised and still is. Then her daughters were and are picked on and over. It’s not just Meghan

Kate was to go to Edinburgh and changed to St Andrews and had a year out so it wasn’t from birth but it was certainly planned

You keep saying that, like it’s appropriate, like it’s the thing to do, because you can, because it’s acceptable.

It’s abhorrent, it’s appalling and it’s wholly unacceptable.

Again NOT TRUE. She had applied to multiple universities just like every body else does. She had gap year just like everybody else does.

She accepted St Andrews before the deadline. William made his choice publicly known after the deadline. In other words she didn't know he would go there.

She also had a boyfriend her entire first year at university.

So no it wasn't planned. That's just a media tabloid narrative at the time because they wanted him to marry a aristocrat. Not a girl from home counties.

Also you are acting like William didn't have a choice in the matter. She didn't force him to fall in love with her.

We are now TWENTY years further down the road. They dated, married, had three children and people are still spreading that BS narrative invented by tabloids.

Yes, it’s certainly possible that Kate decided to take a gap year and change from Edinburgh to St Andrews after she knew what William’s plans were as part of a cunning master plan to nab him. I can’t help but think that then spending her first year dating another man she met at St Andrews rather suggests that she’s terrible at strategic planning, though. If you’re prepared to move to Scotland for a shot at the future King surely you’d realise the best tactic is to remain available! 🤣

What part of William not announcing his University until AFTER the deadline had passed are you not understanding?

Yes, Kate applied to Edinburgh as well as St Andrews. She probably applied to Glasgow & a few others.

She had to choose St Andrews before anyone knew where William was going - just as every other female student who started at that University that year.

It's petty, juvenile nonsense to keep repeating this inaccurate slur.

😂This👆

People always post this sort of stuff, it’s odd almost like they think women should just put up with it.
but I suppose if they say it’s wrong and should not happen, no more threads bashing Meghan, and they enjoy them too much

There's an increase in articles trashing Charles and Camilla. It's obvious that Charles and Camilla's camp and Will and Kate's camp are briefing against each other.

Yes, people still focus on H&M but I think you're right. The two main factions in the royal family giving stories to their favoured journalists about the 'other side'. Apparently Camilla is very chummy with many a journalist...

I’m not the one picking on anyone tho am I. I’m referring to the media.

@RitzyMcFitzy didnt Harry hint at that in his book? That it was Camilla and her team that were responsible for putting the negative stories about him out when he was a teenager to rehabilitate hers and Charles’ reputation.

And he recounts a time when William came to him in a rage shouting that she had done something similar to him (this is towards the end of the his time with the royal family) and that she had gone too far this time and that he was planning on doing something about it (but by this point Harry had had enough with it all and was rising above it).

You’re right, @Samcro

And where would they get their racist frustrations out?
I suppose they could always go to Twitter or Quora, where there’s a mountain of hatred for both the Sussexes. Oh - and denial that their children exist.
SMH

The other part is that media coverage and social media are never proportionate. People (especially women) who become unpopular for whatever reason get utterly monstered. Kate, Camilla, Sophie and the York sisters are at the height of their lifetime popularity whereas Meghan is at the height of her unpopularity. So it’s a little silly comparing them because of course the coverage is different. You can’t even compare it to the periods Kate, Camilla, Sophie, the York sisters etc were all unpopular because people have forgotten that was ever the case! If you compare Meghan to other female celebrities that are unpopular it’s fairly similar. Look at Katie Price, the media and social media revel in every flaw and failure. Every time she messes up it’s front page. The monstering of JK Rowling by certain quarters? Or Amber Heard? Rebecca Vardy? There is no sense of proportion whatsoever. It’s the modern pillory.