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Prince Harry now does 60 seconds RF bashing

324 replies

ncpostingabout · 02/01/2023 19:14

And another interview...

This whole drama gets weirder and weirder.

He is completely deluded, lost the plot it feels.

And I'm no royalist either

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sausage767 · 02/01/2023 23:01

@ancientgran thats why he spent the majority of his tour of duty safely sidelined (rumour has it in their base camp playing Xbox), because he wasn’t actually fit for active combat duty. And they claim the RF never protected him, they have covered Harry’s ass so many times.

Pyvadanya · 02/01/2023 23:07

JustWhattheDoctorOrdered · 02/01/2023 21:39

I am not a royalist.

I am black.

The British press has brought shame on the country with the way they have discussed Meghan Markle. If you don’t believe this it’s probably because you are a Guardian reader and oblivious to the things that have been printed over the years. I have become ashamed to be British because of what has been written about her in a so called civilised society and feel upset and really defensive when discussing it with Jamaican relatives.

So, I’m not a royalist and the British press have displayed astonishing misogyny and racism when reporting MM. BUT I still think that M and H are really misguided in what they are doing, especially H.

It shows a huge lack of wisdom to attack your family using the world’s media. Leaving aside whether it is justified or not, attacking family in public never, ever brings about good results. I really feel for them and personally feel (perhaps because of my own experience of being a black woman in the U.K.) that they probably did suffer harsh and unfair treatment. But there is no way that can be fixed by publishing books and making TV programmes about it. All family problems are solved by honest face to face discussions in private.

H and M are going totally down the wrong path.

Beautifully put.

Damnautocorrect · 02/01/2023 23:07

I once saw him described as a carrier bag floating aimlessly in the sky.
I think it’s a perfect description of a very lost man.

Blossomtoes · 02/01/2023 23:10

sausage767 · 02/01/2023 23:01

@ancientgran thats why he spent the majority of his tour of duty safely sidelined (rumour has it in their base camp playing Xbox), because he wasn’t actually fit for active combat duty. And they claim the RF never protected him, they have covered Harry’s ass so many times.

Apparently he spent the vast majority of his time in Bastion purely because it would have been such a symbol of triumph for the enemy had they succeeded in killing him. Just as Andrew was only allowed to do one inspection flight a day in the Falklands.

AuroraCake · 02/01/2023 23:11

sausage767 · 02/01/2023 23:01

@ancientgran thats why he spent the majority of his tour of duty safely sidelined (rumour has it in their base camp playing Xbox), because he wasn’t actually fit for active combat duty. And they claim the RF never protected him, they have covered Harry’s ass so many times.

They basically managed him for years until his wife ripped off the lid they were keeping on things. She wasn’t to know. I think she had no idea about any of it and it all just hit her in the face.

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 23:18

Gingerkittykat · 02/01/2023 22:45

Where did you get your psychiatry degree from?

It has been confirmed that there were credible threats to their lives by mainly right wing racists and that people had been convicted for that. Wouldn't you be obsessive about protecting your family if that was happening to you?

There were threats, you are correct and convictions were made. And yes of course it would make you worry for your family.

But it's the compulsive and constant statements made out to be "an immediate threat" is upon them, that is concerning, where there is no proof of this, and security services actually downgraded their need for protection even when returning to the UK.

But Harry would lead you to believe a hostile sniper is in a van outside his house daily waiting to get them at any opportunity because of the media, by his connotation of speech sometimes. It's terribly worrying.

He's not well, it doesn't mean he is a bad person, or a villain, he's simply someone who is not well. I do hope he's continuing therapy and support.

I've worked with veterans with PTSD, I've worked with DA survivors with trauma bonding, PTSD. I've worked with people who have clinical psychological disorders like BPD, Schizophrenia amongst other conditions.

Some of the behaviour, thinking and patterns are not dissimilar.

I worry for him that's all.

ancientgran · 02/01/2023 23:21

sausage767 · 02/01/2023 23:01

@ancientgran thats why he spent the majority of his tour of duty safely sidelined (rumour has it in their base camp playing Xbox), because he wasn’t actually fit for active combat duty. And they claim the RF never protected him, they have covered Harry’s ass so many times.

Well at least I can stop worrying about those young soldiers.

AuroraCake · 02/01/2023 23:21

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 22:33

I agree, if Harry were my son, I would be massively massively concerned.

I'd worry about his mental health, his behaviour and use of the media and what he is saying in it, and also then the backlash he's getting on a global scale from news outlets and social media, because of the interviews, documentaries and books.

A vicious circle that needs to be broken.

I think I'd just fold, say come home, you can have whatever palace you want, hell even have Buckingham Palace, but let me help you. Enforce a media blackout on them from all press offices and outlets, and just help him.

You would bring him home. Wrap him up and give him everything he wanted and just give him time.

he just looks more and more unhinged really. Want more can the family ever say. Recollections May vary.

the Dutch royal family had a similar incident some years ago where the Queens niece married some guy and all of a sudden they were making accusations of this and that. All the then Queen could say was it didn’t match the families experience of life. They were sidelined and eventually divorced and a I think they were insinuations of coercive control.

not that ai necessarily think that is hat is going on here. I think it’s far more concerning that Harry’s flights are being given air.

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 23:28

AuroraCake · 02/01/2023 23:21

You would bring him home. Wrap him up and give him everything he wanted and just give him time.

he just looks more and more unhinged really. Want more can the family ever say. Recollections May vary.

the Dutch royal family had a similar incident some years ago where the Queens niece married some guy and all of a sudden they were making accusations of this and that. All the then Queen could say was it didn’t match the families experience of life. They were sidelined and eventually divorced and a I think they were insinuations of coercive control.

not that ai necessarily think that is hat is going on here. I think it’s far more concerning that Harry’s flights are being given air.

I really would, and if anyone thought me a weak monarch or a monarch that gave in to demands, I wouldn't care.

That's my child, I want to help.

They can fall off their high horses later, and how hard they fall would be of no concern of mine.

This path they are both hammering down at 100mph without brakes, will only end in disaster.

Someone needs to be the bigger person and just slam the breaks on.

MarshaMelrose · 02/01/2023 23:31

I'm honestly totally lost over what he wants now. He's left the family and he's free. He wants to make up with his father and brother. He's tried privately but they leak (like Harry did to Gayle King). So he's trying to make up with them publicly by....slagging them off?

"Hey, William, can't we be good mates again, you obnoxious, racist, standoffish, rude, twatty, bullying cunt?" 🤔 I mean, what am I missing here?

meditrina · 02/01/2023 23:32

he would have been a teen hearing those tampongate tapes

Probably not.
Tampongate was in 1993 - I didn't live in UK then, and we got the full unexpurgated version straight away. I think it was a little while before UK based outlets went for the full version (only after it was well known overseas)

Harry was 9.

Glittertrauma · 02/01/2023 23:36

Gosh this sorry just keeps getting sadder and sadder, doesn't it?

I watched a couple of the Netflix episodes but had to stop.

Don't believe their story that press hate for Megan was racial at all. She was so embraced when she first started dating him by public and press alike. There was a real appetite for change and modernisation. Most people were pleased to see someone bi racial marrying into the family.

If the criticism was about her race, it would have been there from day one, when all most people knew about her was that. But her press was initially very favourable.

Then it became obvious what a delusional narcissist she was. The fact that she had absolutely no old friends or much family at the wedding and only Hollywood acquaintances was hugely telling for me. A lot of her former friends have told the same story - that she is ruthless about cutting people out when they don't serve her.

All the public lecturing about climate change and then taking private jets everywhere. All the whinging about privacy while also deliberately chasing publicity with rehashed interviews,podcasts, TV shows.

Not wanting to be working royals yet not giving up their titles and naming their daughter after the queen's private nickname (really weird move). Not wanting to do the boring bits of opening community centres but still wanting the flashier gigs.

They could quite easily still be living relatively quietly in Canada but no, had to move to the splashiest mansion they could find at the epicentre of publicityville USA.

Any shred of sympathetic feeling I have left for them is for the children.

They both seem quite unwell.

And their story about Kate never getting negative press - what?!? I clearly remember all the 'waity Katie/ she's a doormat / snobbery about her grandfather being a miner / her and her sister are rabid social climbers' stories about her. The paparazzi that got topless pictures of her on holiday etc. She definitely had as much if not more criticism and intrusion as Megs. She just didn't perpetuate it by trumpeting her victim narrative ad nauseum.

H and M are a pair of raging narcissists with an axe to grid and whatever cause they think they are espousing here, they are only setting it back with their embarrassing behaviour. They need to stop, go back to therapy and step away from things now. But we all know that will never happen.

Floweryflora · 02/01/2023 23:48

I also don’t think he is well. This went from juicy royal gossip at rhe start to now something very disturbing indeed. They need to stop giving him a platform and someone needs to get him help. There is clearly something very wrong.

this isn’t about the royal family or Meghan now, this is about harry unravelling on front of the world.

AuroraCake · 02/01/2023 23:59

Floweryflora · 02/01/2023 23:48

I also don’t think he is well. This went from juicy royal gossip at rhe start to now something very disturbing indeed. They need to stop giving him a platform and someone needs to get him help. There is clearly something very wrong.

this isn’t about the royal family or Meghan now, this is about harry unravelling on front of the world.

I worry sometimes. Look what happened to Diana. All caused by the horrendous relationship she entered with the media…because she thought she could control them and her paranoia…which results in no security.

look at Peaches Geldof. Couldn’t help herself. Obsessed with her poor Mum and then followed her.

MoscowMules · 03/01/2023 00:03

AuroraCake · 02/01/2023 23:59

I worry sometimes. Look what happened to Diana. All caused by the horrendous relationship she entered with the media…because she thought she could control them and her paranoia…which results in no security.

look at Peaches Geldof. Couldn’t help herself. Obsessed with her poor Mum and then followed her.

Oh Peaches Geldof! I felt so sorry for her, and the travesty and tragedy that was.

I don't deny at all that growing up in the media spotlight and press intrusion causes significant trauma.

SuperFi · 03/01/2023 00:07

@Glittertrauma totally agree that everyone seems to have forgotten about all the crap Kate had to put up with.

As for Harry I fear it won’t end well, I’ve often wondered If he has substance abuse problems, and without his family to check on him things appear to be unraveling.

lollipoprainbow · 03/01/2023 00:12

Why can't Charles and William stop being so stiff upper lipped and get their backsides on a plane to America and thrash this out once and for all. All this never complain never explain crap helps no one.

MoscowMules · 03/01/2023 00:13

SuperFi · 03/01/2023 00:07

@Glittertrauma totally agree that everyone seems to have forgotten about all the crap Kate had to put up with.

As for Harry I fear it won’t end well, I’ve often wondered If he has substance abuse problems, and without his family to check on him things appear to be unraveling.

He openly admitted in his Apple TV show to having a problem with alcohol and cocaine usage.

He was actively abusing substances at age 28-32. He met Megan when he was 32 also.

But to go from an addiction to then a whirlwind relationship and marriage and children all within a 24 months doesn't give much time to address those issues. I can see why if it's true William wanted things to go a bit slower.

lollipoprainbow · 03/01/2023 00:14

bakalava · 02/01/2023 20:46

Poor Prince Harry. If his mother was alive, you just know that she would be extending him a huge hug. He has never been further away from those who have his best interests at heart.

True. I wonder what her family make of all this, his uncle, aunts, cousins etc.

KnickerlessParsons · 03/01/2023 00:14

Happygirl79 · 02/01/2023 20:45

A lot like his uncle Andrew. Absolutely no idea how badly he is coming across

Must be a family trait.

His advisers are doing him no favours at all.

Reminds me of the emperors new clothes story

At least Andrew isn't on TV every five minutes moaning about his life, making documentaries and writing books on it, or going on chat shows to talk about how hard done by he is and how poorly he's been treated.

AuroraCake · 03/01/2023 00:16

lollipoprainbow · 03/01/2023 00:12

Why can't Charles and William stop being so stiff upper lipped and get their backsides on a plane to America and thrash this out once and for all. All this never complain never explain crap helps no one.

For an intervention? He’s an adult and left of his own free will.

lollipoprainbow · 03/01/2023 00:16

oxymomon · 02/01/2023 21:33

Is it just me that feels sorry for him? His mother was literally killed by the paparazzi chasing her in a high speed chase. And then he's had the paparazzi following him his whole life, and more recently criticising his wife. Having watched his Netflix documentary, I believe him. I believe he has been treated badly, just as his mother was before him. Now I grant you that there are much worse travesties going on in the world, but this isn't about comparison. The poor man has been unwillingly part of a Truman show type existence since the day he was born. He lost his Mum to that existence aged just 12. He had to walk behind the coffin with what, about a billion people watching? And then shake hands with the public. Then have his adolescence and early relationships criticised. No peace. I feel bad for him and his wife. And I'm surprised people have forgotten how Diana was treated already...

No, I feel desperately sorry for him.

Eilan50 · 03/01/2023 00:17

The fact that she had absolutely no old friends or much family at the wedding and only Hollywood acquaintances was hugely telling for me.

This^
I liked her but alarm bell rang for me when she only had 1 relative at her wedding.
No siblings, cousins, aunts, uncles. That is a VERY odd scenario

AuroraCake · 03/01/2023 00:18

lollipoprainbow · 03/01/2023 00:14

True. I wonder what her family make of all this, his uncle, aunts, cousins etc.

They have their own lives and he used to party with Kitty back I. The day but she didn’t have her own father at her wedding.

I doubt he hears much from them to be honest.

AuroraCake · 03/01/2023 00:21

He openly admitted in his Apple TV show to having a problem with alcohol and cocaine usage.

I didn’t know about the cocaine. Wouldn’t be that unusually for that class but still. Nothing about him inspires much faith for the future.