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Prince Harry now does 60 seconds RF bashing

324 replies

ncpostingabout · 02/01/2023 19:14

And another interview...

This whole drama gets weirder and weirder.

He is completely deluded, lost the plot it feels.

And I'm no royalist either

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BradfordGirl · 03/01/2023 00:25

By being so fascinated by him you all keep this going.
Every time he or Meghan says anything there are loads of comments on MN. You all seem a bit obsessed.

Blossomtoes · 03/01/2023 00:29

BradfordGirl · 03/01/2023 00:25

By being so fascinated by him you all keep this going.
Every time he or Meghan says anything there are loads of comments on MN. You all seem a bit obsessed.

And yet here you are. And on the RF board - which is pretty well hidden.

MoscowMules · 03/01/2023 00:33

BradfordGirl · 03/01/2023 00:25

By being so fascinated by him you all keep this going.
Every time he or Meghan says anything there are loads of comments on MN. You all seem a bit obsessed.

I disagree, I think having polite, calm and compassionate conversation about possible concerns for someone's mental health is valid.

If anything it might make people who are intent on throwing rocks on various social media platforms think twice about their views and comments, and being nasty just for the sake of being nasty.

BradfordGirl · 03/01/2023 00:38

Having concerns for someone's mental health LOLOLOL
You know nothing about him. His mental health may be better than it was when he was a working member of the Royal Family and close to William. You would not have expressed concern about his mental health then. Because you do not know him and have zero idea about his mental health.
These are real people you know.
I could make up some insane narrative that I am concerned about William's mental health because he rarely smiles widely and laughs at public events. Oh he must secretly be very depressed and maybe suicidal. It would have as much validity as your narrative i.e. none.

BradfordGirl · 03/01/2023 00:39

@Blossomtoes Yeah you are right, it came up in active. I will just leave you to your obsessive made up stories.

Sunshinegirl82 · 03/01/2023 00:52

I think it's incredibly sad that his relationship with William has broken down to the point where I can't see it will ever recover. William will never be able to trust him again.

The circumstances of their birth and childhood are so unique, to lose the one person in the world that can truly understand your childhood and all the nuance of your life is just so sad.

Unfortunately I think Harry will suffer more than William as a result of the breakdown of their relationship. Perhaps he already realises that to an extent but is now so far down this road it's too late to turn back.

I hope Harry is able to find peace in his life at some point. His current choices don't seem to be leading that way however, I'm not sure he really knows what he's trying to achieve anymore.

Pixiedust1234 · 03/01/2023 00:54

BradfordGirl · 03/01/2023 00:38

Having concerns for someone's mental health LOLOLOL
You know nothing about him. His mental health may be better than it was when he was a working member of the Royal Family and close to William. You would not have expressed concern about his mental health then. Because you do not know him and have zero idea about his mental health.
These are real people you know.
I could make up some insane narrative that I am concerned about William's mental health because he rarely smiles widely and laughs at public events. Oh he must secretly be very depressed and maybe suicidal. It would have as much validity as your narrative i.e. none.

I could make up some insane narrative that I am concerned about William's mental health because he rarely smiles widely and laughs at public events. Oh he must secretly be very depressed and maybe suicidal.

What a pity that terrestrial news channels could prove you are a big fat liar in seconds if you did this. A lot of news coverage shows him laughing 🙄

BradfordGirl · 03/01/2023 00:57

@Pixiedust1234 You do realise that was an analogy of how insane some of the theories being expressed are? I am laughing that you felt you needed to refute my analogy.

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KloppsTeeth · 03/01/2023 01:59

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 21:55

There is clear trauma in Harry, of which is completely understandable.

I'd wage PTSD, more so from ACES than combat, but both can contribute. He probably also has a BPD. Narcissistic personality disorder maybe, PTSD and PBD can go hand in hand.

Problem with PTSD sometimes it can manifest and present as a inability to trust and paranoia.

Some of the sweeping statements H makes sorta "fulfill" this. He has a deep routed belief that The Royal Family are out to get him and Meghan. That the British press want to kill Meghan.

These are clearly very unhealthy thought cycles, and I do worry without the appropriate help, these will cycle over and over again.

Meghan strangely has also become "the model of my mother, the model of my trauma" which will intensify those feelings of distrust, paranoia and overall trauma response.

He's become fixated on Meghan and her safety, borderline compulsive about it, and he probably doesn't even acknowledge this.

One of the best things I have seen written about this situation.

we are a mixed race family. We were so hopeful when Meghan joined the RF. I think there are aspects of her personality that feed into Harry’s trauma though. I also lost a parent when I was young. Of course not on the scale of intrusion into my life of that which happened to H, but I can empathise with the trauma and profound loss you feel for the rest of your life.

Netflix etc want their pound of flesh, they aren’t there to help H & M. They want ratings, and if this over exposure damages his mental health they don’t care. They are as bad as the tabloids. they’ve tried and failed with some of the best PR advice out there, and without some solid advisors, this is really sad to watch. I hope H&M find happiness with their children and each other, but I fear they won’t.

oxymomon · 03/01/2023 04:33

Pixiedust1234 · 03/01/2023 00:54

I could make up some insane narrative that I am concerned about William's mental health because he rarely smiles widely and laughs at public events. Oh he must secretly be very depressed and maybe suicidal.

What a pity that terrestrial news channels could prove you are a big fat liar in seconds if you did this. A lot of news coverage shows him laughing 🙄

The lack of empathy and understanding of mental health conditions in this post is concerning. Just because "a lot of news coverage shows him laughing" does not mean someone isn't depressed. From masking to seeking attention to bipolar episodes and so much more, it is not at all unusual for the life and soul of the party to be broken inside.
This comment is not even about the RF or H&M. I'm just in shock that someone could be so ignorant of how depression manifests that they'd cite public laughter as proof someone is not depressed...

pilates · 03/01/2023 07:03

It reminds me of a hamster’s wheel. Just stop it. This isn’t going to end with peace and happiness.

Youkai · 03/01/2023 07:31

Thedietstartsyetagain · 02/01/2023 20:45

I can’t wait to watch it but because I love Anderson Cooper, can’t imagine Harry’s got anything new to add

Me too!!

Anderson Cooper’s mother was Gloria Vanderbilt. He’s very used to life growing up with a very eccentric family. The Vanderbilts were one of the richest families in the US before all their money got pissed away. His brother died by suicide, so he knows a lot about mental health and the pressure of growing up in a famous family BUT Anderson has worked very hard all his life and built up his career by himself without trading on his family name. I think he’s an incredibly interesting and intelligent man.

Harry is such a plonker. He’s had so many opportunities in life and yet he’s just so boring and self-absorbed. I can’t imagine why anyone would pay to hear him speak.

susan12345678 · 03/01/2023 07:54

I agree Anderson is an interesting journalist, but Harry's self-pitying whining makes him absolutely unwatchable for me. I'll read the synopsis elsewhere

Happygirl79 · 03/01/2023 08:27

KnickerlessParsons · 03/01/2023 00:14

At least Andrew isn't on TV every five minutes moaning about his life, making documentaries and writing books on it, or going on chat shows to talk about how hard done by he is and how poorly he's been treated.

Fair point!

C8H10N4O2 · 03/01/2023 08:36

oxymomon · 02/01/2023 21:33

Is it just me that feels sorry for him? His mother was literally killed by the paparazzi chasing her in a high speed chase. And then he's had the paparazzi following him his whole life, and more recently criticising his wife. Having watched his Netflix documentary, I believe him. I believe he has been treated badly, just as his mother was before him. Now I grant you that there are much worse travesties going on in the world, but this isn't about comparison. The poor man has been unwillingly part of a Truman show type existence since the day he was born. He lost his Mum to that existence aged just 12. He had to walk behind the coffin with what, about a billion people watching? And then shake hands with the public. Then have his adolescence and early relationships criticised. No peace. I feel bad for him and his wife. And I'm surprised people have forgotten how Diana was treated already...

And don't forget - any word from Harry and that evil furriner harpy is obviously a "tissue of vengeful lies", whereas the years long steady PR campaign against them from Kensington Palace, home to the Cambridge-Wales is apparently just dandy. All those "sources close to Kensington Palace" are bolstering the image of a lacklustre couple whose main achievement is teeth and wearing expensive clothes, compared to their older working royals and Harry when he was a working royal.

Meghan had death threats from far right groups and Harry was not even allowed to pay for security. For context plenty of non working royals have had fully tax payer funded security and travel expenses will into adulthood - Andrew's girls for a start.

H&M's PR isn't targeting DM readers on MN - its targeting the significant support they have in other demographics.

lollipoprainbow · 03/01/2023 08:38

@C8H10N4O2 👏👏👏

Getamoveon36 · 03/01/2023 08:39

lollipoprainbow · 03/01/2023 00:12

Why can't Charles and William stop being so stiff upper lipped and get their backsides on a plane to America and thrash this out once and for all. All this never complain never explain crap helps no one.

Why? So they can be featured in the next instalment of pity porn? How could they ever trust him not to sell out the conversation when Netflix want their next pound of flesh. Anything the RF do will be weaponised by H&M.

GyozaGuiting · 03/01/2023 08:42

Why is none of this ever fact checked? There’s never any dates, names or actual evidence. No interviewer actually interviews. They’re just sat there for Harry and Meghan to talk at them, it’s astonishingly bad journalism.
Harry mate, get therapy, take a holiday, go and get a ‘job’ earn your millions and be happy with your new family.

HaveYouSeenNancy · 03/01/2023 09:09

I used to work with a habitual sniffer and we could convince him of anything, he is the most suggestible person I've ever met. For that reason this is the first time I have ever felt sorry for Harry - I thought he was a horrible person (and he might be) but I now think he's being exploited.

Walnutwhipsarenothesame · 03/01/2023 09:12

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 22:33

I agree, if Harry were my son, I would be massively massively concerned.

I'd worry about his mental health, his behaviour and use of the media and what he is saying in it, and also then the backlash he's getting on a global scale from news outlets and social media, because of the interviews, documentaries and books.

A vicious circle that needs to be broken.

I think I'd just fold, say come home, you can have whatever palace you want, hell even have Buckingham Palace, but let me help you. Enforce a media blackout on them from all press offices and outlets, and just help him.

I very much doubt Charles has the understanding or awareness to realise how mentally unwell Harry is. Why didn't he put help in place years ago before Harry met Meghan? It's clear he is a mess. There is no way M would want to come back to the UK under any circumstances, particularly under Charles' wing .

This is a couple who are obsessed with one another to an unhealthy degree. They have a great life, a lovely house and two lovely children. Good physical health and lots of money. They proclaim how ecstatically happy they are, yet their actions are not those of happy people. Why can't Harry focus on his children rather than on his bitter grudges?

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/01/2023 09:15

BethJ62 · 02/01/2023 22:45

Had Diana taken advice and kept her security she would not have got into a car being driven by a drunk driver but rather an advanced trained driver . And been told to wear a seat belt .
It was utterly tragic but let’s remember what actually happened.

Probably why Harry wanted to keep his then.

HaveYouSeenNancy · 03/01/2023 09:18

WalnutWhips - I thought Harry had been in rehab and therapy before he met Meghan?

Walnutwhipsarenothesame · 03/01/2023 09:21

HaveYouSeenNancy · 03/01/2023 09:18

WalnutWhips - I thought Harry had been in rehab and therapy before he met Meghan?

He did seek therapy after William suggested it . Charles does not seem to have been involved at all. He was never in rehab. Whatever therapy he's had doesn't seem to have been very effective.

cyclamenqueen · 03/01/2023 09:22

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/01/2023 09:15

Probably why Harry wanted to keep his then.

He could have kept it if he had stayed in the U.K. but we can’t provide security overseas. The cost of sending met officers ( and families?) on secondment would be astronomical. You would need at least 4 ( two on Two off) plus cover for holidays , sick etc. plus what would the US authorities think of U.K. police officers operating on their territory .

tbh He would have probably done what his mother did and got rid of them on the basis that they were ‘spying on him’ .

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