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ncpostingabout · 2023-01-02T19:14:36+00:00

And another interview... https://youtu.be/UYBFMfWWBC8 This whole drama gets weirder and weirder. He is completely deluded, lost the plot it feels. And I'm no royalist either

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 22:17

purpledalmation · 02/01/2023 22:10

@MoscowMules Agree. I've said before he is heading for a breakdown. He's just not mentally stable at all. I think his family have protected him before he met Meghan, so we've seen little of this instability, by goodness me, he sounds unwell now.

However much we want him to STFU he can't because he is contractually obliged to give pre book launch interviews. Don't do them and he could be sued for breach of contract, hence an extension of the car crash that his life has become.

Sadly I think Meghan is the worst possible partner for him as her narcissistic tendencies and need for control plus his unstable mental health, have created a perfect storm.

It's sad really, which is why I won't join in on the mud slinging against them. Because I feel a bit like you'd be slinging mud at the unwell. Which is never a good look, in my opinion.

He has a history which does lead one to believe trauma has been a massive part of his life from childhood, he's also got a history of alcohol and class A substance misuse/addiction. Again massive factors in his mental health and ability.

I think your right when you say the palace have to a certain extent, especially when he was a young man, hidden a lot of it. But now without the palace PR machine, his genuine poor mental health is on full display.

I couldn't tell you if Meghan is good or not good for him. I don't know enough. Maybe she feeds it, maybe she's enabling it or maybe she thinks she's helping, but not really and inadvertently becoming a catalyst for it.

Who knows. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Prescottdanni123 · 02/01/2023 22:17

@Londonlondon6

So Harry and Meghan always tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth do they?

We are only getting one side of the story here. And Harry and Meghan are taking advantage of the fact that the people that they are firing shots at can't fire back.

materialgworl · 02/01/2023 22:18

Good for him.

pinneddownbytabbies · 02/01/2023 22:19

JustWhattheDoctorOrdered · 02/01/2023 21:39

I am not a royalist.

I am black.

The British press has brought shame on the country with the way they have discussed Meghan Markle. If you don’t believe this it’s probably because you are a Guardian reader and oblivious to the things that have been printed over the years. I have become ashamed to be British because of what has been written about her in a so called civilised society and feel upset and really defensive when discussing it with Jamaican relatives.

So, I’m not a royalist and the British press have displayed astonishing misogyny and racism when reporting MM. BUT I still think that M and H are really misguided in what they are doing, especially H.

It shows a huge lack of wisdom to attack your family using the world’s media. Leaving aside whether it is justified or not, attacking family in public never, ever brings about good results. I really feel for them and personally feel (perhaps because of my own experience of being a black woman in the U.K.) that they probably did suffer harsh and unfair treatment. But there is no way that can be fixed by publishing books and making TV programmes about it. All family problems are solved by honest face to face discussions in private.

H and M are going totally down the wrong path.

Excellent post, and I completely agree that the media's treatment of her was appalling and totally unacceptable.

Using the media to attack your family is really not the way to go about things, not when it was the media that caused so much of the problem in the first place. Two wrongs don't make a right. Just look at the treatment meted out by the media towards Camilla (albeit for different reasons) for so long. She simply maintained a dignified silence, and turned it around. H & M should have taken a leaf out of her book and done the same.

abitsharp · 02/01/2023 22:21

Anderson I think, is a clever reporter and says 'there is a lot of complaining and a lot of explaining'... I think he is actually aiming it at Harry because the RF have said nothing. Right over Harry's head!

Yes I thought the exact same.

WinnieTheW0rm · 02/01/2023 22:21

Britain isn't the target of their PR.

A breach that the Royal Family won't budge to repair could actually be quite a useful device for them in remaining overseas

saffronrabbit · 02/01/2023 22:24

He is not surrounded by people who have his best interests at heart, I don't think we ever realised how unstable and traumatised he was. He is not very bright and deeply troubled and being manipulated and played like a puppet.
Knowing how vulnerable he is was probably why William wanted him to slow down with Meghan and not rush into marriage.

They will not allow themselves to be interviewed or really challenged by anyone who will not reinforce their narrative and support their truth unfortunately therefore this interview will be more if the same.

I suspect Charles is deeply concerned for his son, and views this shit show with deep sadness.

purpledalmation · 02/01/2023 22:29

howmanybicycles · 02/01/2023 22:11

I don't follow the royal family at all. He seems to be suggesting that he's reached out to his family and then they leak stories to the press. Is that right? I can only ever see H&M initiating things in the press but am I missing something? are there stories about H&M which are damaging them and which are not in reaction to their own publishing activities? things that have happened since they decided not to work as royals any more? What would those stories be?

You've summed up the whole Harry and Meghan conundrum there in one go!
Nobody knows what the hell they are on about! No specifics, vague, misdirected etc etc. 'They' this, 'they' that. No names, no actual articles, 'the newspapers called Archie the n word' (show us which one). 7 hours so far of this meaningless accusations and innuendo.

purpledalmation · 02/01/2023 22:32

abitsharp · 02/01/2023 22:21

Anderson I think, is a clever reporter and says 'there is a lot of complaining and a lot of explaining'... I think he is actually aiming it at Harry because the RF have said nothing. Right over Harry's head!

Yes I thought the exact same.

Anderson is a real reporters reporter, and Harry has to do this interview. It's going to be a train wreck. ☹️

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 22:33

saffronrabbit · 02/01/2023 22:24

He is not surrounded by people who have his best interests at heart, I don't think we ever realised how unstable and traumatised he was. He is not very bright and deeply troubled and being manipulated and played like a puppet.
Knowing how vulnerable he is was probably why William wanted him to slow down with Meghan and not rush into marriage.

They will not allow themselves to be interviewed or really challenged by anyone who will not reinforce their narrative and support their truth unfortunately therefore this interview will be more if the same.

I suspect Charles is deeply concerned for his son, and views this shit show with deep sadness.

I agree, if Harry were my son, I would be massively massively concerned.

I'd worry about his mental health, his behaviour and use of the media and what he is saying in it, and also then the backlash he's getting on a global scale from news outlets and social media, because of the interviews, documentaries and books.

A vicious circle that needs to be broken.

I think I'd just fold, say come home, you can have whatever palace you want, hell even have Buckingham Palace, but let me help you. Enforce a media blackout on them from all press offices and outlets, and just help him.

BethJ62 · 02/01/2023 22:34

oxymomon · 02/01/2023 21:33

Is it just me that feels sorry for him? His mother was literally killed by the paparazzi chasing her in a high speed chase. And then he's had the paparazzi following him his whole life, and more recently criticising his wife. Having watched his Netflix documentary, I believe him. I believe he has been treated badly, just as his mother was before him. Now I grant you that there are much worse travesties going on in the world, but this isn't about comparison. The poor man has been unwillingly part of a Truman show type existence since the day he was born. He lost his Mum to that existence aged just 12. He had to walk behind the coffin with what, about a billion people watching? And then shake hands with the public. Then have his adolescence and early relationships criticised. No peace. I feel bad for him and his wife. And I'm surprised people have forgotten how Diana was treated already...

His mother was killed because she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and got into a car being driven at speed by a drunk driver .

purpledalmation · 02/01/2023 22:35

I can understand now why Charles won't turn his back on his son.
I think Meghan and Harry are what's called a follie a deux in psychology terms.

BabyFour2023 · 02/01/2023 22:38

pharaohrocher · 02/01/2023 21:05

And you are all Royalists yes?

I'm not, DH isn't, my family aren't, and most of my friends aren't. Everybody I've spoken to is firmly on the side of Harry and Meghan, and is rather enjoying the negative press this is all bringing the royal family.

Neither are my family and they don’t side with either. Nobody believes a word that comes out of this spoilt, entitled, privileged, petulant manchilds mouth.

BabyFour2023 · 02/01/2023 22:39

@oxymomon

Is it just me that feels sorry for him?

Yes.

Gingerkittykat · 02/01/2023 22:40

Why do you think Harry is delusional?

The press ran with the Wills and Kate are perfect and Harry and Meghan are bad. I remember seeing a story in the Fail one day about how she had worn the wrong nail varnish, that was how deep their obsession with her was.

The press has suppressed any bad stories about the Cambridges. William was also at the Colonial and Natives party with Harry. He was wearing a leotard and leopard print to look like an African but the press never mentioned that. Look at the injunction William got after his affair and even a story about Kate getting hair extensions was quashed recently.

Do you not think that the royal family has a bigger and sleeker PR machine than Harry does who feed us the narrative the RF chooses to portray? Have you noticed how the Cambridges wheel out the kids for good publicity to distract from anything bad?

EdithWeston · 02/01/2023 22:41

His mother was killed because she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and got into a car being driven at speed by a drunk driver

And the narrative coroner's verdict included that the actions of the following vehicles (ie the paparazzi) was also a cause.

EdithWeston · 02/01/2023 22:42

BabyFour2023 · 02/01/2023 22:39

@oxymomon

Is it just me that feels sorry for him?

Yes.

No

Boundaryqueen1 · 02/01/2023 22:43

I love Harry & Meghan. They are the sweetest, most human royals out there. Diana would be so proud.

QueenSmartypants · 02/01/2023 22:45

JustWhattheDoctorOrdered · 02/01/2023 21:39

I am not a royalist.

I am black.

The British press has brought shame on the country with the way they have discussed Meghan Markle. If you don’t believe this it’s probably because you are a Guardian reader and oblivious to the things that have been printed over the years. I have become ashamed to be British because of what has been written about her in a so called civilised society and feel upset and really defensive when discussing it with Jamaican relatives.

So, I’m not a royalist and the British press have displayed astonishing misogyny and racism when reporting MM. BUT I still think that M and H are really misguided in what they are doing, especially H.

It shows a huge lack of wisdom to attack your family using the world’s media. Leaving aside whether it is justified or not, attacking family in public never, ever brings about good results. I really feel for them and personally feel (perhaps because of my own experience of being a black woman in the U.K.) that they probably did suffer harsh and unfair treatment. But there is no way that can be fixed by publishing books and making TV programmes about it. All family problems are solved by honest face to face discussions in private.

H and M are going totally down the wrong path.

Well said, I agree.

I also think that the genuine security threats, when racially based, carry a different weight - particularly for an American black woman.

I think Harry is an overprivileged prat though!

And didn't they sack their pr?

Gingerkittykat · 02/01/2023 22:45

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 21:55

There is clear trauma in Harry, of which is completely understandable.

I'd wage PTSD, more so from ACES than combat, but both can contribute. He probably also has a BPD. Narcissistic personality disorder maybe, PTSD and PBD can go hand in hand.

Problem with PTSD sometimes it can manifest and present as a inability to trust and paranoia.

Some of the sweeping statements H makes sorta "fulfill" this. He has a deep routed belief that The Royal Family are out to get him and Meghan. That the British press want to kill Meghan.

These are clearly very unhealthy thought cycles, and I do worry without the appropriate help, these will cycle over and over again.

Meghan strangely has also become "the model of my mother, the model of my trauma" which will intensify those feelings of distrust, paranoia and overall trauma response.

He's become fixated on Meghan and her safety, borderline compulsive about it, and he probably doesn't even acknowledge this.

Where did you get your psychiatry degree from?

It has been confirmed that there were credible threats to their lives by mainly right wing racists and that people had been convicted for that. Wouldn't you be obsessive about protecting your family if that was happening to you?

BethJ62 · 02/01/2023 22:45

EdithWeston · 02/01/2023 22:41

His mother was killed because she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and got into a car being driven at speed by a drunk driver

And the narrative coroner's verdict included that the actions of the following vehicles (ie the paparazzi) was also a cause.

Had Diana taken advice and kept her security she would not have got into a car being driven by a drunk driver but rather an advanced trained driver . And been told to wear a seat belt .
It was utterly tragic but let’s remember what actually happened.

Rousettus · 02/01/2023 22:46

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Fireflygal · 02/01/2023 22:51

Enforce a media blackout on them from all press offices and outlets, and just help him

In his present state of mind he would react to this very badly and it would escalate his paranoia. I have no doubt the trauma of losing his mum was handled badly...then knowing his Dad & Camilla had a messy & public affair (he would have been a teen hearing those tampongate tapes. Cant imagine how mortified & betrayed he would have felt!!)

He clearly needs healing and I don't think M is the right person to bring about that healing. She is ambitious and celebrity focused (gushing over the Beyonce text) so they are at different stages..this will become more apparent unfortunately.

I think he has layers of trauma and he isn't emotionally stable...add in lack of intelligence and the result is complete lack of insight by doing these interviews.

ancientgran · 02/01/2023 22:56

MoscowMules · 02/01/2023 22:17

It's sad really, which is why I won't join in on the mud slinging against them. Because I feel a bit like you'd be slinging mud at the unwell. Which is never a good look, in my opinion.

He has a history which does lead one to believe trauma has been a massive part of his life from childhood, he's also got a history of alcohol and class A substance misuse/addiction. Again massive factors in his mental health and ability.

I think your right when you say the palace have to a certain extent, especially when he was a young man, hidden a lot of it. But now without the palace PR machine, his genuine poor mental health is on full display.

I couldn't tell you if Meghan is good or not good for him. I don't know enough. Maybe she feeds it, maybe she's enabling it or maybe she thinks she's helping, but not really and inadvertently becoming a catalyst for it.

Who knows. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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The thing that always strikes me with the issues round drink/drugs/instability/family protecting him is what about the men he was commanding as an officer on active service? If I had a son or daughter serving in the military with people trying to kill them I would not be impressed if the RF had covered up his issues and endangered my child so he could play soldiers.

I hope he wasn't showing signs of some mental disorder that was covered up.

sausage767 · 02/01/2023 22:58

Gingerkittykat · 02/01/2023 22:40

Why do you think Harry is delusional?

The press ran with the Wills and Kate are perfect and Harry and Meghan are bad. I remember seeing a story in the Fail one day about how she had worn the wrong nail varnish, that was how deep their obsession with her was.

The press has suppressed any bad stories about the Cambridges. William was also at the Colonial and Natives party with Harry. He was wearing a leotard and leopard print to look like an African but the press never mentioned that. Look at the injunction William got after his affair and even a story about Kate getting hair extensions was quashed recently.

Do you not think that the royal family has a bigger and sleeker PR machine than Harry does who feed us the narrative the RF chooses to portray? Have you noticed how the Cambridges wheel out the kids for good publicity to distract from anything bad?

You need to check your facts instead of just repeating this rubbish.

The injunction was sought because the affair rumour was false and injurious. I’m sure you would want the same if this was your marriage under a cloud.

The hair extension story was because the vendor was using Kates image implying that she had extensions, and using the POW to advertise their business.

The RF has pretty clear guidelines on what types of press stories they will act upon.

I really don’t see how you can compare the Cambridges publishing sweet family photos of their kids with H & M giving multiple interviews maligning their close relatives. That’s ludicrous.