Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

Surely all this public complaining and sharing will have the same effect on his children as he is complaining about public scrutiny did to him? Being in the public eye - same for him and his kids (the press in the US is possible worse for making up utter bonkers stuff than here).

He really isn’t very self aware is he?

If PH had a traumatic childhood with mental health problems as an adult how was he allowed to be an officer in the army flying an armed helicopter, in a war zone and carry a gun? No ordinary citizen would have been allowed in witn that history.
The reason he had to leave the army was because he couldn't get to the next level by passing the exams

@Roussette

Harry sounded relaxed and happy

I agree. Lots of you will hate that, but he does. There is a big amount of positivity for him opening up about how it is for him.

Some of you on here sound positively upset and/or furiously angry about him doing a podcast.
Why in god's name do you listen or look at anything about them and then come and write about it. It baffles me.

There are certain people in the public eye I don't particularly like. I get a rumbling when something newsworthy has happened and I avoid threads and press about them because I'm not a fan. Why can't others? Don't answer saying it's not just the DM. It is only a tiny tiny corner of news and you have to seek out to find out about it, it is very easily avoidable.

chaosrabbitland they feel this deeply which is why they are doing their best to give back in all sorts of ways. I don't think one couple can be blamed for all you wrote about it.

How would you feel Rousette if one of your children went on national TV to disparage their upbringing and complain about how things were for them if they were living in absolute luxury that their family connections had provided? Especially if one of their grandparents who had done a lot for them had just died/was dying? I bet you wouldn't welcome it. If your daughter in law who you had tried hard to welcome in every way had rubbished your input?

@TheSuezCanalTugBoat

Harry is still young and blinded by love. I think he will come to regret creating this circus in a few years time.

I hope the royal family leave the door open for him and Meghan. We all make mistakes, and we were all young and stupid once.

They are not young. They are a privileged couple in their mid to late thirties. Yes it's young compared to a 70 year old but actually they've been adults for near on 20 years.

For all people say 'Americans love them', a lot of Americans don't care or find them a bit of a joke who bang on about how hard done by they are in an era where a lot of people are homeless, underemployed, have no insurance, etc.

Fact is they must surely realise that to live the extravagant lifestyle they want for the duration of their lives (which could be another 40+ years) they're going to need a lot of money. Billions. Professional victimhood needs to pay very well.

'If Harry was my son I'd be distraught'

Yes. I wonder what his old genuine friends think, does anyone say 'look Haz, have some respect for your family. You didnt like Markle Senior oversharing so why tf are you doing it?'.

I doubt it though, I bet he's surrounded by yes people and wokesters egging him on.

The reason he had to leave the army was because he couldn't get to the next level by passing the exams

That really is not true. He spent ten years in the Army and moved on.

He does realise that the only reason he has all these things (and not as Joe Bloggs the ex soldier) is because of his terrible/awful family?

mermaid

I am not a member of the Royal Family so it's a silly question. They are funded by the taxpayer, I'm not!

I cannot imagine what it would have been like to live in that family so I am unable to answer your question.

It is not a normal upbringing by any stretch.

Sorry, I didn’t see this bit ( this is being quoted in the Telegraph btw). This is where he really puts the boot in on his father and grandparents

The Duke appeared to be speaking about his father, the Prince of Wales, when he said it all came down to awareness.

“Suddenly I started to piece it all together, and go: OK so this is where he went to school, this is what happened, I know this bit about his life, I also know that’s connected to his parents. So that means he’s treating me to the way that he was treated which means… how can I change that for my own kids?

@Roussette

The reason he had to leave the army was because he couldn't get to the next level by passing the exams

That really is not true. He spent ten years in the Army and moved on.

He 'moved on' to being a full-time royal - or what passes for full-time when you're royal - even though he now says he never wanted to be.

The way the little brat is whining and moaning, you'd think he had no choice. But he did. He could have stayed in the army. Yes, it would have involved moving to a desk job, and Harry's ability, or lacktherof, with exams is very well-known. Or if he didn't want that he could have looked for something else. The royal family gave him everything. None of his new American 'friends' would take his or his wife's calls if it weren't for the royal connection. Which presumably is why they still insist on using the titles of the institution they disparage in public on a regular basis.

Counselling is a great treatment for mental health problems for effective and sustained recovery.

However the wrong kind of “over counselling “ can lead to excessive introspection and preoccupation with your own feelings - people can get stuck in this cycle - like being stuck in a grief cycle
This is not helpful for recovery and can actually be harmful- good family relationships and supportive friends can be protective against mental health problems in the main- surely not all Harry’s friends and family needed to be cut off ?

I think if he wants to change things in order to treat people better, publicly criticizing people who have no right to reply is not the way forward.

I hope they both get help to deal with the significant issues which are haunting them as they seem very troubled human beings. I cannot condone the harm they are doing to others though. Their current strategy seems to be convincing the public that they are victims. This is never going to be the route to recovery as it is too black and white underdeveloped thinking. People are more nuanced than they are allowing and they are victimising people too. I do hope they get actual real help that allows them to move to a much more mature view of what has happened in their lives.

It probably sounds dramatic but I just feel like he isn’t in the right place mentally to properly consent to all this oversharing I think he is being exploited for the money these dramatic statements bring in.

The fact he was surprised he was “frozen out “ means he doesn’t have full capacity to weigh up consequences

I think at some point in the future Harry will look back at this time in his life and massively cringe. I don't think Meghan will though.

The hypocrisy is mind blowing. He talks in this podcast about Josh Rogan's remarks on vaccinations. It is such an obvious attempt to distance himself from another prominent Spotify podcaster who is not sharing the accepted 'woke' views on this issue.

He says Josh should 'stay out of it'. Yet all the while he and Meghan are lecturing the world on vaccinations and making demands of Vaccine providers. Why shouldn't Harry 'stay out of it'? Why are his opinions on these issues more valid than Josh Rogan's? Neither of them have any relevant skill or experience in that area.

No he didn't. He rejected becoming a full time royal at that point and went off to Africa.

And I have to say.. calling him vile names takes away the rest of your post.

Nowhere does it say he failed exams and that's why he left the Army. That is just made up.

I agree @Lockupyourbiscuits

My mum was highly manipulative and at times self-centred after a childhood of sexual abuse. She went to counselling and came away with the message that she 'needed to think of herself more'. A very narrrow and unhelpful analysis which probably created dynamics which did more harm to her (as well as others). H&M need much more than self-affirmation I think and indeed too much of that will compound their problems. I hope they get skilled therapy rather than just counselling.

There seem to be quite a few parallels with how it all panned out for Sarah, Duchess of York when she cut loose from the royal family, found herself in financial difficulties and tried to make a go of things in the US.

She was 'helped' by Oprah too. There was a Finding Sarah documentary series on Oprah's network, featuring some counselling with Dr Phil and others.

Who was exploiting who? It was very confusing and unclear.

Eventually Sarah got into selling stuff on a shopping channel to keep the wolf from the door.

I feel like I don't want to see the same happening to Harry ... and would like to tell him just to downsize and hold onto his dignity!

'It probably sounds dramatic but I just feel like he isn’t in the right place mentally to properly consent to all this oversharing I think he is being exploited for the money these dramatic statements bring in.'

Totally agree. You just think oh no someone please stop him, this will not end well. He'll end up needing more therapy for his awful treatment of his poor family.

But to leave in such an ungracious way, bitching and moaning from the house with 15 bathrooms which you could only buy because of royal money

Sixteen. And, every one of them necessary, clearly.

The gloves are off, this is what it tells me and Harry is not worried about taking the Queen down with him - given the direct implication on her parenting.

I can only assume from the latest public putting down of his family that he was not met with open arms at the funeral, and they are seething about it.

I am appalled, and I am having my own therapy for inherited pain and childhood trauma, and I would not dream of publicly embarrassing and taking down my parents and family like this.

Sorry if someone has already posted this, but I agree with the observation “Harry is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Oprah plc”

His selling points are being Prince Harry and having mental health problems. If he is an ordinary bloke and cured he is worth nothing.

@CovidCorvid

So he could access counselling/a therapist but she wasn’t allowed to? That’s very peculiar.

And not very believable - Diana saw a therapist.

What was stopping Megan from finding and seeing one for herself?

@Lauren15

It also f&**@ks** me off that H is basically trying to fund a luxurious lifestyle with this pitty parade. He has absolutely nothing unique or useful to offer the world except a connection to the family he is trashing. I would say it won’t last forever but Paul Burrell still pops up now and again and he was only the butler.

Yes, it's the commodification of victimhood. All part of a pretty ruthless (in terms of repeatedly sticking the boot into his family) branding exercise in pursuit of deals and $$$ with such exemplary corporations as Proctor & Gamble and Netflix.

What is it, exactly that Prince Charles is supposed to have done in terms of "treating [Harry] like this"? As far as I can see, his crime seems to be that he refused to act as a bottomless money pit for a nearly 40 year-old man with a taste for an increasingly lavish lifestyle.

@Roussette

No he didn't. He rejected becoming a full time royal at that point and went off to Africa.

And I have to say.. calling him vile names takes away the rest of your post.

Nowhere does it say he failed exams and that's why he left the Army. That is just made up.

He 'went off to Africa' for how long exactly? And how did he fund this trip? I doubt being a mere Captain in the army pays that well. And why didn't he stay there if being a 'full-time' royal was such a hardship?

As for 'vile names', grow up. He wouldn't cross the road for you.