Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

Aspiringmatriarch

Exactly.

Of course the royal family are disfunctional. It’s the nature of the beast. The Queen has literally worked hard all her life and put her job first . Yes Charles had a difficult relationship with his father but anyone can see he had come to terms with that in later life and the emotion at his death was plain to see. They are at the mercy of the press and that comes with the job and their family life and work is intertwined.

However they do also have a privileged life , And they do have the best healthcare available to them and land and horses luxurious accommodation and travel and comfort . And they have had a family life it’s just different.

Harry can have all the therapy he likes and he has made his escape but sorry I fail to see how his problems compare in any way to “ordinary “ people . Because they are not ordinary and never will be . He has a life that many of us would long for and his own family now and yes he can help others using his experience but I just wish he could speak to his many therapists and work his problems out . We can all know he is doing it that’s fine , but keep it private .

Never complain , never explain .

'Those that are genuinely concerned about MH, do you really think the people assisting them in these endeavours of oversharing their self-centred view of the world have their best interests at hearts? If you do then you're naïve - it's £ signs in people's eyes, pure and simple and everyone knows that.'

Yes and while I have empathy for anyone with mh problems attacking and blaming others constantly and publicly is not healthy or constructive. Change the record fgs and move on.

I pity him I really do and have a horrible unsettling feeling this will escalate. He seems to seek validation by being a victim. It's all he knows.

I wonder what his ex girlfriends are thinking?

I had a friend who had been sexually abused by a family member as a child, when it came out her family split (mum left, and she was left homeless at high school before her mum reluctantly let her sleep on her sofa).

She was having to work and study. Did she ever cry into her tea? No she bloody well didn’t. She only ever said that she was proud of herself for speaking out because her little sister was getting to the age when her had abuse started and she didn’t want her to be abused too.

I have always felt sorry for Harry.Losing a parent as a child is hugely devastating .I lost my Dad when I was 8 and you never really "get over it" just learn to live with it .Counselling has its place, and I have been to a wonderful lady who helped a lot .However with Harry he seems to want to beat his drum endlessly, and tell everyone how much he has suffered. At first we were sympathetic ,but now are getting a little tired of these "interviews"where he is laying bare his soul ,and expects everyone to feel for him even though he has attacked the RF. Esp his DB and now DF and DGM! The poor Queen has lost PP recently ,and will be grieving .She doesnt need all this on top!

@MobyDicksTinyCanoe

Why's everyone skirting around the fact that Harry's had to carry the weight of speculation about his parentage and jokes about his dead mothers sex life from the entire world. And not one person in his family spoke out to say enough is enough.

Dealing with that all alone through your formative years and beyond would mess anybody up.

Apart from speculation about his parentage, William has had exactly the same experience and you don't hear him continually moaning about his lot and whining that his father didn't treat him properly when he was growing up! Harry should just shut up permanently - he is now irrelevant!

He's not said much about the difficulties of being brought up as the 'spare', which must be a very odd situation. Agree with all the posters saying he should resolve his unhappiness privately.

'I'm fascinated by all this indignation about 'airing dirty laundry'. It sounds like something from the abuser's playbook'

He is doing what Markle Senior did. Talking about private family relationships publicly, it's just hypocritical. His poor family having to tolerate these outbursts. He needs to look in thr mirror not point the finger constantly.

I doubt Haz was 'abused', we'd surely have heard about it by now, he just has a massive chip on his shoulder and is lashing out. Whatever therapy he's had he should ask for a refund.

There is an on-line petition to strip him of his titles ... sure he would be grateful to escape the dreadful weight on his shoulders if we all signed

Harry could have saved himself a fortune in therapy fees and just used his Spotify connections to source the Mike & the Mechanics song, 'The Living Years.'
It's hardly a new concept. We've all been there and know the theory. It's just that when most of us grow up a bit and mature, we can feel jolly glad we didn't "over share" in public.

@Aspiringmatriarch I thought I’d already quoted this. Maybe it was on the other thread

“Asked if he was consciously trying to “parent” his son, Archie, in a different way to his own upbringing, he said: “Yeah... Isn’t life about breaking the cycle? There’s no blame. But certainly when it comes to parenting, if I have experienced some kind of pain or suffering because of the pain or suffering that perhaps my father, or my parents had suffered, I’m going to make sure I break that cycle so I don’t pass it on.”

Thus questioning both his father and his grandparents parenting. Ok, he says there is no blame, but then why mention it at all? And in public.

Jeremy Corbyn chose not to sing a song deifying a rich and powerful old woman and was given a barrage of abuse for it. That’s what I find sinister about this country. The rise of one fit one mold patriotism. If you don’t like Meghan and Harry click away. No one is forcing you to listen to them or will accuse you of being unpatriotic for doing so. If only the same could be said for opposing the institution of monarchy.

There is an on-line petition to strip him of his titles

How sensible. Not. Let Prince Andrew and Prince Michael of Kent carry on with their military patronages but take it all from Harry. He doesn't use HRH unlike those two, whilst avoiding FBI questions on a paedophile friend, and being Putin's mate and selling access to him.

'There is an on-line petition to strip him of his titles ... sure he would be grateful to escape the dreadful weight on his shoulders if we all signed'

That would only add to his persecution complex though.

I think the RF's dignified silence and ignoring him is the best approach. I think his public blabs are backfiring as more and more people are seeing just what a contrary mixed up mess he is.

Do you know that Charles as the king in waiting has had a hard time in that respect and I don’t like how he treated Diana , But the Princes Trust literally turned my Neices life around at one stage.
You can use a dysfunctional serving the country type of life to do good and when Prince Philip died lots of people did not realise the hundreds of charities he was involved in .
Harry can use his Royal connections and help others. An opportunity most of us do not have . He is lucky in many respects. So just get in with that . But not by moaning about his family who because of protocol won’t be able to give their side if the story .

I do think i they would be advised to keep quiet in the subject. It then the whole ‘oversharing’ thing is very American but they do realise that they have to keep feeding the beast don’t they?

@AmandaHoldensLips

I just can't believe they're still whining about their lives.

I can. They honestly believe their own hype.

For a man who wants privacy he certainly likes to whine publicly to us peasants about his life of incredible luxury and privilege

'Thus questioning both his father and his grandparents parenting. Ok, he says there is no blame, but then why mention it at all? And in public.'

Yes I mean fgs we could all criticise some parts of our upbringing as I'm sure all our dc will do. However, parents generally do their best and whatever issues anyone has you don't talk about it publicly. Where is his loyalty? Where is the person who said 'thanks pa' as Charles escorted meghan down the aisle?!

@supermoonrising

That’s because the Queen is not just some old rich woman and she probably carried out more work in one month than JC has done in his lifetime .

And without whinging about it .

Not the priority but the bike thing is weird - he specifically said he had been riding with Archie on his bike and that he couldn't have done that in the UK....but there is literally a picture of him riding on the back of Prince Charles' bike in the same way?!

I wish they would both just go away and enjoy their Montecito life in peace but that really looks quite unlikely from this point. Hard to see how this will end for the family - it's like he is goading them into a reaction to confirm the narrative in his own head that they are evil and persecuting him. Will be interesting to see what they do next.

So Meghan helped him get counselling for his anger and issues when he needed it but neither of them knew how to get help when she needed it-do they not see the contradictions literally EVERY time they blither on?

And...
nimbuscloud

hence Anne's barbed (and excellent) comeback later, when she said "I can't imagine how anyone would think we weren't loved"

I think it’s widely accepted that Anne was his favourite child and philip would have much preferred her to be his first born son.

Someone seems to believe that The Crown on Netflix is a documentary

If Harry is so interested in metal health why doesn't he study for an appropriate degree and train as a proper psychologist/psychotherapist? Most of the stuff he waffles on about is just selfhelp book stuff. Training would show he was serious about understanding metal health issues.

@JaniieJones

'There is an on-line petition to strip him of his titles ... sure he would be grateful to escape the dreadful weight on his shoulders if we all signed'

That would only add to his persecution complex though.

I think the RF's dignified silence and ignoring him is the best approach. I think his public blabs are backfiring as more and more people are seeing just what a contrary mixed up mess he is.

If Harry was my son I'd be distraught