Harry’s podcast

[smilesy]

Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

[LittleBearPad]

But it's easy to see how this sort of thing could feel very sidelining to Harry, especially if for example he's never been handed anything from his Gf or father.

Harry was given Captain General of the Royal Marines by Prince Phillip.

[GCAcademic]

The equivalent of a ceremonial head of state would be Michael Higgins in Ireland or Gudni Johannesson in Iceland. Bet you’ve never heard of them? If dull is what you what from a ceremonial HoS, you will get that in spades with these chaps. Except that they are highly qualified in their non-political careers (the Icelandic President is a historian) and meet the principles of equality for all

I've definitely heard of Michael Higgins. Though, it has to be said, only because I've seen footage of his absolutely gorgeous dogs.

[derxa]

It’s rare to hear young men talking openly and frankly about how they’ve suffered, or are suffering – and it’s exactly what is needed to tackle some of our biggest social crises: male suicide, which hit a two-decade high in 2019 in England and Wales; depression and toxic masculinity. Hearing someone like Prince Harry discuss the ways in which empathy, compassion, self-awareness (and therapy) have helped him deal with his emotions is a breath of fresh air.” I watch lots of TV. Young celebrity men are constantly on the telly talking about their mental health issues. But in a much more coherent fashion than Harry.

[bluebell34567]

@LittleBearPad

From The Times today.

very good

[diddl]

There was an article some time ago about William taking over the presidency of the British Sub Aqua club from Charles.

Charles saying how proud he was to hand it over to William after taking it over himself from Prince Philip.

William may have made a comment about hoping to be able to hand it over to George-not sure.

But it's easy to see how this sort of thing could feel very sidelining to Harry, especially if for example he's never been handed anything from his Gf or father.

It does highlight their different roles-but then most of us have a different job/career/role in life than our siblings, although not necessarily also so bound up in family so that it can seem personal?

[Gorgeouslilgirl]

@Skiptheheartsandflowers

Job?? What job?
Turning up to cut a ribbon.

What an insult to the masses who really do a day’s work

Quite like taking an invented role as chief handshaker at a start up and calling that a job. Or producing one half hour long podcast in six months and calling that a job.

Ah, at least we as the tax payers are not paying for it...and i assume there were some other candidates in the running as well 😊

[bluebell34567]

he tells he doesnt know anything about 1st Amendment and then he says he has a lot say about it. he is contradicting himself.
imo he doesnt know what he is saying. just gibberish.

[StormzyinaTCup]

@ChiefInspectorParker, could you find that clip of William being ‘off the cuff ‘funny’?
I’d be interested because he’s always appeared incredibly dull to me , even when using what appeared to be a prepared script.

Not that particular clip but I remember this one:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=I2TjHg7Bq5c

[Skiptheheartsandflowers]

Job?? What job?
Turning up to cut a ribbon.

What an insult to the masses who really do a day’s work

Quite like taking an invented role as chief handshaker at a start up and calling that a job. Or producing one half hour long podcast in six months and calling that a job.

[Gorgeouslilgirl]

@Marmaladeagain

It is called being able to think broadly as opposed to one track thinking.

How do you square - risking your country being a laughing stock because money enables people like Trump to appeal to mass politicos of division to become president and entertain world leaders?

We like head of state as apolitical and smooths transition relations with other countries political leaders.

Macron is petulant child too and I prefer head of state representing our country around the world to be apolitical and not a Macron or Trump.

I think you misunderstand how different political systems work. In terms of constitutional power, the equivalent of Trump is Boris Johnson.

The equivalent of a ceremonial head of state would be Michael Higgins in Ireland or Gudni Johannesson in Iceland. Bet you’ve never heard of them? If dull is what you what from a ceremonial HoS, you will get that in spades with these chaps. Except that they are highly qualified in their non-political careers (the Icelandic President is a historian) and meet the principles of equality for all

[MargaretFraggle]

The royal family has for many years just been a curiosity and a source of amusement

True. And M&H now are too. Any opinion anyone has of M&H now is of their own making. I never read the tabloids, so knew nothing about them when they were in the RF. Now I can't escape them, so like many people, I have an opinion about them. It doesn't consume my every waking hour though.

Kate is a bit dull, but that's a good thing in a working royal, as H&M, Fergie and Andrew have evidenced!

On irrelevance of the royals - sure, they aren't paramedics, but the Duke of Edinburgh and Princes Trust schemes are just the high profile charities. I was impressed by Camilla's work promoting the domestic violence charity SafeLives during the pandemic, for example.

I am not a royalist but I try to give them credit where credit is due rather than dismissing the entire family outright. H&M will potentially do some good things if they stop airing their grievances (in my opinion).

As an aside, while I have never been Sarah F's biggest fan I thought her Youtube channel during the pandemic was well intentioned and highly amusing

[bluebell34567]

@Gorgeouslilgirl

But Harry s free to say what he likes. He is earning us own living and with that comes free man status.

I haven’t heard the podcast, just read about it in the Independent
“ Prince Harry. I listened to his appearance on the American podcast Armchair Expert, and am left convinced of one thing: Harry can be an important part of the conversation about male mental health.

It’s rare to hear young men talking openly and frankly about how they’ve suffered, or are suffering – and it’s exactly what is needed to tackle some of our biggest social crises: male suicide, which hit a two-decade high in 2019 in England and Wales; depression and toxic masculinity. Hearing someone like Prince Harry discuss the ways in which empathy, compassion, self-awareness (and therapy) have helped him deal with his emotions is a breath of fresh air.”

but he says shut your mouth to someone called Roy something. he is doing it in the country of this person.
he goes there and tells them to shut up. as if he is an expert on everything. he is so hypocrite.

[GlencoraP]

I saw a clip of that . All beer and curry and down with the people 😂

The context was encouraging football players and supporters , so primarily young men to open up about mental health do actually it was appropriate

[Taketheredpill]

@Marmaladeagain,

I’m not sure what the point is that you are trying to make but the argument in favour of removing the royals from their current position of unearned power and riches is much more wide ranging than this.

[Marmaladeagain]

It is called being able to think broadly as opposed to one track thinking.

How do you square - risking your country being a laughing stock because money enables people like Trump to appeal to mass politicos of division to become president and entertain world leaders?

We like head of state as apolitical and smooths transition relations with other countries political leaders.

Macron is petulant child too and I prefer head of state representing our country around the world to be apolitical and not a Macron or Trump.

[Taketheredpill]

[quote GlencoraP]He came across very well In The Peter Crouch podcast as well where he told a funny story about buying a binoculars for Kate and also ordered beer and takeaway for them all .

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08m3ckl[/quote]
I saw a clip of that . All beer and curry and down with the people 😂

Right....

[Taketheredpill]

@Marmaladeagain

We don’t want a president courting popularity and votes for another run at it. The royals are meant to be apolitical and bit dull. I don't use that word myself towards the RF, but in response to it being used as an attempt to belittle them. Doing the job is what matters, not personality - same as best surgeon might also be dull - not a problem.

IMO dull is epitomised by Meghan’s California woke culture and their fear of saying the wrong thing according to their selected peers. They can be as hateful to everyone else as they don’t matter because they don’t use ‘permitted correct thought and speech’.

Job?? What job?
Turning up to cut a ribbon.

What an insult to the masses who really do a day’s work

[GlencoraP]

He came across very well In The Peter Crouch podcast as well where he told a funny story about buying a binoculars for Kate and also ordered beer and takeaway for them all .


www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08m3ckl

[Comeinoutoftherain]

@Gorgeouslilgirl

For all those going on about “ consistency” being so important,
How do you square supporting a monarchy with supporting principles of equality?

Are you fully consistent in your beliefs and actions?

when I speak to consistency, I mean in the context of not having every word Harry says ripped to shreds by the press. IF he was consistent in his message, then there would be less to criticise (although there will always be some).

As for a monarchy, I don't think it is consistent with the principles of equality. I do think it's a better option than a UK elected president in the current circumstances.

[Marmaladeagain]

We don’t want a president courting popularity and votes for another run at it. The royals are meant to be apolitical and bit dull. I don't use that word myself towards the RF, but in response to it being used as an attempt to belittle them. Doing the job is what matters, not personality - same as best surgeon might also be dull - not a problem.

IMO dull is epitomised by Meghan’s California woke culture and their fear of saying the wrong thing according to their selected peers. They can be as hateful to everyone else as they don’t matter because they don’t use ‘permitted correct thought and speech’.

[Shehasadiamondinthesky]

They are just so embarrassing. The whole thing makes me cringe.

[Gorgeouslilgirl]

For all those going on about “ consistency” being so important,
How do you square supporting a monarchy with supporting principles of equality?

Are you fully consistent in your beliefs and actions?

[Taketheredpill]

@ChiefInspectorParker

I don’t think they’re particularly dull. William has a good sense of humour. I saw a video of them being guests on a Radio 1 show (it must have been from a few years ago) and he was very sharp and funny.

I admire Kate’s Early Years stuff. She seems to shine when she’s around children and the work has the potential to do a lot of good. She has done some quite interesting - carefully chosen, maybe, but not dull - projects.

@ChiefInspectorParker, could you find that clip of William being ‘off the cuff ‘funny’?
I’d be interested because he’s always appeared incredibly dull to me , even when using what appeared to be a prepared script.

I admit I haven’t listened to the podcast but what he says rings true.
The royals are clearly a dysfunctional family, perhaps because they have allotted roles ( dysfunctional families usually force people into roles and reject them if they rebel).

I don’t support the monarchy but Harry was an asset to them which they will rue the loss of. He connects with people. He seems to be genuine .
He also seems tortured and is working through that . Most people can identify with that too.
The rest of them seem to believe their own publicity

[Flyerhate1]

None of the Royal Family seem to be uncomfortable with taking hand outs from 'friends' or even strangers, and M&H are following the trend.

I would bet that H&M are continuing to be supported by benefactors, I would not be surprised if their security is being offered to them by someone or other.

Their house in Canada was offered to them free, their first few months in LA were free, they have other peoples private jets at their disposal, they have benefactors offering them paying 'jobs', probably interest free 'loans', (remember Andrew and the $30million chalet in Verbier), so while PC and the RF may not be supporting them, I would be really surprised if they are not being financially supported by some of their new friends.

I have no doubt they will live the billionaire lifestyle without too much effort on their part.

[IcedPurple]

@MoChridhe

Buckingham Palace insiders ‘disappointed’ as Prince Harry interview ‘usurps’ Prince William’s Wolverhampton trip

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/harry-meghan-royals-sussex-latest-b1848034.html
You decide, who do people want to hear from more?

Nobody wants to 'hear from' royals. That's not their role. Most of them are very average, not especially intelligent people with little expertise in anything other than being royal. Their role is to highlight and thank the people who do the hard work and do have the expertise.

As for Harry, ever since he's strayed from giving bland speeches written for him by professionals, he has richly proved the truth of the saying "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."