Harry’s podcast

[smilesy]

Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

[gottakeeponmovin]

God they are just painful. I also wish the media would stop giving them any column inches. They are just doing everything they can to stay relevant. If they weren't doing this they would disappear into oblivion and no one would care. They are both pathetic

[SakuraEdenSwan1]

I think he is probably right about the way the family dynamic continues on, good on him for wanting to bring his children up without all the protocols the Royal Family have preventing him doing normal family things that we all take for granted. The Royal Family needs to reinvent itself to stay modern and relevant because they all live in a complete different world to the people they represent. After the Queen passes I think it should be the end, they are not relatable and Harry has realised this.

[DeRigueurMortis]

I've no idea who thinks an upper class version of Jeremy Kyle is good for either of their mental health.

It's a car crash in slow motion.

Watching two very wealthy people consistently cry "woe is me" is frankly quite nauseating - especially when the cause of their woes (the press/media) is exactly who they are continually choosing to feed.

I hope there are only so many programs they can do like this before media companies stop paying for them.

There's nothing good about any of this for everyone involved.

[mermaidsariel]

@KatherineParr

I actually think this might be the final break between Harry and the rest of the RF.

Up until now he has been careful not to criticise the Queen but when he starts talking about the way Prince Charles was parented.... he's getting very close to criticising the Queen, and that's a red line for the Monarchy.

I really don't understand what his aim is here.

He’s also really criticising PP, the grandfather he adored. He’s saying ‘my father was fucked up by his father. I am not going to do the same’. Which May be fine to think privately, but to say this publicly just after ther person concerned has died, and the family are grieving is awful.

[Nesbo]

The only time I come across anything to do with them is people whining on about them on here. It’s the very definition of “hate following”.

Presumably with COVID and lockdown people ran out of stuff to watch on Netflix so they revel in someone else’s family drama instead.

I mean, that’s fine but don’t pretend they are invading your space - you’re actually low key stalking them!

[Aspiringmatriarch]

I've not seen the other thread, but thought I'd balance this one a bit and say I found the podcast interesting and I think Harry is just someone who wears his heart on his sleeve. I'm sure the RF wish he would keep his mouth shut but I kind of admire the way he's being totally honest about it all. Wherever there's dysfunction, there are people who are invested in sweeping it all under the rug, and clearly Harry is done with that shit. Obviously there's plenty of therapy-speak but that's also the focus of the podcast, and the interviewers were really drawing that out. It was interesting.

[CauliflowerCheese30]

This couple apparently want privacy, I don't see much privacy happening

[Aspiringmatriarch]

@CauliflowerCheese30

This couple apparently want privacy, I don't see much privacy happening

This is always quoted. It's not what they said. HTH.

[StartupRepair]

Harry's unhappy life is in fact his main marketable quality. However there will come a time when everyone has heard his tale. What will he be talking about in 10 years time?

[GreySweater]

I think Harry is a bit out of his depth (& certainly out of touch with his family and the British public). He is not treading carefully here - I think he is being seduced by the generally positive reactions of the masses in the USA to his very personal stories and struggles, and being a bit dim about how this is going to play out at home. I fear he will regret being so open. But he just doesn't see it / doesn't want to see it yet.

[Spasiba]

Just ignore them, they'll shut up eventually. I hope.

[nimbuscloud]

He’s also really criticising PP, the grandfather he adored. He’s saying ‘my father was fucked up by his father. I am not going to do the same’. Which May be fine to think privately, but to say this publicly just after ther person concerned has died, and the family are grieving is awful.

But I don’t think he is saying anything that Charles himself had not already said?

[Puzzledandpissedoff]

when he starts talking about the way Prince Charles was parented.... he's getting very close to criticising the Queen, and that's a red line for the Monarchy

Worth remembering that Charles did the same in his whinefest to Jonathan Dimbleby - hence Anne's barbed (and excellent) comeback later, when she said "I can't imagine how anyone would think we weren't loved"

Like father like son perhaps?

[CallmeHendricks]

"Wherever there's dysfunction, there are people who are invested in sweeping it all under the rug, and clearly Harry is done with that shit."

I don't think that keeping a dignified silence is necessarily the same as sweeping it under the carpet.
I thought it an interesting admission that Harry, when discussing how his mental health struggles were dealt with when he was a child, he said: '[I was told] You need help. As a case of, not weakness but 'I don't know how to deal with this. You're unhinged, you're not very well, go and seek help'.
He's saying someone said he was "unhinged?!" And aside from that, that's quite an admission. Brave, yes, but perhaps foolish, if it means that people might use it against him.

[smilesy]

It’s all very well him wearing his heart on his sleeve, but he is publicly disparaging his father and grandparents. It is not relevant that they are the Royal Family, they are his family and are also human beings and will be hurt by this. There is so much over sharing without a thought for the other people involved.

[Lauren15]

@Roussette

No one has to read the DM or read anything about them if you don't want.
You obviously do!

It’s widely reported by various media outlets. I know you love defending H but you can’t blame this on the DM.

[nimbuscloud]

For example, William and Harry went to Eton and not Gordonstoun - which was a very public rebuke to Philip

[quizqueen]

Unfortunately, I will be long dead and gone to hear what Archie has to say about his parents when he grows up.
'Oh, I could have been a prince but instead I'm a beach bum with no close family other than a sis and we both have to hustle for money from the media. Oh well, Sis is gonna try and sell Diana's watch tomorrow.'
Diana who?

[nimbuscloud]

hence Anne's barbed (and excellent) comeback later, when she said "I can't imagine how anyone would think we weren't loved"

I think it’s widely accepted that Anne was his favourite child and philip would have much preferred her to be his first born son.

[Lauren15]

Fgs Charles has just lost his father. Does he really deserve that from one of his df?

[CallmeHendricks]

"I think it’s widely accepted that Anne was his favourite child and philip would have much preferred her to be his first born son."

Widely accepted?! FGS, how on earth could anyone know that sort of ridiculous "fact" with any degree of certainty. Philip is hardly likely to have told uttered such a thought, even if it were true.

[Marmaladeagain]

This terrible upbringing that produced William also, who matured and doesn't rely on selling his mother - which is the only reason the US are interested in Harry.

CBS the same channel that showed the photos of Diana in the car after the accident - that channel is who Harry works with. He doesn't respect his mother with selling his soul to a media outlet that was willing to publish photos like that - he is a circus curiosity to them. He will be the butt of jokes soon enough over there with his pity show.

[nimbuscloud]

Keep your hair on!
Is it not also widely accepted that Andrew was the Queens favourite?