Traitors UK S2 Thread 5 - “Another man? Just like olden times”

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Welcome Faithfuls!

This thread is for Traitors UK S2. Posting at TV pace so if you are not fully up to date then beware of possible spoilers.

Hang up your cloak, and pull up a chair at thr Roubd Table.

Who would like to start?

@TitsInAbsentia Claudia is the best, but I do enjoy Alan Cumming's campness on the US version

Sorry im still no clearer.

Say there are 2 left, you and another play. You don't want the game to end because you don't trust the other player but you can't banish either. So a faithful could know that someone is a traitor but still lose?

@Stowickthevast
But if Ross decides to target Harry, he may be able to get the support from Jaz, Evie, Zach and maybe Andrew.

That's what I'm thinking: Ross and Andrew form an alliance to target Harry, which would mean getting the support of Jaz (who has voted for Andrew before), Evie and Zach (all of whom suspect Harry already). I think Mollie could do a Charlotte and turn on Harry if the others have a chance to persuade her.

Where Jasmine fits in to all this I'm not sure - she's under suspicion atm so could be the next to be banished? She was suspicious of Jaz but then voted Paul, so will she now refocus on Jaz, and if so who will her allies be? She doesn't seem to have much influence over the others.

I never noticed that!

I wonder whether either Harry or Andrew were shrewd enough to notice that look of grim determination on Ross's face, or smart enough to realise that they now have an enemy within. Possibly Andrew, but maybe not Harry, who is enjoying 'being naughty and not getting told off for it'.

@FruitBowlCrazy I guess they have no clue about Ross / Diana so we (correctly) interpreted it as rage / wanting revenge. They will have just thought it was fear or determination.

If it can be somehow engineered for Ross to take down Harry by sacrificing himself, that would be perfect. Revenge most sweet, going out in full glory, and Jaz can still win.

I don't know how he could do it, though.

Apologies if this has already been discussed but did other people feel uncomfortable with the task in the church? It felt really inappropriate to me and I'm not religious at all

Yes, agreed, and I'm an atheist. They would never in a thousand years have set a game in a mosque or a synagogue. What makes the C. of E. less deserving of respect?

Apart from that, I'm loving this series - it's the best one so far.

I am assuming that the church is deconsecrated. Otherwise I agree that it is inappropriate.

It feels like suspicion is growing around Harry, and his shield stunt could easily backfire. Jaz/Evie/Zack are already suspicious of Harry so if they were heading in that direction at the next banishment, all Ross and Andrew need to do is join in and Harry's gone. Ross and Andrew don't even need to form an alliance with the Jaz group (just as well, as Jaz has voted for Andrew a couple of times, and might be holding a grudge against Ross for voting for him on the night Paul went).

As an aside on Uncloaked Charlotte said that Jasmine used the word ‘convoluted’ and commented on it being a fancy word and everyone one agreed. It’s a word I use regularly, is it that unusual?

That surprised me as well. I definitely wouldn’t have considered it an unusual word.

Convoluted is a pretty standard term used regularly in relation to plot-lines, it wouldn’t have stood out conversationally to me.

One thing that does bug me is the declarations of love to the other contestants as they leave, it makes me shout ‘no you don't’ at the tv!!

They could do...they all seem to stay friends afterwards. It must be a very bonding experience.

If it has been deconsecrated, then no problem. If it is still a consecrated place of worship, they would have had to obtain permission from the Church, possibly smoothed by a considerable donation to building maintenance funds.
In any case, if it is in Scotland, it isn't C of E.

To be honest (and as a Christian) I'm slightly laissez faire about that, and far more bothered about animal welfare in the last challenge. There was no need for those toads to be there.

I thought the churches were studio sets. I know we see the outside of them but I thought the interiors were mock ups.

@NonPlayerCharacter like each other maybe, tolerate, admire, I could understand but LOVE you all - nope!

That's exactly what I said, theres no way they'd do a task in any other place of worship.

I hate the live animal abuse as well, quite shocked Claudia goes along with that. How the bbc can produce shows like Planet Earth and then causally use toads (a protected and endangered species) for entertainment is 🤯🤯🤯

Im not really sure I get the love for the show but will stick with it incase I'm missing something. Everyone I know is obsessed with it.

Harry is so astute I wouldn't be surprised if he guessed Ross's secret. I hope he does. What a player he's been, win or not.

Churches can make good money out of renting space to film and TV shoots. One cathedral made a load from Harry Potter.

I agree about the traitors being mainly male this year. But Miles and Ash were people of colour I think they generally get a diverse cast to be honest.

Harry told Zack jaz and mollie he had a shield.

So if they assume he was targeted and survived that must make traitors either Ross Andrew jazmin or Evie. Ie throwing heat on 2 of the traitors.

This is a really good point @burnoutbabe ! I hadn’t thought beyond him trying to provide an explanation for why he still hasn’t been murdered, but this adds another dimension. Can he really be that devious?

I am so loving this.
I think Harry has made a mistake in mentioning to Jaz and Zac that he had the shield because if he was a faithful how could he know that they are not traitors . A true faithful wouldn't tell anyone .

See above. It’s not a mistake, it’s bloody brilliant!

Thank you for these threads!

I'm wondering if someone will comment on the resemblance of Ross to Diane.

Since she was murdered I can't help but see the resemblance between the two of them, more so than beforehand, particularly around the eyes. And sometimes I hear a similarity in the way they both speak.

Then again, as viewers we are in the know and I'm probably looking for the similarities because of that.

It would be interesting though if someone did say something!