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She doesn't eat any solids and refuses being fed and the bottle so it's boob or nothing. She lasts 3-4 hrs but he's too scared

Ha yes bit like that Zombie with DH!

Ugh. Here we go for another bad night. Fourth waking. Why won't she settle!!! I know people talk of gentle sleep training but I genuinely don't think that will work for my DD. Shush pat enrages her. Rocking her enrages her. Only feeding works and I'm so fucking sick of it! How the hell am I ever going to manage to night wean?!

I think we might need to do controlled crying. I just can't think what else will work.

I'm going to have to bring her in with me...again. Can't imagine what a night to myself in a bed with no one else in it would feel like. Just...bliss.

She's never going to sleep through is she?

Crap night here too. Lost count of how many wakings. He just lies there crying now, he used to stand up. I can't help thinking his consultants missed something and there's a reason for him doing it

Crap night here too. Little man has been throwing up basically everything he eats. Been wide awake for hrs now... work at 6 am is coming way to fast. :. (

I'm in for another bad one

Ds has woke up loads after a day of no naps.

Same zombie but DD has had 3 naps only 45 min each mind. I cant see this ever getting better - fed up!

Sorry to hear about all the rubbish nights. Why do we have to suffer so much!

Another shit one here. I'm so so tired, but every time I drift off it's 'waaah!' Bringing her in with me even though I just want my fucking bed to myself.

I am such a failure with the sleep. I bet if she was with another family, she'd sleep better.

I am so utterly sick of breastfeeding. I'd give anything for her to just take a bottle.

Sorry for all the swears. Just feeling incredibly angry and frustrated. I know people recommend just accepting the situation. But I struggle with that when I'm so exhausted I could just die.

How was work Halla?

Hi ladies - can I join you?! DS is 6wks so I'm not expecting miracles but it feels like nobody else in the world is awake at this time of night so desperate for company!

He's currently grunting/wriggling/whinging in his [warmed] moses basket for about the eighteenth time tonight which gives me about 20seconds before he's screaming again.

He fell asleep after BF 2hrs ago - then screamed when I slowly moved my hand to scratch my head (God forbid). Screams when I put him down even if he's been asleep on me for an hour. I've let him sleep on my chest out of desperation a few times - bit frightened of co-sleeping.

So I sleep from 9.30pm-midnight every day whilst DH has him - then that's it. No more sleep.

Dreading picking him up as boob is the only thing that calms him but earlier this eve he yanked his head back whilst BF and felt like he ripped my nipple off. The other must be practically empty.

Don't know how I'm going to keep this up! I am so desperate to just lie down and sleep..

My sil is gone into labour and I'm in their house as they have a 1 year old. Can't nod off. Excited but nervous about the 1 year old waking and finding me instead of his parents

Purple I think---- everyone on this thread is doing brilliantly. I have often thought that I bet ds would sleep if he was it another family

Tangerine 6 weeks is a difficult time, my ds was feeding at least every 45 mins round the clock at that age. Hopefully you will see an improvement in the sleep soon!

Good luck to sil wheeler!!

Well we had an awful night. I feel like my head is about to explode im so tired. I'd just got him to sleep for the millionth time at stupid o clock and then there was the strangest noise coming from outside which caused the dog to bark which then woke ds straight back up. Personally I think it was aliens, they came to abduct me as part of some experiment on how people can survive on such little sleep, but I think they saw I was too busy and gave up. They probably came to see if they can catch one of you lot during your 5 mins of shut eye instead

Baby girl this mornING. All well

zombie - i know there is a cost involved but worth taking DS to the osteopath? Worth ruling out discomfort? Or could the gp refer you?

tangerine - early days are tough. Just keep plodding on and get any sleep when you can. My DS1 slept on our chest for the first 12 weeks. It was the only way to get any sleep.

purple - funny how we were on the overdue thread with our babies... I didn't think we'd still be talking about lack of sleep 8 months on!!! I've got a big birthday coming up and I naively thought I'd have been having months of sleeping through by the time it came round. To be fair sleep has improved but some full nights would be lovely as would not breastfeeding and being able to eat dairy!! DH has gone away for the weekend so I'm home alone with my 2 boys. Sigh. I will be drinking wine the second they are both in bed!

Wheeler, wicked news

Star can you get it through nhs? I will speak to the dr on Monday as I'm not very happy with the sleep person.

I'm not sure zombie.... probably tho.imagine you might have to wait ages for an appt. Probably best to see someone who specialises in babies. I paid 40 quid for my DS to see a cranial osteopath for an hr. If you go for one appt then you can decide whether to carry on based on what they say? I'd be tempted if I were you... x

No naps here today apart from 30 mins early morning. Ds is way past tired. Couldn't get him to nap at all and even though he's exhausted I have been trying for the last hour to get him to sleep. He's not having any of it.

Have tried today cutting out soya to see if that makes any difference. He has been farting so much and it stinks!

Hi,

I've been following you guys since the last thread. Finally got the gumption to join in. I'm not sure if my boy is a shit sleeper or not. Sometimes he manages 1 hr. Sometimes 6. But you all give me hope! But all I know is, it's one. I leave him. Sometimes he's pissed off

Welcome Maud! How old is your DS?

Here we go again for another bad night. You know, I really thought sleep would generally - even if gradually - improve. It feels like we're going backwards. I just don't know what what's going on with her. She wakes and cries in her cot...wakes and cries if she's in with me. It breaks my heart because she's so obviously feeling scared and insecure. During the day she's such a happy baby! So what am I getting wrong about the night times?

I really don't want to be co sleeping. I'm so worried that it's dangerous for her. I just genuinely don't know where to go from here. I thought I could just wait it out but I don't think it's going to improve without me doing something. But what??

Maybe we're hitting the 9 month regression early? We hit the 4 month one ahead of schedule yay hard to tell really!

Please someone just stroke my hair and tell me it won't always be like this? Things feel rather hopeless this week...

Hello maud!

Purple ds is exactly the same. strokes your hair

h saw to him on his last wake up which meant a wide awake ds for a good 2 hours. Just managed to get him to sleep and he has woke up crying again. Feel pretty shit as I have just got a mega cold and keep going sweaty then cold, ds in his moments of awakeness reached out and smashed my picture of dd on the floor and I told h to stop fucking playing with ds in the middle of the night cus it was winding him up so I got told I'm just a nasty person. Nice.

He just will not sleep at all

Oh no Zombie :( so sorry to hear that. Men just don't get it. They really don't.

Worst night for a while here. After barely settling, DD awake for the day at 430. How the fuck can she need so little sleep?? There's obvs something wrong that I just am too stupid to figure out. Anyone else would know.

Just lost my temper, screamed at DD and now DH has her :( I'm the worst mum in the world. Giving serious though to just leaving layer on. I truly think DD would be better off without me. She'd sleep better for a start.

DH told me to get some sleep but how csn I when all I can is her crying next door??

Oh purple I hate to admit it but I have lost my temper a few times too, lack of sleep does crazy crazy things to your body. You are most definitely not the worst mom, your great. You have to be pretty fucking good to have made it this far on no sleep without going bat shit crazy.

Can you get h to take her on a walk or something? Just so you can have a bit of time to yourself to rest/nap?

Well we had a shocking night last night. Managed to get ds down for a kip this morning and he woke up screaming the place down boiling hot. I stripped him off and he had a temp of 38.9. Gave him calpol and its gone down again now. Feel so sorry for him.

Dd has started to want to sleep on me all night again. She's been ill and I need sleep so it's difficult not to just go with it. I think I'll give it another 3 nights and then I'll have to summon the energy to get her back in her cot a bit more

How are you all today?

Please don't any of you think it's your fault that your babies don't sleep. Ds1 sleeps through anything I mean literally anything, it's a running joke with us that we built furniture in his room once while he was asleep. Ds2 wakes up if a floorboard creaks.

It's understandable that you might lose your temper. It's gets so frustrating with the constant waking, crying, then not knowing what to do.

Purple one thing I've just thought, I think you mentioned you like to get out and about quite a bit which is completely understandable. Would it be worth trying the opposite for a week to try to get her napping in the cot during the day? Might you be able to also catch a nap during the day?

I ask as I only seem to be able to get ds to have a decent daytime sleep at home. Actually ds best nights have been after a good afternoon sleep and an afternoon walk.

Is anyone else dreading the light mornings? I'm looking forward to Spring but worried the light mornings will mean an even more sleepless baby.