Nothing wrong with change - but please don't change Mumsnet TOO much!

[Bobbins]

Because I love it as it is.

Of course ther is always room for a little improvement BUT it works very well for me as is.

No, I'm flouncing off. I insist. I'm curious whether anyone will miss me and post a missing person's alert.

Pah! I'm fed up with the lot of you! I'm off.

lil you had a kick/jibe at m2t because you don`t agree with "our" threads,so what goes around comes around

lil i understand what you said although i didnt necessarily agree, if for example you had named me - i would have thought fair enough - will just put you straight on the fact that i didnt start all the threads but can see your point of view

M2T has a lot of support - so much so i feel obliged to stick up for lil as i didnt read her post as venomous.

tigger told lil to take a chill, well i think same could be said of you all.

M2T you do air on the side of the dramatic in this thread which isnt particularly always to my taste and infact all this "everyones calling me names - am i supposed to be upset about something else..get a petition up againstme " crap is bollox. if you were my daughter i would smack you for being silly and send you to bed. but then if we all agreed each other all the time it would be v. dull

scummy doesnt need defending but am going to do it anyway. like rhuby and WWW they are very elequant posters, well written, tastefull, witty. offensive - never.

i dont like the chat threads - i dont read them - i dont need an "x" at the beginning to make them go to the end as my mouse is as quick and i have a page down button.

this is my opinion - it was not written with venom. mumsnet is wonderful as we can all air our different views - it is this which enables us to give advice and opinions and to help each other, it is this which makes for such stimulating discusion threads.

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Well said Custy! You just summed up everything I had been thinking while reading this thread...it was blooming exhausting!

Sorry if I offended you on another thread M2T, when I said to STOP SHOUTING all the time! It was meant light-heartedly, and as a sly dig at your tendency to react to other people's comments. I hope that you know that I would never have said it maliciously. (Having said that, you have probably not even seen it, and I'll now wish I had kept my big mouth shut )

Going back to Bobbins' original comment - hear hear...although some more smilies would be lovely.

Oy Lil, i never said you was a witch hunter, you said that not me. Talk about reading between the lines

Hear hear Custy. You said what I wanted to write but couldn't be bothered too!

Maybe a separate section for pure chat would be a good thing? We have quite a little community going in our special needs section now- a chat one would be good for people who just want to chat.

Now please tell me I haven't offended anyone?

Agree I think Custardo sums it up!

Perhaps a separate section for chat would be a good idea, I am not against these threads and have enjoyed them personally in the past I just haven't felt able to devote the time to them recently.

I quite like the fact the the fun stuff and the serious is jumbled together. I means thtat I can respond to something serious then bob in for a 'drink' or a 'chat' at the fun ones. Surely one of the points of this site is to be a place for mums (to bes, and dads) can learn from one another and to talk to people in similar circumstances. And, part of that must be just relaxing and having a it of a lark.

What I do hate though is when people have to be personal and start criticising and having a go.

I have just got up and caught up with this thread .... and am now very sad.
This is the second time that M2T has been singled out and I don't think it is fair. She has been told in the past to lighten up in threads that she felt strongly about and now she is being told that she having too much fun.... strewth, the poor girl can't win....
When I took part in the party thread I really enjoyed it ... but deep down I knew that at some point it would come back and bite us in the bum. The sad thing was that I sat here typing away with a cup of tea next to me and not one drop of alcohol anywhere .... but it made me laugh and it was what I needed ....
I, like bobsmum, live miles away from my family and friends (12,000 to be exact) and although I knew of mumsnets existence since DS was born I only started posting after I moved to NZ ...
I love the live chat ... I can't phone my family in the UK all the time to have constant chats as it costs so much money.... Mumsnet is sort of family for me in a way now and I would hate the live chats to go away.
I love checking all the threads but I only post if I have something to say ... and to give my support to someone who is having a hard time at the moment even if I can't give advice.

What I want to say, like others did, is 'Don't read them if you are not interested or you don't think it is your cup of tea.'

I like everyone on this website ... even those whose opinions I don't agree with ...

And yes... I am very guilty of putting in lots of full stops in all my posts .... but I do that as it feels to me that I am 'talking' with real pauses .... IFYKWIM!!

Please stop arguing girls ... it is too upsetting XXXXXXX Ghosty

I certainly don't want Mumsnet to turn into one of those sites where someone makes a chatty comment to someone else that is slightly off the subject and a big voice from above comes in and says "that's off topic, take it to such and such to discuss it".

I just want to say I agree with Bobsmum and Nutjob. I do contribute to the chatty threads because after a long day with the kids - as a single mum with no-one else to talk to in the evenings - I like a giggle. It's a bit of fun. Can't we just live and let live? As others have pointed out - you can't please all of the people all of the time - there are plenty of threads which don't interest me - I would never dream of asking for them to be removed.

I'm coming to join you for a drink M2T.

Thanks again for the people who have stuck up for me.

With all due respect Custardo you haven't been sinlged out twice and you certainly don't know what it's like to be on the recieving end of all this and you definitely don't know my personality so really have no right to comment on how this makes me feel. It trully is upsetting for me and if I was your daughter and came to you saying I felt like I was being bullied, would you really slap me and send me to bed. I'm not your daughter thankfully, but if I was I'd slap you back.

There that's my final post before going on holiday.

Mumsnet will probably have exploded by the time I get back as the natural progression of it seems too inappropriate and it may be taken off the net.

Have a lovely weekend folks.

PS: Look everyone, a whole post without a f*cking exclamation mark. Happy now?

I just thought an "anyone chatting?" section as well might make it easier for people who wanted to chat. It might increase their sense of community in the way that the Special Needs section has a nice homely feel about it.

It would also make it easier to scan the "other topics" bit- not that there's anything wrong with threads turning chatty. I'm a master at hijacking threads and sending them off topic.

So what you're saying is that no one cares about the Yurt idea. I thought it was good. Of course, I'm not sure anyone is reading this post. I could sit here and do a naked dance and, if you'd look, you'd care. You'd be all like, what is that fat lady doing taking off her underpants? Don't let her do that. OH MY GOD NO!!!!!!

But really, no one's up for a Yurt topic. (Learned my lesson by writing the dirty limerick... ask for a point to be dismissed, I'm your gal.)

JJ - get dressed, it's all too much.

I liked the Yurt. In fact so does ds1. At bedtime he appeared with a photo saying "baham bahmam" and heavens above it was a llama.

Nice dancing btw.

Hey HEY...!! You know I really am getting upset myself at this sniping. And frankly it IS nastiness. just re-read the conversation. If we were in a public place together, there'd be bitch slapping, and hair pulling by now...

And the weird thing is that I see several names again and again on this site, and I really thought you ALL participated in ALL the threads, and were ALL mates... I know we can't agree on everything, but surely the fact we have to type down our responses means we have to think more carefully about what we say - and that's what makes these comments more hurtful. They are not just said in the heat of the moment - they are typed in, re-read, checked and then posted. Hmmm. If not, then take a moment to think about your postings before hitting the button.

I always think that people who say "no offence but..." KNOW that their comments will cause offence. The light hearted ironic comments, followed by smilies, we all can tell are friendly banter.

I love mumsnet, but think I have seen a sight too much of this worrying argumentative business lately. I don't think anyone should stop posting their opinions, regardless of "contentiousness" however, we really need to just state our opinions and not be so personal.

During my early days of posting, I nearly didn't come back again after being called a child abuser on a smoking thread, when I thought I was posting honestly, for the benefit of anyone reading. But then I thought - "whatever" - cause I know that noone is faultless.

And I hate it when virtual posters get upset because (as I read recently) "I was upset...felt you were insensitive...You don't know me, you don't know my situation" Well tha'ts stating the obvious, but please don't hold it against someone to not know what sort of day/life/whatever you are going through.

Hip Hip Hurrah for mumsnet, and the break it brings to my lonely evenings without DH working abroad - breastfeeding, bereavement, feeding, sleeping, yurt, mumsarms, party threads and all!

My apologies for the blethering...

Firstly, come on girlies - this is getting dull as dishwater.

Secondly, there is a way to set up a "Mumsnet" chat room - independently of Mumsnet - via Microsoft Groups. I know of a couple of sites that have done it - but I'm fxxxxd if I know how. Just went on to MSN Groups to see if there was info, but can't find it at present. Basically, I think a couple of people have to set it up and from that point it's by invitation only. So anyone who wants to join has to get permission from the founders, via microsoft. That way you stop the loons of this world just happening across your chat room. Might be a nice idea for those who would like to chat live.

I really don't see the problem here - you can decide whether you want to join a thread or not. Initially I didn't join in the chat threads because I didn't think I had a sense of humour or anything to contribute. I posted a couple of times then ran away I felt quite bold at having done so. I enjoyed reading the posts from those who had an active sense of humour. Come on everybody, lighten up. Live and let live!!!!!!!!!!!!!

erm.......nice!

...." and the oscar for best actress goes to..."

btw - i sincerely hope you and yours have a lovely holiday

Custardo - no you don't. So don't bother.

Look Mum2Toby, I'm sorry about mentioning the punctuation. It's obviously upset you and I am not happy about that- I evidently didn't achieve the jokey tone I was aiming for.

The real point I was trying to make in that post was that what people don't like on an open access internet forum- as long as it is within the law or rules of the site, not defending pervy Sonnnia here- is tough luck. The only options are to ignore the posts they aren't interested in or, if they really feel that these dominate the site to the point of tedium, leave.

Either way, NOT YOUR PROBLEM!!!!!! You are the one who's happy with the site, likes chatting- seize the power that gives you. If I was you I would be going "Tough luck, snotty punctuation hater!!!!!! Tough luck, boring chat thread shunner!!!!!! Tough luck, snob!! Tough luck, idiot! Tough luck, nasty fun avoider!!! ner ner ner ner ner! I win! I win! I win!" and posting on every thread with loads of punctuation and chat and advice and jokes and/or whatever you want. Instead you are cringing and crying when you should be preparing to have a fantastic holiday- it's the internet babe. Please don't let it make you feel like shite.

I knew you were joking ScummyMummy!