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Nothing wrong with change - but please don't change Mumsnet TOO much!

172 replies

Bobbins · 13/05/2003 22:09

Because I love it as it is.

Of course ther is always room for a little improvement BUT it works very well for me as is.

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StripyMouse · 16/05/2003 08:38

Blimey - I have just read this thread for the first time from start to finish and it confirms what I always thought of mums - the only thing we all have in common is that we are mums.

Just to add my "calm and collected" tuppence worth:

A lot of comments suggest the "if you dont like it, dont read it option" - very true if only in context to choosing to read or avoid serious or lighthearted threads as the titles are often fairly indicative.
However,when individuals start to become offensive and personal then the individuals right to their own opinion is starting to become a little bit more complicated and it is only human nature that people who strongly disagree with these offensive comments feel the need to chip in - after all no one wants to feel that by ignoring them we are passively allowing them to get away with it . If we all started to come up with comments that specifically named individuals in a negative and potentially hurtful way (even if we really believed in what we were writing) can you imagine what mumsnet would descend into?????? (few extra ones there for those of you who care about such things......) virtual hair pulling and cat fighting would reach new heights.

I think we need to remember that we are all adults and need to show a little bit more respect and thought for others ideas and opinions. If you dislike the frivolous nature of a thread - dont slag it off, leave it alone for those who are enjoying it just in the same way you wouldn?t barge into a deeply serious conversation about miscarriage and tell everyone to lighten up a bit - both are inappropriate to comment on as it is unnecessary and likely to offend.

When involved in a thread that is discussing a topic with more than one angle or opinion - why can?t it be seen as just that? - a discussion of different ideas and opinions in a positive way. Most people who resort to personal attacks about others views seem to do it because they dont have the language skills/knowledge/intelligence/maturity to put their point across in a more reasoned and less personal way - just like a stroppy teenager would argue their point about bad language with a throw away comment about wishing they had never been born or that their parents would drop down dead...based on same flawed human reaction and one that too many musnetters have been guilty of in the past (sorry, it is true and you all know it).

What I am trying to say is that mumsnet will be a better place if throwaway nasty comments (whether from having a bad day or just out of frustration at some elses point of view) are thought and not written. Oh - and if you do "slip" into the rather undesirable world of nasty or personal comments then expect a lot of people to shoot you down. Defending our own when under attack (regardless of circumstances) is what mums do best.
Right, enough said, lets all go to our respective lighthearted or serious corners and PLAY NICELY (no more tears).

Ghosty · 16/05/2003 08:40

Big hand for StripyMouse ... well said ...

StripyMouse · 16/05/2003 08:42

ps - MumToby - I think your comments are fantabadozy and the light hearted ones rarely fail to make me laugh even if i have forgotten to take my happy pills. Dont you dare change - stay exactly as you are as we need people like you around to cheer us up.

bouncy · 16/05/2003 08:59

I do not post of the live threads, but do very much enjoy reading them (wish I was as witty).
Please leave them on the site, its a giggle.

scoobysnax · 16/05/2003 09:50

Lil - you have an idea of how to make Mumsnet perfect for yourself by keeping it serious and intelligent.
I have my own ideas - personally I think this is no place for all the religious stuff which I find wacko.
Isn't there room and indeed a place for everyone, though?
If you feel the need to censor posts according to your own rules, the answer might be to setup your own website, or even, if your views are shared by many, a new Topic, "Serious only section (SOS!)".
If you had your own website, I would visit it, but I would also visit Mumsnet.
Now I hope that I haven't offended you, because I think you are cool for trying to defend and maintain some of the great things about Mumsnet. It's just that Mumsnet is different things to different people.

Tortington · 16/05/2003 10:36

i actually did mean it and you were very nasty

i expressed a point of view with out being nasty

you win M2T

i dont care for nastyness

tigermoth · 16/05/2003 11:10

I am not clear on this : Do the people who like having live chats here object for any reason to having a live chat thread? ie for pub quiz, mums arms and yurt? Does anyone have a problem with this? Isn't that the key issue at stake here?

I don't mean transplanting light hearted threads with a factual/advice element like 'names you don't dare call your children' etc They would stay were they are.

Custardo, lil, don't feel bad, please.

Jimjams · 16/05/2003 11:13

I think I'm as confused as you tigermoth. I thought that would be a good idea!

ScummyMummy · 16/05/2003 11:47

Custy- you so rule and you so mustn't get upset about this. I suspect Mum2Toby was feeling a bit got at generally- she posted earlier about not being sure what was serious and what was lighthearted. I think I probably contributed to her feeling that way and now wish that I had not posted on this thread at all, though I was very grateful to you and Bozza for defending me and seeming to "get" what I was trying to say. Thank you both.
Agree with T'moth and Jimjams that a "chat" section of the board might be a good idea.

SoupDragon · 16/05/2003 13:18

I suggested moving them to a Live Chat section ages ago (well, 11:54:18 AM yesterday but it seems ages ago) but no one noticed. Pout sulk kick wall despondantly.

ScummyMummy · 16/05/2003 13:23

you sulky old dragon you!

Tigger2 · 16/05/2003 13:25

Ladies, ladies, None of this handbags at dawn pleeeeeeeeeeease. I have a terrible hangover after the Whyte and MacKay at the Mums Arms last night, think it was the singing though! or it could have been the food!

Anyways I am having a HUSBAND FREE DAY!!!!!!, he has gone of to Balmoral Show in Belfast, I think that the crossing will have been a bit vomitty!!

Oh I found a wonderful Mug today (no not a man!!) it says "I am woman, I am Invincible, I am Tired", excellent

tigermoth · 16/05/2003 13:26

I know you did, sd. And others did too. Just wondered if anyone has any objections to what IMO is a good idea.

Bobsmum · 16/05/2003 13:33

I'm too slow a typer to be in a live chat area.
My posts would never get there in time - I have a hard enough job trying to keep up with dh on instant messenger thingy - and he's only one person.
My posts cross here as it is and there's usually at least 2/3 mins b/w posts. Plus it gives me time to at least try to be interesting.
Can we have a chat area for witty touch typists glued to their keyboards at work and an other chat area for sahms who might have to leave the keyboard for at least a minute or so to - oh I don't know - change a nappy or even feed a sprog?

Marina · 16/05/2003 13:42

Like the live chat area idea too, SoupDragon and other suggesters.
Also like the sound of Tigger's mug

Girly · 16/05/2003 13:43

Another vote for a chatroom.

scoobysnax · 16/05/2003 14:04

Another vote from me...

SoupDragon · 16/05/2003 14:05

I wouldn't visit a chat room, I like the way the chatty threads work.

mammya · 16/05/2003 21:51

I don't mind the chatty threads, I read them when I'm in the mood/have got time, although don't post on them as I don't feel witty enough, but like SoupDragon, I don't think I would visit a chatroom.
My request is: can we have a "back to top" button at the bottom of pages?
Other than that, I like mumsnet as it is, don't change it too much!

Clarinet60 · 16/05/2003 22:18

Well, I've just found this thread.
BLIMEY!!!!!!!!!
Yes, I am, as you all know, quite a punctuation-guzzler myself.
Poor Mum2Toby. I hope she comes back because I really enjoy her posts.
You knit-picking load of ~#'s, you

ks · 16/05/2003 22:19

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anais · 16/05/2003 22:33

I'm with Soupy, I like the chattt threads as they are - I don't want a chatroom. Why should we be booted off to another area of the site?

I just don't get what all this is about. If people weren't interested in the chatty threads they would just die. The fact that they go on means that people want them. Can't we just leave it at that? It has been said time and time again that one of Mumsnet's greatest strengths is its diversity, so why are we trying to undermine that?

Jimjams · 16/05/2003 22:37

I;m not sure anyone is anais. I think we're just suggeting another section for pure mumsarms type chat. Well at least that's all I was suggesting. It would be cozy and comfortable for the chatters, and the other subjects area would be shorter.

maryz · 16/05/2003 23:07

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bettys · 16/05/2003 23:14

I agree maryz - it needn't be a chat room but another topic title so that live chat needn't be part of Other Subjects.

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