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FWR split continued

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RebeccaMumsnet · 29/06/2012 17:11

We have decided to start a new thread about this as the other thread was near capacity and taking a while to load.

Here is Justine's post from earlier on

We can give a Radical Feminism topic a go if that's what people want and see if it works. Obviously we need to be crystal clear that no one is obliged to post in one particular place and no one should feel excluded from any topic but we could test it out, and see if it helps resolve tensions. We'll do that in the next few days.

There are a couple of other things to think about as well.

First, those who come onto FWR to derail and inflame. We acknowledge that we have been too slow in the past to spot these posters for what they were. We're sorry about that and hope we're a lot quicker at dealing with them now. We're all for opinions but we do draw the line at posters whose only obvious intent is to goad.

And secondly, this idea that FWR can be an unwelcoming place to those who aren't following the 'party line'. Judging by posts on recent threads and by our inbox this is a view of a significant number of Mumsnetters and obviously that's not a healthy situation. Mumsnet is a place for discussion and for diverse opinion and it's the exchange of ideas and tolerance of differing opinions that makes it the board it is.

We do hope threads like this help to clear the air a bit and remind everyone that, whatever the differences of opinion, the FWR board will only ever be the stimulating, thought-provoking, enriching place we'd all like it to be if people feel that they can express themselves without being jumped on.

Please do continue to let us know your thoughts.

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EclecticShock · 29/06/2012 23:50

"Add message | Report | Message poster AyeRobot Fri 29-Jun-12 23:40:47
So explore, ES. Stop having digs. Stop making sweeping generalisations about people because they have a certain view about one topic. Heck, I bet you have me down as a rad fem. I don't even know if I am because I'm still figuring this stuff out. Let the discussion run free and stop the snideyness and the labelling. It's in your hands."

This post has gone way over my head, I think we must be misunderstanding each other.

AyeRobot · 29/06/2012 23:50

Push for the Equalist board, then, ES. I think that might be less frustrating for you.

yellowraincoat · 29/06/2012 23:51

I'm not pro porn, but I wouldn't care if there was a separate board for improper feminists. Whatever, really.

Has anyone said radical feminists need to go from FWR? Because I think if you read back this thread and the other, it's really not the case.

EclecticShock · 29/06/2012 23:52

This is the point of this thread, I was not meanin to cause offence... Merely stating my opinion, which is obviously not possible when people are so defensive.

Alameda · 29/06/2012 23:53

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Himalaya · 29/06/2012 23:54

Not keen on the "equalist" board idea ES, AYE.... It seems to indicate that wanting equal rights for women is not a feminist position?...or am I misreading that?

EclecticShock · 29/06/2012 23:54

That should have said not ONLY white men... Typo.

dittany · 29/06/2012 23:55

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AyeRobot · 29/06/2012 23:56

ES, you know how you read my long post and liked it. Then pulled out one bit to focus on? That's the FWR board in a nutshell as it stands. Loads there to get your teeth into to make some forward progress. But no, you focussed on what you didn't like. Why?

HmmThinkingAboutIt · 29/06/2012 23:56

I'm starting to wonder if I'm reading the same thread as some other people.

JustineMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 29-Jun-12 17:49:34
Besides, I really don't see how creating a topic is fencing anyone off and have been at pains to say that there are no fences! But if that's not the solution then tell us what you think is?

Just in case anyone missed it.

There's quite a lot of posts from non rad-fems saying they don't support the idea as it makes one group feel pushed out.

EclecticShock · 29/06/2012 23:56

See what happens when you post an alternative viewpoint... Seriously, that's not discussion and alameda as usual you're being extremely rude.

Prolesworth · 29/06/2012 23:57

Yes there is now a separate RF board Alameda. MNHQ set it up tonight in response to Wickety's request even though a load of RFs posted saying it was a bad idea. Really can't work out why MNHQ thought that was a good idea tbh.

Loved your post Aye.

WicketyPitch · 29/06/2012 23:57

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yellowraincoat · 29/06/2012 23:57

I'm not pro porn but I'm not massively against it in principle.

You don't have to be so defensive, dittany. I was giving my opinion.

EclecticShock · 29/06/2012 23:58

"Add message | Report | Message poster AyeRobot Fri 29-Jun-12 23:56:13
ES, you know how you read my long post and liked it. Then pulled out one bit to focus on? That's the FWR board in a nutshell as it stands. Loads there to get your teeth into to make some forward progress. But no, you focussed on what you didn't like. Why?"

Because that's what a discussion is... I agree with this...I question that... Seriously, you take that personally? No hope for PARD then.

dittany · 29/06/2012 23:58

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WicketyPitch · 29/06/2012 23:59

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EclecticShock · 30/06/2012 00:00

Alameda, you've requested to withdraw your post? Why was that?

dittany · 30/06/2012 00:00

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Alameda · 30/06/2012 00:01

but it will be trolled to death

which reminds me, thanks mnhq for getting tougher on that

yellowraincoat · 30/06/2012 00:01

So just don't use the topic if you don't want to?

MN aren't going to hold a gun to your head.

EclecticShock · 30/06/2012 00:01

Point is, some people don't want to change the status quo as it suits them fine. I think that's obvious to anyone following this discussion.

OliviaLMumsnet · 30/06/2012 00:02

@dittany

Or hitting report post on fellow feminists for that matter. Justine, you asked earlier why you were getting complaints. I'm sure some of them are sincere, but there's also a big troll hunting group on Facebook which coordinates reporting - descending on to threads to harass, and also likes to hit report post on posters they don't like. One of their tactics is to needle and when a person bites, go into mass report mode.

Mass report makes no difference to us fwiw.
One report or one hundred - we take each report on a case by case basis.

Justine has said and the rest of us at the Towers agree that we are open to suggestions and want to try and ensure that conversation is kept flowing as much as we can.

dittany · 30/06/2012 00:02

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OliviaLMumsnet · 30/06/2012 00:02

@Alameda

but it will be trolled to death

which reminds me, thanks mnhq for getting tougher on that

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