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Husband says it's over, wants custody of DD

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MollFlounders · 17/07/2009 11:12

I would really appreciate some thoughts on my situation. I've posted a few times recently about DH. There have been issues in the past but things have been particularly rocky since I went back to FT work 3 months ago (DD is now 9 months old). DH has always been quite selfish and inflexible (previous threads on this are here and here) and this has, for me, become more and more difficult to cope with since having to juggle a demanding job and of course DD. Things are at the point where counselling is required. I found a counselling group who will see us each separately and then together in a facilitated session.

So DH and I had yet another row yesterday morning. It was very trivial. I was hosting an event for some clients. DH managed to get his own last minute invitation to the same event (going as a client himself, of another host). I offered to give DH a lift in my work taxi, but on condition we operated on my timing seeing though I had to get there to meet my clients (DH is usually late to everything). DH was very pleased about the lift otherwise he was stuck with a long tube trip. We agreed, I thought, that we would leave the house asap but would absolutely be in the cab by 9am. I was up and ready, having also gotten DD up and ready for her day, by 8.30am. As it happened, my taxi arrived to collect me at 8.40am. DH had gotten up at 8am and proceeded to faff around the house getting himself ready in slow motion. I asked him a few times if it was possible to hurry things along a little as the cab was waiting downstairs with the meter ticking along. He just kept repeating in icy tones "we agreed we would leave at 9. We will leave at 9". So we left at 9.00am on the dot, with me standing around waiting for him in the meantime. In the cab, I expressed my frustration at his inflexibility and I said that I didn't feel it was normal to be so incredibly rigid. He basically said "if you want normal, you're with the wrong person. I'm not normal."

I didn't see DH again last night as he went out with a friend after the event and came home late. This morning, he was monosyllabic. I reminded him that he needed to call the counsellor for his separate session. DH said "there's no point going to a counsellor unless you tell me that your behaviour yesterday morning was totally unacceptable and will never be repeated again". Apparently I was relentless in my nagging and this is totally unacceptable and tantamount to treating him with contempt. After all, I know he hates being rushed in the mornings.

DH then asked me if I want custody (I know it's residence) of DD and I said absolutely. Asked him what he wants, he says he wants custody. She is 9 months old. We have a daily nanny but I do everything for DD outside of that. A family lawyer has told me that it seems clear that I'm the primary caregiver and that I could move out with her if the marriage ends. My main priority in all of this is DD's happiness and stability.

I guess I've got two questions. Does the situation with DH sound hopeless? I feel we're at the make or break point but I'd go through counselling if there was a chance of it working. But if he's saying counselling is pointless then can you make it work?? Other question: what do people do with residence and contact when it comes to small babies? How often would be reasonable for DH to see DD and how do you do this (e.g. him coming to my place)??

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Lemonylemon · 05/08/2009 11:00

Just wanted to add my continuing support for you. You can do it!

MollFlounders · 05/08/2009 18:01

Thanks again everyone, I am checking in here regularly to keep myself going. I slipped away from work today to drop some things at my new house. It's lovely and I can't believe I will be living there soon. My sister arrives tomorrow morning, very exciting!

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cheerfulvicky · 05/08/2009 19:17

It sounds really exciting - I'm a bit jealous
Great that you will have your sister there soon! Keep doing what you're doing, we're all rooting for you.

LittleMissMummy · 05/08/2009 21:38

Hi Moll, just a quick post to say your doing amazing, only a couple of days now. Cant wait to hear from you when you first move into your new home with DD. So glad your sister is going to be with you - thats what family is for.

Take care and keep strong xxx

Doha · 05/08/2009 21:47

When is your soon to be XDP actually going away? Are you going to have a few days to move.
Please please keep us up to date with yuor more. I'm sure lots of NMers would be willing to help if living nearby.

Say hi to your sister from us all .

You got a computer in your new home to keep in touch????

Blackduck · 05/08/2009 22:18

Hi Moll, will be off line for a couple of days as off to sit in a field in campervan (Big Chill) tomorrow, but just wanted to send unmumsnetlike (and even more unblackduckLike) hugs to you...will check in early next week and looking forward to hearing about the new home....(will be sending strong vibes from a field near Malvern)

MollFlounders · 06/08/2009 10:23

Hi everyone. Blackduck - thank you for the un-MN and un-BD hug! They are always the best ones. I hope the Big Chill is fab and that the rain holds off. Tomorrow is D-Day in the Flounders house so not long now. I've got removalists coming on the weekend and then have next week off work to get myself sorted. My internet access will be a bit patchy from Sunday onwards as it will take a while to get the connection on at my new place and I won't be going into work for a week. But I will let you know before I go and will keep on keeping you posted. Almost there now....

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expatinscotland · 06/08/2009 10:27

Moll, thanks for updating us. I know your family is supportive of you and that they have seen his behaviour over the past 7 years and know how best to support you and your DD.

So glad you have them around and your counsellor, too.

Best of luck to you!

nje3006 · 06/08/2009 10:55

Moll I have never posted to you before but I wanted you to know that I'm rooting for you and dd.

I have been where you are now but without a child. I got myself into counselling b/c I was unhappy w/my marriage. I am/was a very strong independent woman, I was the one others came to for help and support. I ran my own law firm, I was a kick-ass woman at work, at home my XH ran the show - without appearing to.

I completely lost myself. But eventually with the help of my lovely counsellor, my friends and especially my sister, I rented a place for myself, left and filed for divorce. XH started off saying he would do everything to get me back.

Once I left, I never wavered. I wanted to mention that to you in case it happens with you. I wavered for 6 months in counselling. 6 years later my counsellor and I are friends, she tells me I went in twice a week and one day I was leaving, the next I could make it work if only I tried hard enough.

Once I left, I never looked back. I never considered reconciliation. Lawyers are required to suggest conciliation services. I wouldn't consider it. I have never had a moments regret about leaving. My only regret if I have one is that it took me so long and I was in that relationship for way too long - 22 years.

When I left my sister and my family were so worried I would go back. There were only 2 people who knew I wasn't going back, one was me, the other was my counsellor.

My sister was terrified that XH would make promises for change and I would falter. He did and I didn't. Of course it helped that his promises changes didn't last.

A warning though, women in abusive relationships are more at risk of physical violence after they have left than before. I had been with my XH 22 years, he'd never hit me. 3 months after I left he assaulted me. I pressed on with the prosecution and he was convicted of assault. The risk is very real particularly with men for whom passive/aggressive control is so important as it sounds for your H. Protect yourself.

I wish you strength and support over the coming weeks and months. I wish you peace too but I think you will find that when you move into your new place. I am so glad you have your family there and particularly your sister flying in. Thank God. Like you I had never called on anyone for help in RL, I had a life long problem with that. I asked for help from whoever I needed it from. They all gave it willingly glad (they said) to have a chance to pay back to me. It transformed my relationship with my sister who til then had always been my "little" sister. She got tough and protective and stood by me all the time, driving to the other end of the country in the middle of the night to be with me in A&E when XH assaulted me. She rang me every day to check up on me, she was unfailing, I feel I can never repay her.

It was a long time ago but reading your long thread has brought so much of it back. I am astonished now to think I found leaving so hard. But I did. For many reasons, many of which I have worked through, some linger.

I found a new partner and we have been together 4 years. It's a miracle but I have found a wonderful man, I am truly blessed. I had some trust issues left over from XH, took a while to work those through but NP has been steadfast and unfailing - and I have remembered that I'm a pretty good catch myself!

Good luck to you Moll, you can and will do this. Hang tough, stay strong and feel the love and support of those around you - both real and virtual.

My thoughts and prayers are with you.

nje

MagNacarta · 06/08/2009 12:51

I just wanted to wish you the very best, I've been checking in on your thread for a little while now. Try to stay strong and lean on your family as much as you can, that's what they are there for.

Good luck for tomorrow.

lilacclaire · 06/08/2009 14:22

Moll, ive been following your thread from the start and remember a couple of your other threads as well, though may well have never posted.

I think you are totally doing the right thing and stay strong. You and your daughter will have much happier lives not living with this man.

There are good men out there, my dp would never get the chance to say hello to me first coming home from work, the kids are over him like a rash, it would never occur to either of us that this is not 'normal'.

You deserve kindness, understanding and compassion from a partner, not what this man gives.

Jux · 06/08/2009 15:04

Moll, good luck with everything. I'm thinking of lots. Keeping everything crossed for the w/e.

Jux · 06/08/2009 15:08

thinking of you lots

MrsPigeon · 06/08/2009 15:43

Moll I have read through this thread recently but not posted before. I just wanted to add my voices to others', to say that you seem to me to be a strong, intelligent, capable and loving woman, and your daughter is lucky to have you as a mother. You deserve to be treated with love and respect, and by doing what you are doing (moving out and so on), you are treating yourself with love and respect. Like many others on here I will be thinking of you tomorrow, and I am so impressed by your resolve and your strength. Good luck.

thesouthsbelle · 06/08/2009 19:59

good luck for tomorrow moll. Will e keeping everything crossed and thinking of you. hope it's as uneventful as it can be and you enjoy your first glass of wine in your home with your sister on fri/sat. x

Clayhead · 06/08/2009 21:20

Good luck for tomorrow

dollius · 06/08/2009 22:44

Good luck tomorrow Moll, we will all be thinking of you.
Let us know how you are when you get a chance.
Can your parents stay with you for a few days - just in case all hell breaks loose with DH after you go?

Chessiers · 07/08/2009 04:52

Hope the weekend goes well, Moll. If you start feeling shaky during the move, or after, find an internet cafe, or a friend with a computer, and pop on here for five minutes!

Will be thinking of you.

Buda · 07/08/2009 06:42

Hope all goes well for you Moll.

limonchik · 07/08/2009 06:45

Good luck Moll

cheerfulvicky · 07/08/2009 06:52

Yes, good luck from me too! Unmumsnetty hugs to you We're all here wishing you well.
x

Tortington · 07/08/2009 06:57

good luck

Lemonylemon · 07/08/2009 09:58

Good luck Moll!

ZZZenAgain · 07/08/2009 09:59

so D-Day today Moll. Fingers crossed for you that everything goes well.

MollFlounders · 07/08/2009 10:05

Thanks very much everyone. H has gone. I ended up telling him I was moving out before he left. He didn't really react. I feel very flat and down today but my family is with me and I'm seeing the counsellor again this afternoon. I think I'll just take it easy today and start the packing tomorrow. Not sure I can face it today. I really appreciate all your well wishes. Sorry to sound so glum.

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