Do women really rule out average height men, or is it online talk?

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My younger step brother who is 19 [I am male btw], told me that women only want to date much taller men, he's roughly the same height as me, 5'7 [5'9 in thicker soled trainers lol], and is very introvert and hasn't had any dating experience, he has a few friends and I have noticed girls in the past being nice to him/liking him when I have seen him socializing. I was aware of this height bias which shows up quite a lot online and on social media, even here on mumsnet I have seen dating related threads where many women appear to be very dismissive of dating shorter men [used to nose sometimes using my OHs old account ,she didn't mind ahaha]

Because of this, I have been noticing often when I am out in public the heights of men to see if this is true, and it very clearly isn't. Last weekend I went to a well known seaside town for the day, due to the weather it was packed so millions of people and I would say literally the amount of couples of all ages where the man was average/slightly shorter than average height was the majority, it very clearly isn't the case that most women are not attracted to men below 6ft, 5ft10 or whatever. I myself have also never had a huge issue dating in the past, I never even knew I was particularly short until seeing this height related stuff online, and where women are concerned my height has never been mentioned

Was curious if this is only me that's noticed this, I think it could be more of a gen z thing than millenial and above? I'm not sure, but it definitely doesn't seem to match up with what I have seen with my own eyes in real life, have tried to reassure step bro that his height is fine, I think his parents have too, but don't seem to be able to convince him

If Jackie should settle for what she can get, why can’t you?

Saw this on a meme and quite frankly no thank you 🤣 leave it as a meme

I clearly stated in my post that I don't understand where this height fixation now has come from due to witnessing on a near daily basis men under 6ft partnered up, as well as myself never having any issues, this whole post was based around my brothers situation, not mine. I don't have an incel loser mentality [if that's what you were implying], otherwise I would never have made this post in the first place, its my brother who I am concerned about going that route, not me

Suprised how long this thread has gone on for, whenever I check my emails I get a new notification about it...

I'm not too fussed but I'm only 5 ft 3 and a half! So any man over 5 ft 6 is OK for me really. My good friend of many years is 5 ft 9, and she said she could never be with a man unless he is over 6 ft 2. Pretty shallow pool of men then, seeing as only about 4% of men are as tall as that - or taller. (In the western world.) She said she would rather he was not good looking/borderline ugly, than short!

Personally, I like a man with a nice face. My DH has a nice face, and is not 'tall.' 5 ft 9 actually, but his height is tall compared to me. My grandfather was 5 ft 5 and never ever had a problem attracting the ladies! He was charismatic, good looking, and funny. Conversely, DH's father was 6 ft tall, and was awkward and shy. His mum was his first girlfriend, and he was shy around women. Being tall doesn't always equal being confident.

Agree about Prince too. Sexy attractive confident man who never had a problem getting attention from women. And he was 5 ft 2! Also Johnny Briggs (Mike Baldwin) a bit of a ladies man too and only 5 ft 5. His profile online says he was 5 ft 6 and a half, but he wasn't... Same as Tom Cruise, always popular with the ladies, but only 5 ft 5 and a half (and not 5 ft 7 as it says when you look it up.)

I don't know why these men lie (or maybe it's their agents) because they are still attractive and popular and no-one cares. Same reason famous women like about their dress size and weight I suppose. Like when Nicola Coughlan was in Bridgerton it was reported that she was a size 10. She was easily a 14. Why lie? People aren't daft.

I barely got any matches on one dating app, I changed my height to 6ft on a platform where you needed to state your height just to see what happened and it made no difference to the amount of matches I got. Used a different platform where height wasn't required and got loads of matches...go figure

In my experience I've found alternative women are often more lax about height

@Thatsthebottomline Sydney Sweeney! 😍 She's gorgeous! 😘

All the men I know over 6’2… aren’t lookers shall we say. It’s quite rare for a man to be both very tall and very handsome as the proportions go ‘off’. I think the best looking men are around the 5ft10-6 foot mark, as for whatever reason they always seem nicely in proportion then and not spindly. Good arms, nice chest/shoulders.

I guess nobody here will believe me but I know quite a few men with very above average looking girlfriends where the man in under 5’10. The common denominator is they’re very very funny, and relaxed, and charismatic. One is my brother in law - my sister is genuinely gorgeous (very conventionally pretty slim blonde type) and they’ve been together for 20 happy years and have kids. He’s one of those outgoing people you look forward to seeing as you know he’ll make you laugh.

The manner you replied to me was rude, that's all I'm saying on the matter

The context of my posts was based around my brothers situation, not mine, hence me using the word "girl", as the females in his peer group are girls

Very much not an Incel, three previous relationships and currently becoming quite serious with someone and don't hate women, so certainly not the kind of person to attach the term Incel too

I can fully believe that, very nice to hear

Not.for me personally. I dont particularly like a lot of make up or cleavage. Im sure she's very nice but can she beat me at Scrabble ?

Sydney Sweeney has her boobs hoisted round her ears in every single outfit so that nobody notices she has a plain face and she’s a terrible actress. I don’t get the hype

@CollectingAllTheACEs that's really unnecessary and unkind.

Ooooh, that's a bit harsh. She's very pretty I think, and so she shows her boobs off. She can hardly help it. She has big boobs - and they are natural. Also, I think she is a good actress. Your words are very harsh. Why such barbed and harsh comments about her? What do you have against her that you would be so mean about her?

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Probably because i no longet want.

MN is full of threads urging women not to settle. Its interesting to see thay men should

No woman should settle for Jacob Elordi himself if he's messaging other women, gambling the joint savings away and never empties the dishwasher or gets up with the baby.

Men don't have to settle, but for the love of God stop complaining about women having preferences and requirements online when you yourself also have some of your own.

Seems weird to be so fixated on height. When I was young and gorgeous and dating height wasn’t even on my radar. As long as he was the same height or taller that was fine with me. I like masculine men though short is fine but needs to also be charismatic interesting and ideally well built. Would have gone for a man like that a hundred times over a spindly skinny taller man.

But MN is full of women who claim their partners do all of these and more. Cheaters, wife beaters, layaboits, druggies, people who won't get a job, blokes that watch porn all day.

Really they are all loved for deeply flawed people they are.

I see you jumped out the way when you saw the point coming at you.

You made it clear that the idea of settling was something you found offensive, yet in the next post whined that Asda Jackie won’t do just that. Not sure why you’re whining though tbh, given that you don’t seem to like her enough to justify any ire towards her unwillingness to give you the chance that you apparently don’t even want.

No, you shouldn’t have to settle. Nor should women feel they have to in order to spare the feelings of men that think they’re owed a chance.

which is proof that they don't all go for the very tall millionaires.

But of course in this narrative you have created, women will go for tall millionaires but also any one else, jobless, porn addicts, wife beaters etc as long as they are not short.

Which is completely untrue.

I find shorter men far more attractive than tall men. I’m 5’7, the fittest men to me are those who are around my height.

I don't particularly care about the number, 6ft, but if I want someone taller than me, they will have to be at least 5'11.

And I don't know about other women, but when you've grown up being defined by your height, and being taller than the boys/ men around you, you tend to end up feeling less feminine. That shouldn't matter in the slightest, I know, but it does to me. Smaller men make me feel like a giantess, even though I'm quite slim.

Maybe if everyone stuck to no more than 3 inches either way, we'd all be happy.