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Heartbroken all over - will he be different with her?

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TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 14:36

Hi

I'm sure you will remember me. I was doing ok. My name is slightly different now as I think my last account was erased despite pleas to reinstate it. I am being totally visible about that - I'm the same person.

You may remember my Heartbroken post from last year. I have been in intensive and ongoing therapy over my ex, who I have been told by numerous therapists, is narcissistic and abusive and that the version of him that I fell for, wasn't actually real. This is the man who, without going over all the dreaded detail again, entered into a relationship with me, has the two ex wives and travels back and forward to Vietnam. His children have no relationship with him either, and have disowned him. I am now 50 and this man is 54.

For reference I absolutely adored this man, we weren't together very long and at the start it was all new exciting, thrilling lots of contact and intimacy. But it soon turned very sour and as we worked together, I had to move departments due to his childish and irregular behaviour. He began hiding from me in the toilets at work - for the one reason that I had borrowed his coffee cup - telling my colleagues and called a meeting with our boss in which he told me that our intimacy wasn't love making - it was f - and my boss did nothing. During one of his regular trips to Vietnam, I moved departments. On the odd occasions when I do see him now, he will deviate between complete ignorance, and joking. Just last week as he told me he was returning to Vietnam, he asked me if the bag I was carrying contained a 'sexual item' and asked was it a 'rubber vagina'. This from the man who once said I made him so uncomfortable that he had to hide in the toilets. He then proudly announced he was going to Vietnam this week.

As if that wasn't enough, he completely stuck the knife in by announcing, 'I have a girlfriend, she's 38, beautiful, and I love her, I'm happy. I know in my heart it's right'. He then took out a picture of her and thrust it in my face. He said they 'facetime every night'. He claims he is now a Buddhist and has quit smoking and drugs. He was on a lot of cocaine for years.

This was a week and a half ago and I have struggled ever since. My therapist maintains he is a narcissist but what is making it worse for me is the current rumour that he may be getting married to this woman. He has met her in person once. The photo has him with his head on her shoulder and she is on his knee, they are holding hands. He was in no way kind in how he chose to tell me.

I feel absolutely devastated. He was brutally cruel to me for the time I was with him, blowing hot and cold but always saying 'just give me time' and I believed him. He said I was his soulmate and wanted me to meet his family. He asked me to move into my Mum's room with him knowing she had only died a few years previous to that. Then he pulled the rug, with me struggling to understand since then (3 years ago) what I've done wrong.

I've tried to get help and am doing things like going to the gym and yoga. But this has really set me back to the point my therapist told me today that she is insistent that I ring my GP as my 'core scores' were through the roof. I feel exhausted, even walking the short distance to the bus stop, I'm on edge, I feel sick and the reason is I am desperately wondering why she seems to be getting the better version of him. I loved him with my whole heart, I was patient, supportive, understanding and kind. I don't know why he is throwing it in my face that he loves her and if he does marry her, to me, in my mind, it will sort of highlight that I was the problem all along. This would be his third marriage - his second to a Vietnamese woman. He is just moving on as if I didn't exist and I'm struggling so badly to heal. My own mind is frightening me as I feel so deeply and I feel like something is wrong with me? I spoke to a mutual friend who says he is like a child, always chasing after the next shiny thing but even that makes me wonder why I wasn't shiny enough to keep.

I'm sorry to contact you all again, but do you really think he could be different with her? When his own kids won't talk to him? What the hell is so special about Vietnam? His last wife was from there and dumped him when she got her citizenship to the UK.

Thanks again, for listening to me.

OP posts:
LughLongArm · 14/04/2026 15:15

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:08

It's not irrelevant at all, I think it says a lot about me and that's why I'm struggling. How can someone with a broken history of marriages estrangement from his kids and being really verbally and emotionally abusive to me, suddenly be nice?

Gently, it’s totally irrelevant. He’s no longer your boyfriend, or your abuser. You need to focus on yourself, not on what he does or doesn’t do in a relationship with someone else. Why is it so important to you that he behaves equally badly to a subsequent girlfriend?

And yes to moving jobs.

IHate · 14/04/2026 15:15

Idontjetwashthefucker · 14/04/2026 15:13

What's the point in posting again, you disagree with everyone. What do you want people to say?

She really likes talking about him and it’s unlikely that anyone in real life is still willing to listen. As it’s just the same stuff, over and over, for what is now years.

DistanceCall · 14/04/2026 15:18

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:08

Not helpful.

Actually it is. Because that is all you can (and should) do now.

What do you want from this thread, OP?

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:19

IHate · 14/04/2026 15:14

What help are you hoping to get from this thread that you haven’t got from your previous threads and your professional support?

This is above MN’s paygrade. Particularly as you don’t want to get better. You want an audience for your obsession.

I remember your previous threads. My chief reaction to this now is irritation. Nobody can help you if you refuse to help yourself.

No problem, thank you anyway. I came here to try to get help. I'm sorry it's easy for you to move on, I don't have any family or outside support aside from my counsellor, who today urged me to book an appointment with my GP. I am trying. I just wanted to see if this new information changed anything because I'm really confused.

I appreciate the replies, I'm very lonely and isolated and it has thrown me completely to hear he may be getting married as all the work I've done over the past several months has come undone in my mind.

Apologies for bothering you again, thanks again.

OP posts:
orangegato · 14/04/2026 15:21

Kindly your issues are more to do with you than this man or what he did. He has moved on, someone who made your life a misery, that is something to be celebrated.

He might have been abusive but you’re way too invested. You have to let go! How does whether he’s nice to her or not affect you?

kellygoeswest · 14/04/2026 15:22

I remember your previous posts and I'm sorry to hear you're still struggling. I think I remember from before that you had cat(s)? I hope they're doing well.

Sometimes in life we don't get the closure we want, or even deserve. No amount of continued speculating about his behaviour is going to change whatever choices he's making.

No one here will ever be able to give you an accurate insight on who he is or why he acts as he does but people here can support you in other ways if you're open to it.

You are in control of your own life and only you can make the steps to put this behind you, otherwise you'll continue on into another year, stuck in the same place, looking for answers that won't be there.

AgnesX · 14/04/2026 15:23

Whether he's different with her is neither nor there; he's an utter shit with you.

Your relationship is finished, move on. You already know what kind of a man he is. Stop labouring it.

Whattodo1610 · 14/04/2026 15:23

OP I too, genuinely don’t know what you want from this thread. EVERYONE is telling you he’s bad news, you need to move on, you need to see him for what he is, you need to change jobs etc etc. But all you keep doing is talking about him, fretting about him, keeping him alive in your head, wondering about him, wondering about his new life moving forward .. JUST MOVE ON FROM THE FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT HE IS!!!

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2026 15:25

Idontjetwashthefucker · 14/04/2026 15:13

What's the point in posting again, you disagree with everyone. What do you want people to say?

I think, and OP you tell me, that talking about him gives a tiny bit of the dopamine back. It feels the addiction. It’s like when people in tenuous recovery talk about drugs, or people talk about affair partners they don’t see. It’s deeply unhealthy and feeding the issue.

OP the reason reality posts aren’t helping is because the help you want is for MNers to get down in the slime with you. What you NEED is reality. He’s scum and talking about you risks getting the scum on you.

DuskOPorter · 14/04/2026 15:26

I think you are completely stuck @TigerIsHome is it your understanding? Where you can’t get your head around how he behaved towards you? Because that is about him and whatever f’d him up. Is it your ego and he has impacted your value and your feelings of worthiness? Then you have to develop your sense of self so you can appreciate that your value is not dependent on how other people behave towards you.

This is why people say it is about you. The world has plenty of very abusive people in it and as an adult you have the responsibility to protect yourself from these people as does every other adult out there.

That often means staying many miles out of their lane and being extremely grateful you have noticed it.

You need something to help you get unstuck here, I highly recommend getting a really good therapist and if you have had one I’d recommend making a change.

winnieanddaisy · 14/04/2026 15:27

I think you have had a lucky escape from this user . I would feel sorry for his next victim being taken in by him . He may marry her but neither of them will ever be happy because he doesn’t know how to be happy x x

cestlavielife · 14/04/2026 15:28

Put him in a box metaphorically and stick him in your compost heap the worms and rats will get to him eventually. Plant a rose on any happy memories and move on. He is nothng to do with you now.

Pancakeflipper · 14/04/2026 15:29

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 14:58

He's abusive and a narcissist but he may have found his person? Ah ok, gotcha. My abuse was warranted then. Thanks.

That is not what the poster was saying.

I think anything said by people on this thread will get distorted because you appear to be really struggling at the moment. I really feel for you but this thread won't help you.

I kindly suggest you get this thread deleted and you see your GP like your therapist said and see your therapist more regularly.

Itsanewlife · 14/04/2026 15:43

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:08

It's not irrelevant at all, I think it says a lot about me and that's why I'm struggling. How can someone with a broken history of marriages estrangement from his kids and being really verbally and emotionally abusive to me, suddenly be nice?

Kindly, I think everyone is telling you that it doesn't matter what he is or isn't and whether he can be nice to this person or not. He may well be a narcissistic and his new found relationship will likely collapse in a heap in due course. The point though is why are YOU so invested in him? You need to move on and let go of this focus on him/his motives/his behavior. You have no kids with him and no reason to be in his life. You need to move jobs, and cut him out of your life.

And, before you ask if I've been abused - yes, my ex had NPD (diagnosed) and I was with him for 25 years yet found the will to move on and let go. It was the hardest thing I've ever done but also the most rewarding.

cestlavielife · 14/04/2026 15:47

Remember that you were once drawn in by his "nice ness". Bullies and abusers and narcissists are nice sometimes.
But you need to stop ask8ng why becausexit no longer matters

Pepperedpickles · 14/04/2026 15:47

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:19

No problem, thank you anyway. I came here to try to get help. I'm sorry it's easy for you to move on, I don't have any family or outside support aside from my counsellor, who today urged me to book an appointment with my GP. I am trying. I just wanted to see if this new information changed anything because I'm really confused.

I appreciate the replies, I'm very lonely and isolated and it has thrown me completely to hear he may be getting married as all the work I've done over the past several months has come undone in my mind.

Apologies for bothering you again, thanks again.

It’s okay to want to vent about things. Just try and focus more on you and less on him. He doesn’t exist to you anymore. What do you want for yourself moving forwards?

HortiGal · 14/04/2026 15:50

By your own admission he was an abusive narcissist, why oh why are you still fixating on him 3 years later?
Be glad he’s out your life, or are you secretly hoping he’ll come back to you?
Get a new job and delete him from your life.

PaperMachePanda · 14/04/2026 15:52

This man is an utter loser.

He has a string of failed relationships behind him, behaves like an animal, makes gross comments at work and is, most likely, a narcissist and, at worst, deranged.

Why are you wasting so much emotional energy on him?

Who cares if he has a new relationship. It'll probably go the way of his others because he can't behave like an adult.

I don't wish to be rude or cruel op but get better mental health help. What you have now isn't working. You need something more serious and few freedom programs to boot.

Oh and when you see him at work, make sure you always have someone with you. If nobody is near leave the vicinity so he can't say anything to you.

PrincessofWells · 14/04/2026 16:00

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 14:58

He's abusive and a narcissist but he may have found his person? Ah ok, gotcha. My abuse was warranted then. Thanks.

Unlikely. Ask yourself what part of normal is claiming to be marrying someone he has met once?

If he is bothering you at work, ask hr to have a word and ask that he ignores you.

You sound a nice person who has been drawn into the tumulescence of his word. Find your equilibrium and move forward in the knowledge once an abuser always an abuser.

I had one 30 years ago I got rid of. He hasn't changed and continues to do the same to his ex wife and girlfriends as he was doing 30 years ago, going back to her for sex. I had a lucky escape. So did you xx

begonefoulclutter · 14/04/2026 16:00

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:08

It's not irrelevant at all, I think it says a lot about me and that's why I'm struggling. How can someone with a broken history of marriages estrangement from his kids and being really verbally and emotionally abusive to me, suddenly be nice?

Abusers are nice to a new girlfriend at the beginning. If they weren't, they'd never get anyone to go out with them at all, would they?

But because they are putting on a front, it can't last and they go back to their normal abusive self after a few weeks or months. They stay nice just long enough to get her hooked, and when she questions why he's no longer being nice to her any more, he will blame her and she'll believe it's her fault he's turned nasty. She will think it is because she's done something wrong. She'll try to do anything to make him be nice again, but it won't work.

BeeCucumber · 14/04/2026 16:05

He hasn’t found “his person”. This is not how he operates. He has just moved on to the next victim. That is all.

MermaidofRye · 14/04/2026 16:10

You sound as if you are deeply in love with a wonderful man who has left you for someone else. But he is not a wonderful man and every dog in the street-going by what you have said-knows that.

He sounds like a piece of dirty shit and no-one in their right mind could love him and that includes you. He has insulted you to your face and insulted you in front of others and here you are pining for him. No-one loves someone who treats them like that.

She may be his person-as someone up thread said- and he is going to adore her for ever or he may simply turn on her the way he did to you but, whatever, it is no loss of yours.

Most women on here will have been dumped by someone and they move on and that is what you have to do.

What on earth did he mean by asking you if you had a rubber fanny in your bag and why didn't you take your bag and take a swing at him with it.

Get some self-respect. You've been dumped. We all have at one time or another and yet here we all are, moved on.

StripedVase · 14/04/2026 16:15

TigerIsHome · 14/04/2026 15:08

Not helpful.

But true.

Starrystarrybright · 14/04/2026 16:16

MrsTerryPratchett · 14/04/2026 15:13

Logically, you had a very brief period of love bombing. Then he was horrible to you, including at work, and now he’s using this poor new woman to try to make you jealous.

What you need to do is work out why you’re letting him. He might be a narcissist, abusive, scummy and evil. And you adored him. And still seem invested. That’s the issue, not who he is and who he’s dating or marrying.

I feel very sorry for this woman, and possibly keeping that in your mind would help. Poor cow has more of this to deal with.

He’s playing with your head , revelling in the power he has over you .

SoSadSoSadSoSad · 14/04/2026 16:18

He sounds really awful.

But this is about you. And how you’re not dealing with this properly.

Can you move jobs? Really go cold turkey so you never have to see him ever again?