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He’s got someone else hasn’t he?

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Imustbestupid · 11/01/2025 20:46

So, my partner of 10 years today suddenly said he had to drive an hour away to meet someone for business. I can’t explain why but I felt a bit off about it. Just his manner somehow. He has, in the past, messaged another woman but I know it went no further. Just flirty comments on his behalf. I saw them all and she shut him down. Anyway, he swore it was over and that was it. This was over a year ago. I tried to get over it but I have to confess I never forgot and never really did get past it. Today, he was gone for five hours. Claimed he has been shopping as well as the business meeting but no shopping to show for it. His phone bleeped and it was a message from a woman on WhatsApp. He literally has no women friends. He has been unusually attentive since getting home. I am going to check his WhatsApp when he is asleep later. Just need a handhold for what I think I will find. Thank you

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Sesameopen · 23/01/2025 10:28

Arlanymor · 23/01/2025 10:23

Very true - plus I was married and when I left my husband I took my car, the cats and my clothes. Not everything is about money. Sometimes it is just about getting the hell out of somewhere.

Your response to the PP was more measured than mine - I just thought it was a shit time and place to make the point. We’re here to help the OP not make them ruminate on what could have been done differently. Things are hard enough.

Ugh that sucks. Sorry that happened to you.

Not everything is about money. Sometimes it is just about getting the hell out of somewhere.

Exactly. Peace of mind is priceless.

I just thought it was a shit time and place to make the point

Yes also true.

SpringleDingle · 23/01/2025 10:28

I'm still here, chearing you on! You are an inspiration. Enjoy the big orange cat and never say never to some future dating (with firm boundaries of course!)

Imustbestupid · 23/01/2025 10:39

Thanks for all the messages everyone. I have - and continue to - appreciated all the support on here. It’s been a big help. In response to the being married one, I am extremely grateful that I was not. I can only imagine the length of time, trouble and money separating would have taken in that case. I’m not sure what I would have gained from being married? Money I suppose in terms of a settlement. Well, I’d rather have a quick, clean break than that.

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WoolySnail · 23/01/2025 10:42

Still here and rooting for you op. You've been so incredibly brave and dignified through all this, even if you don't feel like you have! Whenever you have a wobble we'll be here for you and the ginger chonk 😁♥️🐱

Imustbestupid · 23/01/2025 10:45

MontezumasPuma · 23/01/2025 07:44

Hugs OP. We’re still here. It will get better. You’re well rid. ExDH had a midlife crisis and advertised himself for boot licking on BDSM websites. He’s now working in sex clubs in London. I could still do him damage more than ten years on. You will be happy again and happier than before.

Dear God. I am genuinely baffled sometimes by the priorities some people have and how they choose to live.

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Willwetalk · 23/01/2025 10:56

Imustbestupid · 12/01/2025 10:29

I put up with a lot of stuff from him over the years. Things I never told anyone about. I am not strong, it took me a long time to get here. He was always very very angry if ever we argued so I stopped arguing because it was easier. If I had an opinion he disagreed with he would just shut it down so I stopped voicing opinions. I am a shell of the person I was and I don’t think I fully realised that. Is it something about a boiling frog - is that the analogy? I’m only starting to realise it now

I lived like this for a long time. It might take a while, but you will come to relish the freedom. You will return to yourself. You will be happy in your own skin. Good luck x

MsMarch · 23/01/2025 11:11

Op, I've followed youi rthread. I think that over time, you're going ot feel even better because I suspect this relationship was much worse than you actually realised. eg you said no financial abuse... and yet you were paying for everything?

Also, him calling other people and ranting is, sadly, not in the slightest bit outing. It's actually remarkably common. It's part of the "woe is me" narrative. It even works sometimes, but often backfires. exBIL is now blocked by almost every one of SIL's friends and family.

Blondiebeachbabe · 23/01/2025 11:15

Op, if you are stupid, then so am I. My first DH cheated for 20 years. I had no idea. He even slept with my very best mate. I'm glad to say that I left him, and am now married to someone else who doesn't behave this way. Not all men are like this. I can't believe that he suggested to you, that if you got another Partner, they would do the same. WTAF!

Hwi · 23/01/2025 11:20

JoanCollinsDiva · 23/01/2025 10:06

I disagree. Men don't care if they're married or not if they want to cheat! Nothing will get in the way of a man's ego, lust, desire for attention.

And if there are no children involved and you own your own properties it's makes no sense to get married. Look how easily the OP has been able to cut him off without having the angst of months of solicitors/divorce proceedings/splitting of assets etc.

She's in a great position that lots of women who find out their partners are lying scumbags would dream of!

Actually, you are right, but with the provisos you mentioned - she is independently wealthy, she just walks away - but what about those women who are NOT independently wealthy and dedicated years of unpaid housework to their 'partner'? What do they do?

WildAquaBiscuit · 23/01/2025 11:22

Some men seem to be addicted to sex. And like any addiction just needs more and more feeding. They'll never be satisfied 😥

Inthebathagain · 23/01/2025 11:30

MontezumasPuma · 23/01/2025 07:44

Hugs OP. We’re still here. It will get better. You’re well rid. ExDH had a midlife crisis and advertised himself for boot licking on BDSM websites. He’s now working in sex clubs in London. I could still do him damage more than ten years on. You will be happy again and happier than before.

Ah, a kindred spirit.

What is it about these men and their sexual crazies coming out after the age of 40? 🤷 XH had similar bizarre behaviours we split up over.

You're doing great @Imustbestupid Keep going

kellygoeswest · 23/01/2025 12:10

I'm so sorry to read this, but you've come across as really, really strong and decisive from the get go. You should be proud of how you've handled this! Wishing you and kitty the best future <3

AugustFagerudd · 23/01/2025 12:59

Hey, I’m really sorry you're feeling this way, I can understand why you’re feeling off about everything, especially with the past history. It sounds like you’re trusting your gut, and it's totally okay to want clarity if something feels off. But also, try to consider how you approach it. If you do check his WhatsApp, try to stay calm and not jump to conclusions before you know for sure. It’s important to have an honest conversation with him, too. Either way, I’m here for you and you’re not alone in this.

Jewel52 · 23/01/2025 14:04

Hwi · 23/01/2025 09:57

I get ripped into on here when I say 'partner' means sweet fa, but I genuinely believe that if you were married, he would have been shit-scared to do it - you would have taken him to the cleaners in your divorce. And now, because there is no status, what can you do? Seriously? You provided 10 years of sex servicing and home provision to him for what exactly? Or am I mistaken and if a 'partner' walks away, they are entitled to things?

You are completely mistaken. Married men do this stuff all the time.

Also, the op in this case was completely financially independent so your comments don’t apply.

Stay financially independent is a much better piece of advice to any woman in 2025 than imagining a piece of paper will somehow prevent a cheater from cheating.

And I say this as an idiot who gave up a good career and learnt the hard way.

RareTraybake · 23/01/2025 14:39

Just tread carefully. If you catch him out, be prepared for him to turn on you for being a bad wife etcetcetc. If he gets violent, call the police. Talking from experience. Love. Xx

ChristmasKelpie · 23/01/2025 14:50

So glad you have updated, i think of you and Orange cat often and i am delighted you are both doing well x

RoastDinnerSmellsNice · 23/01/2025 16:03

Reading your response to this message, was such a relief OP! It's SO good to hear, that when a woman finds herself in this position, she can actually sling the cheating bastard out if she wants to. All too often women get themselves into situations which force them to put up with horrible behaviour, or then struggle for years to make a new life.

In saying all that, I really do hope for your sake, that you're wrong, but confirm that there ARE good men out there - I've got one!

Hwi · 23/01/2025 16:12

Jewel52 · 23/01/2025 14:04

You are completely mistaken. Married men do this stuff all the time.

Also, the op in this case was completely financially independent so your comments don’t apply.

Stay financially independent is a much better piece of advice to any woman in 2025 than imagining a piece of paper will somehow prevent a cheater from cheating.

And I say this as an idiot who gave up a good career and learnt the hard way.

I see what you are saying, but this is not what I meant - I do not for a second think married men don't cheat and don't leave their spouses, I merely said that at least if you are married and you sacrificed your career by being a sahm to further his, at least you will walk away with 50% of assets, that is all I meant. Unlike a partner who has zero recourse. That is all.

Sometimesright · 23/01/2025 17:07

You didn’t Op, he did that! Hope you feel happier soon x

ShalalaIa · 23/01/2025 17:07

Imustbestupid · 23/01/2025 00:05

It was from Amazon. He absolutely hates it and keeps trying to pull it off but way better than the one from the vets. He and I are doing ok. I am really feeling so much better after such a short time, I’m surprised. I think I must have felt quite bad for quite a long time and not realised if that makes sense?

Have you tried a small cat jumper/tee shirt /baby top of some sort that will cover the patch so he doesn't worry it?

Imustbestupid · 23/01/2025 20:38

ShalalaIa · 23/01/2025 17:07

Have you tried a small cat jumper/tee shirt /baby top of some sort that will cover the patch so he doesn't worry it?

He was a stray for a few years after being abandoned by his previous owner so he can be a bit feral. No way I could get clothes on him! I wish I could as this would be simpler. It took 3 of us just to get this collar over his head ...

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Imustbestupid · 23/01/2025 23:54

So I can’t sleep much at the moment as you may know. And I live in Scotland where we have a red warning for absolute carnage tomorrow! All trains, buses and now even supermarkets are off. I hope anyone else on here affected by this does not suffer badly. Big orange cat and I are battened down. 🤞

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WiddlinDiddlin · 24/01/2025 05:02

Stay safe with Big Orange - can you get him some toys he has to hunt and 'skin' and perhaps lick..

I think there are some around but probably horribly expensive.

I've used the lickimats made for dogs, for cats - just spread some suitably tasty lickable stuff (I think you can get paste cat treats, I am not so familiar with cat treats as I am dog ones)... the UFO type lickimat (robust, has suction pads on the back) can be stuck to a smooth hard surface which can let you stick it to some interesting locations to get him moving around and doing, distracting him from self harm.

Small juice bottles (errrrrrr Tropicana the tiny size you get in meal deals or used to) - take off the lid, keep that to one side. Remove the ring from the neck - clean and dry and then pop treats/dry food in and let him batter it around to get the food out.

Next level of difficulty is to make some small holes in the bottle but put the lid on, so its harder to get the food out.

Final difficulty level - get some tiny itty bitty kids socks, pop the treat filled bottle into a sock, so now he has to 'skin' it to get the bottle out, then get food out of the bottle.

You can then make several of these and place them around your house for him to hunt.

Providing outlets for natural behaviours can help calm and distract, and direct his furry brain weasels into something productive.

AnonAnonmystery · 24/01/2025 08:31

@Imustbestupid the storm has come as far as the South of England. It’s so annoying that they always come on the weekend!

Imustbestupid · 25/01/2025 12:24

Oh dear, weekends are the hardest. I always used to go shopping on Saturdays and cook us a nice dinner in the evening. I don’t feel up to doing that when it’s just me. I think I’m doing ok and then a big wall of sadness hits me, which it is doing right now. Big orange cat seems to have caught a cold, he keeps sneezing. I’m going to have to take him back to the vet for the third time. 🙄

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