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My girlfriend hit me on Saturday and I'm lost

225 replies

NotJason · 16/12/2024 11:16

This isn't easy to write, and I expect a lot of negative judgement, but I'd really value your open opinions and experiences.

I'm 35 (male), she's 30, we've dated for nearly 5 years and have lived together for the majority of that time (covid sped that up).

On Saturday we drunkenly left a party and started bickering as our phone batteries were low and we were struggling to get an uber. The alcohol was naturally making this worse as it's not an important topic, but we were stuck in the middle of an area we didn't know at 1am.

I flag a taxi as uber isn't working and we get in. She's still annoyed and is repeatedly saying how I always need to be right etc etc. I get annoyed and I rise to this in a childish manner, I'm not proud, my emotions too were up and down from the booze. I childishly respond that yes that's me, and I am always right, and when was the last time she was right. She then struck me in the face, which broke my glasses.

Since then she has been very sorry and has tried to look after me on Sunday. She's apologised a lot and has said we can talk when I'm ready. She says she'll stop drinking (not that she drinks regularly). We've talked a bit on Sunday about it.

Obvious questions you may have.... Do we argue a lot and has this happened before. We don't argue often, and this happened once before when drunk after a wedding about 15 months ago. Similarly we were arguing but this time in bed, she then struck me in the chest and kicked me off the bed, before being extremely sorry.

I know the knee jerk reaction is end it. But I love her and we live together. It's not perfect, but things have been improving since we started bi-weekly couples therapy about 6 months ago (not related to this, about improving intimacy and sex life).

Thank you if you've made it this far. I don't want to do anything brash, but I'm lost and don't know what to do next.

OP posts:
Cheesandcrackers · 16/12/2024 17:02

alexdgr8 · 16/12/2024 16:44

Well I don't think a woman hitting a man is quite so bad as a man hitting a woman.
For the simple one reason that generally a man can overpower a woman .
Whereas a woman cannot overpower a man.

Obviously that does not excuse such behaviour or make it all right.

It simply makes it less dangerous physically.
So the need to flee is not so urgent.
That's how I see it anyway.
I know many onhere will disagree.
But I am primarily addressing you OP.
You will probably disagree with my advice too.
Which is that you should both stop drinking alcohol. Immediately.
Then you will be better placed to consider the whole situation.

It's good that you'll have some time apart and to discuss it with a counsellor.
I wish you all the best.

It is very possible for a woman to injure a bigger man especially when hit from behind or to the head. And the OPs girlfriend does sound like she has emotional control issues. And a female abuser is significantly more likely to portray a male victim as an abuser. Needless to say the police will have to assume the worst. Not drinking is good advice but a distant second to just finishing with her.

anxioussister · 16/12/2024 18:01

JFDIYOLO · 16/12/2024 12:28

Your sexes are irrelevant.

You are the victim of repeated physical abuse.

I imagine there is a side order of shame that you are a man being assaulted by a woman - it's more common than you think and just as serious as the other way round.

Physical abuse followed by 'I'm sorry I'll do better' followed by forgiveness followed by another incident is a well known abuser's cycle.

Those broken glasses could have blinded you. You were lucky that time

It will only end if you end it.

Because she won't stop. And one day you will either be seriously hurt - or you'll have no choice but to defend yourself.

Then you'll become the 'abusive bad guy' in others' opinion.

Please don't have kids with her. Imagine what she could do to a screaming baby or tantrumming toddler.

Edited

“Imagine what she could do to a screaming baby or tantrumming toddler”

someone who is moved to violence when feeling emotional / overwhelmed is NOT someone you want to be coparenting young children with. I am hugely peaceful + not-an-angry person and sometimes my children push my buttons and I want to walk into to a dark room and scream into a pillow with frustration. They’re lovely, happy, loved children - who are absolutely maddening sometimes because they’re small and irrational.

the absolute last thing a vulnerable child needs is someone who resorts to violence in the face of stress.

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 16/12/2024 18:32

NotJason · 16/12/2024 16:24

Hi all,

I have read all your responses and I'm doing my best to take it all onboard, I very much appreciate your insights. And it's certainly fair to question her side etc. I do own that my words were barbed, but also out of sorts. We rarely argue and we're usually quite considerate and respectful to each other. I think that's also why this feels quite out of the blue. We're not normally the sort to bicker often, swear, or demean.

For clarity I've never laid my hands on anyone like that, and the question of the nature of the strike I actually don't know. I wasn't looking at her at the time, I was looking forward and she was sat to my left 🤷‍♂️. Glasses wise she's offered to pay.

I've taken onboard the points raised re shared therapy. She's agreed to get therapy just for her, and this week the couples session will be just me.

It's looking likely she'll stay with a friend for a couple days, she's said she'll do whatever I need/feel most comfortable with.

I hear your points loud and clear, and naturally I'm devastated, but completely understand where you're all coming from. I'm just struggling to accept it's quite probably fucked.

A couples therapist will not work with you if there is domestic violence involved. The only way that can happen is if you lie about it.

Think about that for a second, you would have to lie to a counsellor that no violence has occurred so that they would engage with you.

Please end things with her.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/12/2024 18:34

I'm obviously very invested in her and us. I take it onboard what you're saying, it's just a truly sad thought to give up

After 5 years of course you feel sad OP, but not as sad as you'd almost certainly come to feel if you continued this - to say nothing of the message that would give that it "wasn't that bad"

A drunken, genuine one-off might be one thing, but this is a pattern. Add to that the other angst you're going through with her, and for most it would be just too much

Since she's claimed she'll do "whatever you need" I'd hope a breakup can be done calmly, but wouldn't want to assume that so would advise you to be careful

OldMrBernardWhoHaveYouSilencedToday · 16/12/2024 19:05

NotJason · 16/12/2024 16:24

Hi all,

I have read all your responses and I'm doing my best to take it all onboard, I very much appreciate your insights. And it's certainly fair to question her side etc. I do own that my words were barbed, but also out of sorts. We rarely argue and we're usually quite considerate and respectful to each other. I think that's also why this feels quite out of the blue. We're not normally the sort to bicker often, swear, or demean.

For clarity I've never laid my hands on anyone like that, and the question of the nature of the strike I actually don't know. I wasn't looking at her at the time, I was looking forward and she was sat to my left 🤷‍♂️. Glasses wise she's offered to pay.

I've taken onboard the points raised re shared therapy. She's agreed to get therapy just for her, and this week the couples session will be just me.

It's looking likely she'll stay with a friend for a couple days, she's said she'll do whatever I need/feel most comfortable with.

I hear your points loud and clear, and naturally I'm devastated, but completely understand where you're all coming from. I'm just struggling to accept it's quite probably fucked.

It's a big thing to accept. It takes on average seven attempts for someone to leave their abuser, so it's entirely natural that you find this situation a struggle.

I have been in a similar position to you in the past, so I understand how hard it is to extricate yourself and how much of a headfuck it is that you're dating two very different people in one. But I promise the best thing is to leave. The bad side always comes back. It's a case of how many more times you want this to happen before you leave.

I really wish you all the best. Please don't feel bad if you can't leave right away. This has to be your decision. We can only give you advice, but we'll keep giving it if you need.

vibratosprigato · 16/12/2024 19:06

If you stay she'll do it again. Do you want children? How could you raise children in a household where they could be exposed to that, especially if it escalates which physical abuse often does. It's ok to love someone but still walk away.

Pipconkermash · 16/12/2024 19:56

She’ll do it again. They always do. People who act on those compulsions always hit again.

EarthSight · 16/12/2024 19:58

She then struck me in the face, which broke my glasses

Jesus.

Not acceptable. Leave her.

TheFormidableMrsC · 16/12/2024 20:08

@Lamplighton Disgusting abuser apologist posts. Are you for real? Would you tell your daughter "well he only hit you once so I wouldn't go to the police". I am absolutely stunned at some of the posts here. Because it's a man as the victim.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 16/12/2024 20:35

Lamplighton · 16/12/2024 17:01

If it happened two days ago and there was no ongoing risk of violence then yes of course I would. Why are police required?

Because a crime was committed? He's well within his rights to press charges.

LemonPeonies · 16/12/2024 20:44

alexdgr8 · 16/12/2024 16:44

Well I don't think a woman hitting a man is quite so bad as a man hitting a woman.
For the simple one reason that generally a man can overpower a woman .
Whereas a woman cannot overpower a man.

Obviously that does not excuse such behaviour or make it all right.

It simply makes it less dangerous physically.
So the need to flee is not so urgent.
That's how I see it anyway.
I know many onhere will disagree.
But I am primarily addressing you OP.
You will probably disagree with my advice too.
Which is that you should both stop drinking alcohol. Immediately.
Then you will be better placed to consider the whole situation.

It's good that you'll have some time apart and to discuss it with a counsellor.
I wish you all the best.

Utter bollocks, some women are very strong or could use weapons. Give your head a wobble.

Enterthedragonqueen · 16/12/2024 20:46

Dump her, she's trying to see what she can get away with because she's female. She is an abuser and you need to dump her and report her for assault.

NantesElephant · 16/12/2024 21:00

I know it is painful to face it but I would end things. She could blinded you in a moment of anger. I wouldn’t dream of doing this to someone I love. You deserve better than this. 🙏🏼

Call the Men's Advice Line (801 0327 0808 801 0327) for specialist support

Opentooffers · 16/12/2024 21:08

I consider childhood trauma a red flag these days and would not aim to date anyone who has experienced it. Yes it's sad for people it's happened to, but the baggage it causes, and poor behaviour they can display, then makes it your problem also, which it needn't, and its totally fair to walk away from it.
I think at the least you should live apart and she should get counselling for it. She needs to do a lot of work on herself and may always have a tendency to resort to violence when angry or frustrated.
You have a choice, to be with someone who could react violently, or to be with someone who you trust never would. If you see a future with DC's, she's not a safe bet. To keep in this, likely will lead to a harder life for you.

Happytoday45 · 16/12/2024 21:22

I actually think you can probably get through it but I live in normal land and not mumsnet land

Maurepas · 16/12/2024 21:25

Well would you want little children, who can be very tiring and annoying - should you have any - be exposed to possibly inevitable violence from this woman who cannot control herself?

LaBorde · 16/12/2024 21:39

I read your posts earlier today, and didn’t reply because I ramble and would have exposed too much of what ended up happening to my son.
It will probably escalate, you need to cut your ties now.

I came back to find your post, as have just been watching 24 hrs in police custody on Ch4.

I advise you and @alexdgr8 to watch it.

My girlfriend hit me on Saturday and I'm lost
Lavender14 · 16/12/2024 21:42

Totally agree with pps violence is usually a sign that the relationship is done and its time to walk away. This isn't healthy for either of you and she's being abusive.

ShadowsOfTheDays · 16/12/2024 21:44

Happytoday45 · 16/12/2024 21:22

I actually think you can probably get through it but I live in normal land and not mumsnet land

Why would anyone want to 'get through' being hit and kicked by their partner?

That's certainly not normal.

Lamplighton · 16/12/2024 21:46

Happytoday45 · 16/12/2024 21:22

I actually think you can probably get through it but I live in normal land and not mumsnet land

Me too. I think it is a game for some people on here to encourage people to end their relationships.
The OP has been with his partner for 5 years and she has hit him twice. Of course that is unacceptable but if he loves her then he can encourage her to apply herself to her therapy and work through it.

Frith2013 · 16/12/2024 21:53

Lamplighton · 16/12/2024 21:46

Me too. I think it is a game for some people on here to encourage people to end their relationships.
The OP has been with his partner for 5 years and she has hit him twice. Of course that is unacceptable but if he loves her then he can encourage her to apply herself to her therapy and work through it.

What utter garbage.

ShadowsOfTheDays · 16/12/2024 21:54

But genuinely why? They're not married, they don't share property, they don't have kids.

There's absolutely nothing to keep them together, and actual domestic violence should keep them apart.

WTF are you two actually on about. If your mate said she'd been kicked and hit by her partner would you say 'well it's real life innit, you can probably sort it out'?

Spooky2000 · 16/12/2024 21:56

JabbaTheBeachHut · 16/12/2024 14:36

There are two sides to every story and the truth is somewhere inbetween, so I was recently told. I wonder what her explanation is - I don't agree with hitting obviously, but the thought has crossed my mind what her version of the relationship is.

Well maybe you should keep your thoughts to yourself, when a victim comes here to say they've been violently abused twice.

We only ever hear one side of the story on MN because only one person is doing the posting.

If a woman came on here to say she'd been violently struck twice by her husband, would you be posting to say you'd like to hear his side?

  1. It was a police officer who told me that after 2. my being arrested for malicious allegations of physical abuse.
So no. Not 'keeping my thoughts' to myself :)
category12 · 16/12/2024 21:59

Lamplighton · 16/12/2024 21:46

Me too. I think it is a game for some people on here to encourage people to end their relationships.
The OP has been with his partner for 5 years and she has hit him twice. Of course that is unacceptable but if he loves her then he can encourage her to apply herself to her therapy and work through it.

How many times does she have to hit him in 5 years for it to tip into being worth breaking up over?

Hey, her pets and friends probably love her too - how many punches would you expect them to work through?

Why would you encourage someone to stay in a relationship where they're getting hit?

Spooky2000 · 16/12/2024 22:03

gamerchick · 16/12/2024 14:50

He said she broke his glasses.

Do you slap your partner in the head and that's why you're minimising this?

And yeah, to those who wondered if I would ask - if I was in a room with both, yep I would ask for both sides. That's what the police do too. Sadly we don't get the opportunity to do that here. It's dog-piling here, yet when it comes to sticking up for women in RL, few women intervene, IME.

As for minimisation, as I said, I'm not saying one type of assault is 'better' than another, but if it suits to ignore what I've written, so be it.