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To think even men in their 80’s are still sex obsessed !!!

219 replies

Prettydisgustedactually · 13/10/2024 23:41

A year ago, a new neighbour moved in next door, he’s 87. When I found out his age, before he moved in, I mentioned to my kids that we must be caring and helpful etc and keep an eye on him.

However, he’s the opposite of what we expected. Drives literally anywhere in his sporty BMW, has an iPhone, on YouTube etc….a very young at heart type. He has an on/off relationship with a woman in her late 60’s but they row lots and she ups and leaves.

Over the summer he asked if he could help me with the garden to keep himself fit. I offered to pay but he wouldn’t accept so I made him lunch on the days he helped. One day my daughter wanted to go in the pool, but because he was there she wouldn’t. I told her not to be silly but she said she felt weird because he’d made some kind of innuendo about me. She couldn’t remember what exactly, as she was shocked he’d said it. I told her she was mistaken as he’s 87.

Then a few weeks later he said “I’d have a go at you if you weren’t married” I’m 56!!! I was so shocked, but pretended I hadn’t heard. The week after he’d changed his car, and when I asked how he was getting on with it he told me it was great and he’d ‘Have to get me on the back seat’ Enlightening me with “I’m a fully functioning man in all areas” and going on to ask me “What do you think of that program Naked attraction?” Urgh…..I wanted to vomit 🤮

This has absolutely disgusted me and made my skin crawl. It’s actually saddened me too, as I really thought he genuinely enjoyed having a chat to me, when actually…I mean WTAF????? Then even worse!! My DD (aged 18) said he’d been all flirty with her after she put his bin out FFS 😡😡😡 What the hell?

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Catoo · 15/10/2024 00:06

It’s good that he now knows that he shouldn’t say these things. But again, it isn’t his age that’s important. It doesn’t matter how much older he is than you, it’s that he’s being inappropriate.

If he was the same age as you would it make saying these things better? Hopefully not.

Pervy men are pervy men whatever their age.

WearyAuldWumman · 15/10/2024 00:07

The old goat a few doors down from me hit on me while my husband was still alive. I've since realised that he targets women who are carers.

As I told one of the other women, he claims to be in his fifties. The only part of him that's around fifty would be his false teeth.

Prettydisgustedactually · 15/10/2024 00:08

sprigatito · 14/10/2024 00:34

This thread is horrible. My 84yo dad lives with me and isn't like this at all, he's gentle, respectful and decent. Sorry to be the NAMALT bore, and of course there are elderly perverts and predators, but the blanket ageism on this thread is very uncomfortable reading Sad

I apologise if I have offended you. Being pervy is vile at any age, but it somehow seems more shocking from an 87 year old. Maybe it shouldn’t. No offence meant against your lovely dad.

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BibbityBobbityToo · 15/10/2024 00:11

Could you ask your husband to tell him to never speak to you or daughter again or he'll report him to the police for sexual harrassment and he's is no longer welcome around your house? Maybe mention you have put up security cameras and will be recording him.

(Can't imagine the police could do anything but it wouldn't surprise me if the old man had previous allegations made against him).

ReggaetonLente · 15/10/2024 00:13

I do think men never lose that urge. I had a
job once where I had contact with lots of elderly widowers and the amount that tried to ask me out on dates for dinner / drinks / round to their houses was insane. I was in my early 20s! Some take a bit of kindness as a come on, no matter their age.

Prettydisgustedactually · 15/10/2024 00:17

CoalTit · 14/10/2024 03:22

@Prettydisgustedactually I told her not to be silly... I told her she was mistaken as he’s 87.
Have you had the conversation where you tell her you were wrong and she was right? I assume you don't want to train her to ignore her own survival instinct.

Also, NAMALT and your title strongly suggests that you now think that they are.

Omg too right! I have apologised profusely to her and told her she was absolutely right to feel something was off and never to listen to anything other than her instincts. I have told her to absolutely avoid all interactions with him.

sorry but no idea what NAMALT means.

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FineMom · 15/10/2024 00:18

Could you use your words and teach your daughter to as well?

Prettydisgustedactually · 15/10/2024 00:18

Changeyourfuckingcar · 14/10/2024 08:22

Agree with this. Even more sad that you told her she was mistaken when she was absolutely right, trusting some man you barely knew over what your own daughter was telling you.

Which is why I now feel like crap 💩

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Draytona · 15/10/2024 00:21

I met an 80 yo on holiday recently. Very tidy, lived a great life. He said “I’ve had 7 wives. But only 1 was mine”. I did laugh

Prettydisgustedactually · 15/10/2024 00:21

WhereYouLeftIt · 14/10/2024 08:28

You do need to put your neighbour in his place, @Prettydisgustedactually. Stop pretending you 'didn't hear' his comments - just tell him 'Wow, that's creepy!' when he's being creepy.

I'd be asking him if he's been checked for dementia, as you've read about how dementia can remove people's inhibitions and he really should have a word with his GP because you've also read there are wonderful drugs now that can slow down the onset and he really should attend to his health before it gets too advanced. And I wouldn't give a flying fuck if he took offence at my suggestion, I'd rather hope he did and gave me and mine a wide berth in future.

Done tonight!!! Read a few pages up.

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Prettydisgustedactually · 15/10/2024 00:28

ClickClickety · 14/10/2024 10:52

I hope you apologised to your daughter for dismissing her.

This sort of situation requires a man (DH, brother etc.) to go round to his and set him straight that he's not to talk to you or the girls again.

I have apologised and I actually feel mortified for ignoring her.

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XChrome · 15/10/2024 00:31

This is sexual harassment. If it happens again, tell him that's what it is and that you will not tolerate it another minute. Don't let your kids be alone with him either.
You can also tell him he is not doing your garden anymore either. He wants an excuse to be in your garden in case he's caught peeping on you and your daughter. That's why he's doing it and he can fuck right off.
You have to be firm and unequivocal with scum like this.

Prettydisgustedactually · 15/10/2024 00:32

Sjdjb · 14/10/2024 11:11

An elderly man in the library started chatting with me and my DD in the children’s section. He said she had ‘Come to bed eyes’ and would make some chap very happy.
She was 3.

Omg 😦 Please tell me you went to the police?

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Saphire123 · 15/10/2024 00:40

A letch is a letch, no matter what the age.
I suspect he has always been a sexual pest.

CoalTit · 15/10/2024 05:28

Prettydisgustedactually · 15/10/2024 00:17

Omg too right! I have apologised profusely to her and told her she was absolutely right to feel something was off and never to listen to anything other than her instincts. I have told her to absolutely avoid all interactions with him.

sorry but no idea what NAMALT means.

Good for you. You've turned it into something positive.

Also, NAMALT = Not all men are like that. The initials are usually used ironically because it's such a common response to reports of men being horrible. I wasn't being ironic in this case.
Thank you for the reminder to type things out properly.

Prettydisgustedactually · 16/10/2024 22:58

Omg! Literally every time I open my gates to leave or arrive home, he comes out. He’s literally waiting for me to get home from work every day, either standing on his doorstep or in his garage. Tonight I went to the shop at 8.45pm and he opened his door and shut it. I actually feel really anxious now and I am gobsmacked at how stupid and naive I’ve been.

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Catoo · 16/10/2024 23:03

OP where is your husband in all this?

Have you told him any of it?

EnterFunnyNameHere · 17/10/2024 09:53

I think you need to have one final discussion direct with him to lay out a) he's been acting really inappropriately, b) as a result you no longer want to spend time with him/have him help in the garden.

Simple, clear, unequivocal "leave us alone".

Any excuses/apologies are simply batted back with "regardless, I don't feel comfortable being around you, so please do not come around" or whatever.

Prettydisgustedactually · 17/10/2024 19:21

He works abroad, so is away for weeks at a time. When I befriended him he often said “doesn’t your husband mind” and I’d say “of course not” because at that time, I was so bloody naive. Now I know why he was asking that. I got home tonight and he wasn’t in. Then when I needed to pop some stuff over to a friend with my daughter, he still wasn’t in, but when I got back he was just sitting in his car on the driveway, obviously waiting for me. I just drove past and into our driveway.
i actually feel bad for ignoring him, but it’s his own fault. I keep thinking back now to odd things he said. He once said his woman friend accused him of sleeping with his dead son’s wife. He also said he’d like to have gone to a car show with my daughter…..urgh! It’s actually really upsetting me. I have told my husband and he’s told me to ignore him.

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Prettydisgustedactually · 17/10/2024 19:27

EnterFunnyNameHere · 17/10/2024 09:53

I think you need to have one final discussion direct with him to lay out a) he's been acting really inappropriately, b) as a result you no longer want to spend time with him/have him help in the garden.

Simple, clear, unequivocal "leave us alone".

Any excuses/apologies are simply batted back with "regardless, I don't feel comfortable being around you, so please do not come around" or whatever.

I told him I was not happy with his comments about getting me on the back seat of his car and having a crack at me and his reply was “I’d never break your marriage up” That was even worse!!!!😡😡😡 because he actually thought he could break it up and clearly thinks I’m interested.

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Appletreepots · 17/10/2024 19:34

I think it's a mistake to imagine it's about sexual urges. Although of course older people have those, harrassing women is about power, ego and identity.

A man whose fragile ego means his identity is based on sexual power over women will behave like that whatever his actual sexual feelings (probably more so the lesser they are).

It's cultural, also. Plenty of men who are brought up as feminists don't behave in that way, whatever their sexual feelings , simply because their identity isn't based on othering women or being anything more than equal human beings engaging in mutual relationships.

idkbroidk · 17/10/2024 19:37

Prettydisgustedactually · 17/10/2024 19:27

I told him I was not happy with his comments about getting me on the back seat of his car and having a crack at me and his reply was “I’d never break your marriage up” That was even worse!!!!😡😡😡 because he actually thought he could break it up and clearly thinks I’m interested.

what a delusional pervert he is, ugh. i'm so sorry you have to deal with him as your neighbour :(

buffyfaithspike · 17/10/2024 19:43

I had an elderly guy that's in his 80s, known him for years
Overheard him say to someone about me "he loved her since I met her"
ELEVEN. I was eleven when he first met me

idkbroidk · 17/10/2024 19:46

One day my daughter wanted to go in the pool, but because he was there she wouldn’t. I told her not to be silly but she said she felt weird because he’d made some kind of innuendo about me. She couldn’t remember what exactly, as she was shocked he’d said it. I told her she was mistaken as he’s 87.

please believe your daughter :(

Roundthemoon · 17/10/2024 19:51

Prettydisgustedactually · 17/10/2024 19:27

I told him I was not happy with his comments about getting me on the back seat of his car and having a crack at me and his reply was “I’d never break your marriage up” That was even worse!!!!😡😡😡 because he actually thought he could break it up and clearly thinks I’m interested.

Some men are so delusional. They think that if you even say hello, that you are interested in them.

I was walking the camino Santiago once and I got chatting to a much older man walking it. We had both stopped in a cafe for coffee.

Naturally as you do on the camino, people talk about why are they walking the camino. I politely asked him why be was walking the camino. We exchanged email addresses as he told me about another hiking trip, I was interested in doing. He said he would send me the details and photos. Hikers on the camino often tell each other about other walking groups and exchange a few details.

That was it.

I walked on.

Next thing I got an email from him saying that he'd broken up with his girlfriend for me, and I could move into his house and live with him when I wanted to. In the email he wrote that in return for me moving in with him, he wouldn't want any rent, but he would expect me to do a few chores!

We had literally met once and had a 15 minute chat!

He was about 65. I was about 33 at the time