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To think even men in their 80’s are still sex obsessed !!!

219 replies

Prettydisgustedactually · 13/10/2024 23:41

A year ago, a new neighbour moved in next door, he’s 87. When I found out his age, before he moved in, I mentioned to my kids that we must be caring and helpful etc and keep an eye on him.

However, he’s the opposite of what we expected. Drives literally anywhere in his sporty BMW, has an iPhone, on YouTube etc….a very young at heart type. He has an on/off relationship with a woman in her late 60’s but they row lots and she ups and leaves.

Over the summer he asked if he could help me with the garden to keep himself fit. I offered to pay but he wouldn’t accept so I made him lunch on the days he helped. One day my daughter wanted to go in the pool, but because he was there she wouldn’t. I told her not to be silly but she said she felt weird because he’d made some kind of innuendo about me. She couldn’t remember what exactly, as she was shocked he’d said it. I told her she was mistaken as he’s 87.

Then a few weeks later he said “I’d have a go at you if you weren’t married” I’m 56!!! I was so shocked, but pretended I hadn’t heard. The week after he’d changed his car, and when I asked how he was getting on with it he told me it was great and he’d ‘Have to get me on the back seat’ Enlightening me with “I’m a fully functioning man in all areas” and going on to ask me “What do you think of that program Naked attraction?” Urgh…..I wanted to vomit 🤮

This has absolutely disgusted me and made my skin crawl. It’s actually saddened me too, as I really thought he genuinely enjoyed having a chat to me, when actually…I mean WTAF????? Then even worse!! My DD (aged 18) said he’d been all flirty with her after she put his bin out FFS 😡😡😡 What the hell?

OP posts:
DonnaGiovanna · 14/10/2024 10:32

Sounds like Jimmy Savile, steer clear.

Roundthemoon · 14/10/2024 10:32

TimPat · 14/10/2024 10:25

The first man I can remember being sexually harrassed by was a neighbour in his 80's who my mum thought was lonely and harmless and she would help with his shopping etc. I was 11.

Exactly!

Adults put teenagers and children in harms way by saying that these men are "lonely and harmless"

Just because he's old doenst make him lonely and harmless. He's a person like everyone else.

He could be a nice man that's grown old, or he could have been a paedophile when he was young, that has now grown old, amd still likes young girls.

People are individuals.

Age does not make everyone "harmless and lonely".

Westfacing · 14/10/2024 10:33

In my experience of nursing elderly men, those who make vulgar comments as a result of dementia do so loudly and in front of anyone, no inhibitions - as opposed to the OP's neighbour who I doubt says such things in front of her husband, or male neighbours.

Roundthemoon · 14/10/2024 10:38

You can't just say that everyone who is old is harmless. Bad people are bad people.

Would we have said that jimmy Saville was a harmless old man.

Sadly people did at the time.

BCBird · 14/10/2024 10:42

Cut any contact. I think sometimes as some people get older they think they can say what they please. Vile

BlueTongueSkink · 14/10/2024 10:50

I used to work in a supermarket and an elderly chap came in quite regularly. He was always asking me and the other girls (we were all about 16 or 17 years old) to come and 'visit' him at his house. We never did obviously!

ClickClickety · 14/10/2024 10:52

Prettydisgustedactually · 13/10/2024 23:56

Tbh I really did think she was being silly! I mean come on…at 87!!! Maybe you’re right, but I was thinking more grandad than sex pest at this point! Absolutely zero inclination he was like this.

I hope you apologised to your daughter for dismissing her.

This sort of situation requires a man (DH, brother etc.) to go round to his and set him straight that he's not to talk to you or the girls again.

StellaZine · 14/10/2024 11:06

@Roundthemoon

Yes, absolutely. And the worst thing is how accepted it was within the family. My parents would often say, “try to never be on your own with <uncle>” and even “don’t be letting him hug you”. I heard my dad shouting at him “I don’t want you hugging my kids!” once so they were well aware of it.

LoveKay · 14/10/2024 11:06

We've just lost two really good cleaners because 92 year old FIL has made inappropriate sexual comments to them. Apparently, he's always "had an eye for the ladies", in other words he's a dirty, disgusting pervert. He has a lady friend in her 80s and I thought she'd be horrified but she just shrugged it off as if it was just a bit of a joke. The cleaners were very upset and I reported him to social services (I have regular contact with social services for unconnected reasons) and they said it's now a safeguarding issue and we have to warn all carers, cleaners etc about him. I was horrified when I warned his carers and they said they are used to it and that they are subjected to it all the time from elderly men!

Sjdjb · 14/10/2024 11:11

An elderly man in the library started chatting with me and my DD in the children’s section. He said she had ‘Come to bed eyes’ and would make some chap very happy.
She was 3.

Roundthemoon · 14/10/2024 11:11

I saw an old man describe his ten year old granddaughter as "sexy"

Roundthemoon · 14/10/2024 11:13

He said it in front of the child's mother, and the mother never said anything.

He said "doesn't she look sexy in those glasses!" About a ten year old.

I said "she looks clever in those glases"

LBFseBrom · 14/10/2024 11:16

Yes, some are and some are not.

Alwaystired23 · 14/10/2024 11:22

Well, yes, it was a bit ageist to assume he was going to be incapable of living his life without help just because of his age. But he sounds like a pest, to be honest. I don't think it's his age, probably his personality. I'm a nurse. Lots of our older patients are nice and respectful towards us. But there are the odd ones who like to push the boundaries. I remember a few years ago, one of them told me he'd get arrested for the dreams he has "about us nurses." He was an older man in his 80s.

Roundthemoon · 14/10/2024 11:24

My friend works as a home help carer. She said she went round to one old man's house.

He sexually harassed her and patted her bum. She said "don't ever talk to me like that again or ever touch me again".

He said "well at least you stood up for yourself, most of the girls that come round here say nothing when I do it to them"

BlackStrayCat · 14/10/2024 11:27

SallyWD · 14/10/2024 08:15

I lived in Spain as an au-pair in my teens. Quite a few very old men came onto to me and asked me to have sex. These were men who looked like such sweet old grandpas! The same thing happened when I went on an exchange to Spain as a 14 year old. The granddad of the girl I was staying with got me alone, told me I had a beautiful body and started groping and snogging me!
It made me realise that British old men must feel the same way but just know to keep quiet about their desires.

I now live in Spain. I am early 50s. DD 16.

Spanish old men are honestly vile and the most sexist you can imagine. They also totally disrespect women. Violence against women is a very serious issue here. As soon as divorce was made legal the women all divorced the men.

Me included. They have all discovered onlyfans now.

OBVIOUSLY NOT ALL but it it a big issue

AlexaSetATimer · 14/10/2024 11:37

DontBother123 · 14/10/2024 00:17

I think you’ve been incredibly naive with your grandad idea. Put a stop to the gardening and lunches and Ffs listen to your daughter next time she says she feels uncomfortable.

If he can do your gardening he can put his own bin out.

I agree.

I have 2 friends who work as carers, one in an old folks home and one as a home carer. They both have many many tales to tell of old leaches trying to pat their bums, look down their tops, making disgusting remarks.

Some men are just gross sexist pigs their entire lives.

LoveKay · 14/10/2024 11:37

What annoys me, is that we are constantly being told by the media, Age Concern etc to check up on elderly neighbours/family members etc especially during the Winter months, but if you come onto mumsnet and start mentioning people in an age related way eg. assuming they'll need help as they are older, you get accused of being "ageist".

OrlandointheWilderness · 14/10/2024 11:39

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 13/10/2024 23:48

I have quite a few elderly men on my road and none of them behave like this. He's proof that sex pests grow old. Who he was at 25 and 45 is who he is now. He's just a dirtbag.
I'd give him the biggest, coldest swerve without a second thought. He's gross. No wonder his 60-something year old on-offer is mostly off and running.

Just this! I don't know why people expect old people to be sweet and nice - they are exactly as they have always been, just older!

AlexaSetATimer · 14/10/2024 11:40

sprigatito · 14/10/2024 00:34

This thread is horrible. My 84yo dad lives with me and isn't like this at all, he's gentle, respectful and decent. Sorry to be the NAMALT bore, and of course there are elderly perverts and predators, but the blanket ageism on this thread is very uncomfortable reading Sad

My Dad isn't either, and I agree namalt, but I think we have to acknowledge that some are, at ANY age, and no one should be putting teenage girls at risk of their awful behaviour.

twilightcafe · 14/10/2024 11:43

You owe your daughter an apology.

Do not ever put up with this nonsense from your neighbour - if not for you, then at least stand up for your child who has TOLD YOU what this old man is all about.

Filthy pervert - of course he's delighted to pop round and do chores. Needs a hosepipe turned on him.

AlexaSetATimer · 14/10/2024 11:44

TeamPlaying · 14/10/2024 08:10

Honestly, I think there’s a lot of ageist naivety about older people. Older people are just younger people who grew old! They’re nice, nasty, generous, vile, vulnerable, predatory, just like everyone else.

Exactly. Personalities don't change that much as we age (dementia excepted of course)

Westfacing · 14/10/2024 11:47

Needs a hosepipe turned on him.

Grin
NPET · 14/10/2024 11:47

I'm 20 and I've had 80 year old guys hit on me ("your curves Sian are just TOO distracting"). I know it's not acceptable but it seems to be a fact of life.

BlackStrayCat · 14/10/2024 11:53

I think older men definitely are worse. By old I mean properly old.
Completely generational.

Ageism on MN is more like when a group of 50 somethings were called elderly once!