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Help! 71 year old Husband not coping with retirement (and taking it out on me!)

207 replies

Char65 · 05/09/2023 09:06

I’ve not posted on here before but have heard of Mumsnet so looked it up on the internet (and have tried to learn what all the numerous abbreviations mean!) as I need some much-needed advice about my marriage, and I don’t really want to talk to any of my friends as they all know my DH! I married DH in 1990 when I was 25 and he was 38 and amazingly we have been together 33 years! The time has just flown by! We have four wonderful children, two boys and two girls. He had a very high-powered job in the City of London so earnt a lot of money and he also inherited a lot of money too and had a lot of investments and property. My own background was a lot more modest, and I liked the fact I didn’t need to work and could just be a SAHM and look after all the domestic stuff which I did well and enjoyed. We had some domestic help too, so I was able to shop, do the “ladies who lunch” thing, go to the theatre and to the gym and do all the hair and beauty stuff because of course I was a Trophy Wife (although I didn’t even know what that meant when I married!). We lived in a couple of houses around London and now live in lovely seven bed house in the Home Counties – I even have my own dressing room! Over the years we have had some great family holidays and mini breaks and social occasions at our house and all in all things have been pretty good and we’ve wanted for nothing. The children all went to private schools but didn’t board so were home all the time which I loved. When DH was about often he was working (he had an office in our house years prior to the pandemic) or playing golf but we’d socialise a lot and I’d get glammed up for some black tie event or to go for a meal or functions with our friends or his colleagues which I loved. Then in 2018 he finally retired! Great I thought at last I’ve got him all to myself! Long walks in the country with our dog, lots of holidays (we have a villa in Spain), visits to National Trust properties etc, etc. It all started fantastically well and we went on an unforgettable three month world cruise and then of course the pandemic happened and lockdown which caused a lot of friction between DH and me. By then our oldest son was married and our two daughters had finished Uni and college and had jobs and were living with their boyfriends so it was just the youngest DS at home who annoyed DH as he dropped out of Uni (he got fed up with studying online) and had no job. When we came out of the pandemic DH continued to pick holes in me and tell me off for small things I had apparently done or not done around the house which wasn’t helped by youngest DS who sat in his room all day playing computer games and made no move to do anything (although I have just got him onto a computer course at a local college so that may help). DH has always been quite serious and old-fashioned and everything’s a bit “my way or the highway” with him so he can be a bit difficult to live with but when he was working he liked the fact that everything ran smoothly at home and he could just come in and put his feet up, relax and let me take care of everything but that’s all changed. I try to suggest things, but he doesn’t like gardening (we employ a gardener), he doesn’t like DIY and never does it, he doesn’t like reading fiction and we don’t have the same interests in terms of things like the theatre which I love and there’s only so much golf he can play! He did look at becoming a magistrate but is too old. DH’s job was very stressful, he worked very hard and long hours and he went abroad a lot so a lot of the time I was like a very well-off single mum so I know I’m also partly to blame as my routines have changed and I really miss running around after the children. I love him so so much and can’t imagine life without him so what I can do to support him? I fear I am losing him and he doesn’t love me anymore! Our eldest DS’s wife is expecting a baby (our first grandchild) in October and she plans to go back to work part time in the New Year and leave her with us 3 or 4 days a week (we live quite close by) and although I’m really looking forward to it and am preparing a little nursey I’m not sure how it is going to go down with DH whose already like a bear with a sore head without a screaming baby to further annoy him! Any advice would be much appreciated!

OP posts:
DisforDarkChocolate · 05/09/2023 09:11

Why doesn't he go back to work? Many people his age are still very active with NED level roles.

TeenDivided · 05/09/2023 09:11

That was quite long, I skimmed the first half.

He needs a hobby that gives him structure and purpose. A choir, model boat sailing, U3A, train spotting, genealogy, anything really.

3 or 4 days a week is a lot of childcare!

Berlinlover · 05/09/2023 09:12

Your post needs paragraphs.

PosterBoy · 05/09/2023 09:16

A lot of high powered men struggle with retirement. I don't really know what the solution is - the happiest ones either keep working or develop a high powered hobby instead. Can't he sit on a few charity boards, for example? Otherwise they often have a few affairs to keep busy - not ideal.

Really that's up to him to sort out though.

Best perhaps to develop your own hobbies and interests so you are busy - a bit like a job of your own - and you still meet up in the evenings.

What were your joint dreams of retirement when you were younger?

AuntieStella · 05/09/2023 09:16

Yes, he needs to be on the boards of a few charities

It's a well-trodden route for people retiring from the City - rather begs the question why this has not come about spontaneously? Is he not liked?

You don't seem to like him very much either, tbh.

PickAPark · 05/09/2023 09:16

Well I read your post perfectly easily so ignore the "you need paragraphs" mob.

NED roles, local politics, volunteering. He needs something to get him out of the house. Especially with a baby on the way.

PS does he want to travel? That'll be hard if you over-commit with the grandchildren...

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 05/09/2023 09:16

I was like a very well-off single mum

This is such an insensitive comment. You've had an absoloutley charmed time of it, and whilst you have done the bulk of the house and childcare, you've had a husband there to provide for all of that and for company.

Also, does your son and DIL know you are preparing a nursery for their baby in your home? That's so weird.

Gettingbysomehow · 05/09/2023 09:18

I'd be biting his head off. I haven't got time for grumpy men. Or men really.

OhComeOnFFS · 05/09/2023 09:23

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz If she's looking after the baby a few days a week then of course she'll have a nursery for the baby. You'd expect a childminder to have that.

MMmomDD · 05/09/2023 09:23

My pov:
Its not your job to ‘help’ your H not to be a grumpy old man. He needs ti do it on his own.
He worked a long time; and lead a typical life of professional man/stay at home W. This was your arrangement and both of you agreed to and fulfilled that role.
Doesnt give him a right to take his frustration in retirement on you.

Your house is certainly big enough for you to take care of your grand child. And if H doesnt like the crying - then he can get out of the house and cultivate a hobby or make friends. Etc.

As to your youngest child - I am probably
with your H in a genera sense - if not the style of expressing it.

It is not doing your son any good to pander to his idleness and entitlement.

Partially - its probably you holding on to still ‘having a child at home’ phase. But - best thing you can do is to stop just paying for him to sit at home and play games.
Its time.

SophiaElise · 05/09/2023 09:29

Welcome to mumsnet! Crikey, this place can be so unwelcoming...

Agree with others - he needs to find voluntary or part time work to give his week some structure. He may well take to hands-on grandparenting, though I won't hold my breath.

DeliveranceBoy · 05/09/2023 09:30

I'm older than your hubby and been retired since 2010. You can't beat it! Don't put up with any of his nonsense. If he can't hack retirement, I don't know how the hell he managed in a job! Get him started on some physical activity - swimming, pilates, yoga, walking etc. Tell him you want to see a six-pack or you're leaving.

Iwantyourloveiwantyourspirit · 05/09/2023 09:30

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz fgs she's going to be caring for her grandchild for 3 or 4 days a week, of course it makes sense to have a nursery. What an odd post

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 05/09/2023 09:31

OhComeOnFFS · 05/09/2023 09:23

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz If she's looking after the baby a few days a week then of course she'll have a nursery for the baby. You'd expect a childminder to have that.

I wouldn't. Our childminder the babies sleep either in their strollers or a travel cot in a space in or just off the main room she uses for childminding so they are visible to her (not tucked away in basically a bedroom!)

I've never heard of a childminder having a separate nursery set up! And we visited a fair few and have friends use them.

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/09/2023 09:32

Can he take on consultancies?

TheSkull · 05/09/2023 09:35

I thought your post was beautifully written OP despite the paragraph business.
Bet you feel like telling him to bugger off out the house or cheer up. Some people like working and struggle with the lack of routine in retirement. Can he join a gym?

Upsizer · 05/09/2023 09:37

This is pretty awful! I’m very sorry for you actually. Would he go to couples counselling to talk things through? Would you consider separating? Especially if you have the resources for two homes. You need to communicate about how life is going to work for you both. He sounds pretty awful to you - like he’s basically managing you now that no one else is available!

Branster · 05/09/2023 09:40

Maybe he could take up a new sport on a regular basis: sailing, rowing, tennis, archery, chess, squash. If his health is OK, he could try any thing.
Become a collector (classic cars, motorbikes?)
Open a small local shop selling anything you want you could both run together?
Consultancy work of some kind?
It really is not your job to direct him on what to do. He's a grown man, clearly with a lot of work experience and possibly intelligence. Leave him to it.
(Not exactly) Ideally, if he gets a mistress he'd be in a good mood and keep out of your way.

ApolloandDaphne · 05/09/2023 09:41

My DH has a similar type job and plans to retire in 2 years. He knows he will struggle with the lack of structure to his day and not having constant work pressure. He had thought about taking a few non exec roles but he has one as part of his job now and it is too structured in terms of dates and the amount of pre board work needed so he is now thinking of taking short term consultancy roles as and when he wants to (his skills are very sought after). He may also look into mentoring at the local uni. Could you suggest some things like that to your DH? Other than that he needs to get some hobbies or do some courses to keep his brain occupied.

spitefulandbadgrammar · 05/09/2023 09:42

Pack him off to the Spanish villa and enjoy your life. You can’t make him not be a grumpy arse.

Toddlerteaplease · 05/09/2023 09:44

Do you want to do that amount of childcare for your grandchildren? You can say no.

Bigsurly · 05/09/2023 09:46

What can you do to "support" him?

You've cast yourself in the role of family fixer. You can't give people purpose, they need to find it for themselves.

CapEBarra · 05/09/2023 09:48

Parish council is chock full of people like him - district/county if he has the appetite for it. Appeal to his ‘man of power can get things done’ person.

justcantgetenough · 05/09/2023 09:51

He needs to find a hobby or volunteer. Many sports, walking footballl, bowls, croquet, tennis , paddleboarding, swimming, available to him? Join the u3a, men in sheds (age uk). Volunteer at ageuk (guided walks) the canal trust, looking after the canals or locks. Model railways.

Obviously depends on where you live and what's available, many volunteer opportunities at tourist attractions etc, or help at charities

Either taking up a hobby or volunteer will give him purpose.

gamerchick · 05/09/2023 09:52

This is one of my fears when husband retires. He's a fair bit older than me and needs structure in his life.

So I'm handing over the house and life admin completely to him and going full time at work. Can't wait Grin

You need to have a come to Jesus conversation with your husband and finding something he finds fulfilling to do because his attitude sucks a bit.