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Am I being selfish to not lose weight for my husband?

683 replies

Boo123456 · 12/06/2022 19:42

My husband keeps saying that 'we' need to lose weight to become attracted to each other again to save our relationship. For the record I have never once said I don't find him attractive. I still do but apparently he doesn't find me attractive enough to initiate sex. He said he can't live in a sexless marriage. I am a UK size 18 and pretty sure plenty of men would have sex with me looking like I do. We have a 4 year old daughter and I do most of the looking after so I don't find it easy to find time to look after myself. Am I being selfish by not losing weight?

OP posts:
Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:13

Many a slim bride?

Just women huh? Not many a slim groom?

People aren't attracted to slim because it's healthy. They're conditioned to by all the messages around us telling us its more attractive. It has nothing to do with health. You can be slim and completely unhealthy

autienotnaughty · 13/06/2022 09:15

If course you shouldn't lose weight for someone else. And your dh should love you for you. But if he doesn't find you attractive anymore he may choose to leave the relationship. So it depends on how you feel about that really.

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:15

@Glitteratitar

Why on earth would you have sex just to go through the motions?!

VWBZ · 13/06/2022 09:16

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:13

Many a slim bride?

Just women huh? Not many a slim groom?

People aren't attracted to slim because it's healthy. They're conditioned to by all the messages around us telling us its more attractive. It has nothing to do with health. You can be slim and completely unhealthy

Of course healthiness is attractive.

Hariboqueen1 · 13/06/2022 09:18

I dont think your husband has done anything wrong. He cant help how he feels. Being sexually attracted to someone does not corelate to loving someone. People who are saying hes out of order, what is he meant to do just not say anything? He will still feel like that inside just lying on the outside.

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:19

@VWBZ

How do you know someone is healthy?

SantiMakesMeLaugh · 13/06/2022 09:20

If he is saying WE need to loose weight, what is he doing to loose weight himself?

If he is convinced that you need to loose weight and it’s important/essential to him, what is he doing to help you loose weight? As in has he proposed to look after dc to you can cook healthier meals, go to the gym, see a nutritionist for guidance? What is he actually doing?

Or does he mean, ‘I am not attracted to you anymore but I don’t dare saying it like this so I’ll say it’s your fault for having put weight on’ (regardless or not of the fact he might have put weight on himself, he isn’t adonis etc etc)

NotKevinTurvey · 13/06/2022 09:21

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:13

Many a slim bride?

Just women huh? Not many a slim groom?

People aren't attracted to slim because it's healthy. They're conditioned to by all the messages around us telling us its more attractive. It has nothing to do with health. You can be slim and completely unhealthy

Weight and attractiveness has nothing to do with health?

Rubbish.

The body positivity movement has so much to answer for. Someone who is size eighteen is putting their health at risk no matter what else they are doing. They are at increased risk if diabetes, stroke, heart attack and joint problems compared to someone who’s a healthy weight. They are also going to need to be showering twice a day if they aren’t going to have hygiene issues too, another thing which is not pleasant for a partner.

CaptSkippy · 13/06/2022 09:25

VWBZ · 13/06/2022 09:16

Of course healthiness is attractive.

This is such BS. You can't see "health" 99% of the time. How do you know that slim person with "perfect" skin and hair is healthy? There are so many conditions that don't manifest on the outside.

If we could see "health" what need would we still have for doctors? Anyone could diagnose anything just by looking at someone.

When I was at my skinniest (not even underweight) and people told me I looked great, I was also at my least healthiest. Why? Because I was dealing with horrendous anemia, which apart from being somewhat pale people can't see. I had no energy and I was miserable. But people didn't care, because I looked "healthy" and they found it attractive.

StaunchMomma · 13/06/2022 09:25

I'd have to let mine go if he was this shallow, I'm afraid.

I'm willing to bet he doesn't exactly look like a Men's Health cover model himself.

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:29

@NotKevinTurvey

What?

Why would someone a size 18 need to shower twice a day?!

Overweight people are at higher risk of being unhealthy. But thats not why some people find them less attractive.

Attraction is subjective and not related health. Folk just use it as an excuse for their bias

SantiMakesMeLaugh · 13/06/2022 09:30

Hariboqueen1 · 13/06/2022 09:18

I dont think your husband has done anything wrong. He cant help how he feels. Being sexually attracted to someone does not corelate to loving someone. People who are saying hes out of order, what is he meant to do just not say anything? He will still feel like that inside just lying on the outside.

There is a difference between recognising that YOU have an issue with your dwife having put weight on and making her RESPONSIBLE for the fact you are not attracted to her anymore.

The fact he isn’t attracted to her is HIS issue, not the OP.
Im sure that he has changed too in that same time. He hasn’t given birth. He isn’t short of time to look after himself (see comment about not having for herself). Accepting that your partner will change with time is part if growing old together.

Fwiw telling someone they have to loose weight because they are not attractive anymore and they would be responsible for the marriage breaking up is the best way to ensure that the person rebels and tells you to fuck off.
(Or you’ve made them feel so guilty that they will make the effort etc… and then you have destroyed the marriage anyway by destroying her self esteem and using controlling tactics to get what you want)

SleeplessInEngland · 13/06/2022 09:31

Probably not a popular opinion but I do think that, within reason, both sides of a couple should try to stay in ok shape for the sake of the other. So I guess my question is: is he doing that too if he expects it of you?

AllAloneInThisHouse · 13/06/2022 09:32

Mount2Climb · 13/06/2022 06:10

Ah the usual santimonious thinly veiled "but what about your health and being a role model" responses.

Firstly, Your DH should help you more with your DC regardless of what you do with that time because she is his child!

I don't think you are selfish not to lose weight and to be honest, even if I lost weight for my husband after such a conversation with him, I don't think I would ever be attracted to him again. Something would have been irrevocably broken. And that would be my prerogative same as it's his not to find me attractive at a bigger size.

He is entitled to not want sex if he isn't attracted and he is entitled to his opinion and feelings around size but equally you are entitled to do what the fuck you want with your body and life.

@SarahAndQuack I think the age comparison is actually excellent because there absolutely are men who do just that: despite botox, surgeries and the best diet and self care they go off to marry a younger woman when the first gets too old. That too is down to attraction.

For some men their taste in age groups will broaden as they grow older... but that can also be broadening the size and body weight range they find attractive. We've all seen pervy 60 year olds still eyeing up teenagers and early twenties and that's just the ones we noticed/caught. How many more secretly and not so secretly also desire a specific age? The fact we have more control over weight than aging doesn't mean that sexual attraction can't also be lost due to aging. We just try not to think about that too much because we can't help aging and we hope our partners have developed enough of a bond with us to stay in the relationship.

OP: I don't think it's selfish not to lose weight for your husband because if you have not got yourself to a healthy weight for your own sake and comfort you likely are in such a bad place the last thing you need is more blame, guilt and shame. But I know some of MNers think shaming is an excellent way to motivate... hence the bad mother insinuations.

op listen to your own feelings on this one and do what you want to do for your own sake. Not for your daughter or your husband but for you. If it were me I'd make him take more responsibilities at home and with our DC and use that time to look after my mental and physical wellbeing and I would see if I still wanted to be with him: the odds are that I wouldn't ever want sex with him again either.

Very good post, well said.
Also love the way you saw through the bullshit of ’caring about health’.

NotKevinTurvey · 13/06/2022 09:33

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:29

@NotKevinTurvey

What?

Why would someone a size 18 need to shower twice a day?!

Overweight people are at higher risk of being unhealthy. But thats not why some people find them less attractive.

Attraction is subjective and not related health. Folk just use it as an excuse for their bias

We’ve been seeking out healthy mates for hundreds of millions of years. To pretend that this has stopped because Cosmopolitan features some obese models is not tenable.

VWBZ · 13/06/2022 09:33

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:19

@VWBZ

How do you know someone is healthy?

Of course you don't know if someone is 100% healthy but most people who do a
physical hobby, who like walking, gardening, DIY are mostly not going to be overweight and I find that attractive.

You can't help who you find attractive. To say that we have made to find slim people attractive and it is not our preference is rubbish.

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:37

@VWBZ

Of course we have been.

What is considered attractive changes all the time.

Its why fashion is a thing. And why different cultures find different things attractive

I know loads of overweight people with physical jobs and hobbies

I think people deep down know how shallow it is to base attractiveness on weight so they try to justify it by saying they care about health when they don't.

If you dont find fat attractive, thats fine. That's your own preference. You dont need to justify it.

CaptSkippy · 13/06/2022 09:38

NotKevinTurvey · 13/06/2022 09:33

We’ve been seeking out healthy mates for hundreds of millions of years. To pretend that this has stopped because Cosmopolitan features some obese models is not tenable.

Because women with their ribs sticking out, impants, toxins in and on their skin and their body numb in places from scar tissue from all the surgery they've had is so "healthy"?

Or alternatively, a thirteen year old dressed up as an older, sexy woman and we pretend that looking like that in your twenties and thirties, when your body is fully developed, is at all realistic.

Glitteratitar · 13/06/2022 09:38

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:15

@Glitteratitar

Why on earth would you have sex just to go through the motions?!

Because I didn’t have the confidence to tell my husband I now find him unattractive after the weight gain and don’t want to have sex with him. There’s only so many “I’m really tired tonight” excuses I could use before he would have realised I don’t want to have sex with him, and I didn’t want to tell him I find him unattractive.

VWBZ · 13/06/2022 09:40

My Dad got overweight and ended up having a stent fitted as he nearly had a heart attack. He's now a lot healthier since he lost weight and changed his lifestyle. Same as my Uncle who got diabetes and lost weight to keep it under control.

rnsaslkih · 13/06/2022 09:40

looks like he is preparing excuses/reasons to have an affair

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:41

@Glitteratitar

Youre lying to him and letting him think you want sex when you don't

Thats much worse. No one should want sex with someone who doesn't want it/ is just going through the motions

Topgub · 13/06/2022 09:42

The idea that most men care about health when they say they don't find overweight women attractive is ridiculous

VWBZ · 13/06/2022 09:42

CaptSkippy · 13/06/2022 09:38

Because women with their ribs sticking out, impants, toxins in and on their skin and their body numb in places from scar tissue from all the surgery they've had is so "healthy"?

Or alternatively, a thirteen year old dressed up as an older, sexy woman and we pretend that looking like that in your twenties and thirties, when your body is fully developed, is at all realistic.

I don't like any of that. I'm talking natural.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 13/06/2022 09:43

If you dont find fat attractive, thats fine. That's your own preference. You dont need to justify it.

Exactly it's a preference. It's not fat phobic to have that preference.