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Am I being selfish to not lose weight for my husband?

683 replies

Boo123456 · 12/06/2022 19:42

My husband keeps saying that 'we' need to lose weight to become attracted to each other again to save our relationship. For the record I have never once said I don't find him attractive. I still do but apparently he doesn't find me attractive enough to initiate sex. He said he can't live in a sexless marriage. I am a UK size 18 and pretty sure plenty of men would have sex with me looking like I do. We have a 4 year old daughter and I do most of the looking after so I don't find it easy to find time to look after myself. Am I being selfish by not losing weight?

OP posts:
adriftabroad · 13/06/2022 12:18

HarryStottel · 13/06/2022 12:14

I don't think anyone can judge it as black and white as fat/overweight = unattractive.

I'm sure we can all think of celebrities or people in the public eye that are noticeably overweight but you still ' would' .

As a man, I'm much more likely to find a very slim/skinny woman sexually unattractive than I would a size 18 + .

Thank you for your opinion.

You have not been incredibly rude. Just honest.

justasking111 · 13/06/2022 12:20

I wonder if this is a journalist looking for a story??

Rosehugger · 13/06/2022 12:24

What a depressing and pathetic thread, full of fucking shallow twats with fucking shit advice for the most part. I don't think AIBU is worth bothering with these days, it has been infiltrated by MRAs and their handmaidens and is thoroughly fucked up about weight and eating, but apparently now this has spread to Relationships.

OP, I suggest you print out the thread and burn it as a sort of catharsis.

5128gap · 13/06/2022 12:31

Rosehugger · 13/06/2022 12:24

What a depressing and pathetic thread, full of fucking shallow twats with fucking shit advice for the most part. I don't think AIBU is worth bothering with these days, it has been infiltrated by MRAs and their handmaidens and is thoroughly fucked up about weight and eating, but apparently now this has spread to Relationships.

OP, I suggest you print out the thread and burn it as a sort of catharsis.

Well what would be more helpful? Because people can sit on here all day long saying her H is shallow and her weight doesn't matter, but what difference is that going to make to her life? We're not the ones she wants sex with so it matters little either way.

adriftabroad · 13/06/2022 12:31

justasking111 · 13/06/2022 12:20

I wonder if this is a journalist looking for a story??

Yep, I thought so a while ago.

justasking111 · 13/06/2022 12:31

Rosehugger · 13/06/2022 12:24

What a depressing and pathetic thread, full of fucking shallow twats with fucking shit advice for the most part. I don't think AIBU is worth bothering with these days, it has been infiltrated by MRAs and their handmaidens and is thoroughly fucked up about weight and eating, but apparently now this has spread to Relationships.

OP, I suggest you print out the thread and burn it as a sort of catharsis.

What's an MRA??

CaptSkippy · 13/06/2022 12:35

Glitteratitar · 13/06/2022 10:15

Where does that expectation of change stop?

If you have a lazy husband who doesn’t take care of kids, expecting change is entitled.

Or a husband who doesn’t work and a couple have to live on the breadline?

Or is it limited to situations where one person has already changed and the other is struggling with that change?

Child neglect is literally illegal. I wish we would start prosecuting men for not being proper parents.

As for everything else, you have divorce.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 13/06/2022 12:39

@justasking111 Mens rights activist. It's always thrown out by someone when a poster doesn't automatically think the man is in the wrong and agrees.

justasking111 · 13/06/2022 12:43

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 13/06/2022 12:39

@justasking111 Mens rights activist. It's always thrown out by someone when a poster doesn't automatically think the man is in the wrong and agrees.

Thanks 👍

youcantparktheresir · 13/06/2022 12:45

DecayedStrumpet · 13/06/2022 10:59

No, a size 18 isn't necessarily obese, I'm 5'7 and hit size 18 at around 13 stone which is a 29 BMI.

According to the calculator though you're right it's not obese. It's at the obese end of overweight though.

Calculators don't into account a lot of factors though and a lot of the time they are way out.

GreyCarpet · 13/06/2022 12:46

Rosehugger · 13/06/2022 12:24

What a depressing and pathetic thread, full of fucking shallow twats with fucking shit advice for the most part. I don't think AIBU is worth bothering with these days, it has been infiltrated by MRAs and their handmaidens and is thoroughly fucked up about weight and eating, but apparently now this has spread to Relationships.

OP, I suggest you print out the thread and burn it as a sort of catharsis.

Or just people with opinions that differ from yours?

NotKevinTurvey · 13/06/2022 12:51

Topgub · 13/06/2022 12:14

@NotKevinTurvey

Being incredibly rude about overweight people isn't make you appear attractive, thats for sure

Pointing out the effects of obesity isn’t rude.

People trying to pass of being massively overweight as not an issue on the other hand need to have a word with themselves. It’s so selfish.

5128gap · 13/06/2022 12:51

youcantparktheresir · 13/06/2022 12:45

According to the calculator though you're right it's not obese. It's at the obese end of overweight though.

Calculators don't into account a lot of factors though and a lot of the time they are way out.

BMI is less important than waist size really as where the weight is carried is the biggest health risk. If you're a size 18 because your waist is 34" your health is going to be more impacted than if you've a smaller waist but need an 18 to accommodate your hips. Apple shaped women typically need a lower BMI to avoid health risk than pears.

FOTB · 13/06/2022 12:58

5128gap · 13/06/2022 12:31

Well what would be more helpful? Because people can sit on here all day long saying her H is shallow and her weight doesn't matter, but what difference is that going to make to her life? We're not the ones she wants sex with so it matters little either way.

This. You might think that the OP's DH should be attracted to her regardless. We already know she thinks that.

But you cannot force sexual attraction. Physical attraction isn't logical and it's based on very distinct preferences that people form very early on in life.

Personally, I'm deliberately single right now, because if I land a man who finds me attractive at this whale-like weight, he's probably not going to be attracted to me when I lose it, and ultimately, I don't want to live like this. I want to be thinner.

You can find a partner at any weight... but you can't necessarily keep them after a significant decrease or increase.

Mwnci123 · 13/06/2022 13:02

AllAloneInThisHouse · 12/06/2022 22:32

Well, do you want to be married to someone who’s ’love’ is conditioned to yoir weight?

I don’t know how you feel about that, but I know I would just always have that knowing in my head that he’s going to leave if I’d gain weight again.
And that woul make me distance myself from him.

Love and wanting sex aren't the same thing.

me4real · 13/06/2022 13:05

It is possible. So is climbing mount everest doesn't mean its doable for most

@Topgub Anyone can physically lose weight. People go on about 'starvation mode' slowing down weight loss, but it doesn't make it impossible. Put in a situation with no access to food, sadly even Tess Holliday would eventually die.

Losing weight and keeping it off is hard, but achievable. No one has a set point where they're supposed to be, which is outside the healthy BMI range.

me4real · 13/06/2022 13:07

BMI is less important than waist size really as where the weight is carried is the biggest health risk.

Being an unhealthy BMI is unhealthy in and of itself. Abdominal adiposity 'just' makes it worse.

Topgub · 13/06/2022 13:10

@me4real

Another strawman

TortugaRumCakeQueen · 13/06/2022 13:11

I'm a size 16, and starting a new diet today.

I have been as small as a size 8 in the past, and every size in between 8 and 16.

There is absolutely no denying, that I look way more attractive at size 8, 10 or 12.

Once I get over a size 14, I get a pot belly and a double chin. To say otherwise would be for me to be in denial.

Most people look better at a healthy weight. To say otherwise is a bit disingenuous, I think. Or is perhaps burying ones head in the sand, because you want the biscuits, chocolates and wine.

I know I've buried my head for far too long. I'm going to be on a beach in September and have to lose some pounds.

Topgub · 13/06/2022 13:12

@TortugaRumCakeQueen

Why do you need to lose pounds to be on a beach?

5128gap · 13/06/2022 13:13

Ime, living with being overweight is much much harder than losing it and keeping it off. Partner preference aside, the increased comfort, confidence and wellbeing. The ease of buying clothes, coping with weather, moving about.
By far the hardest part is getting motivated. Once it kicks in, life just gets so much easier in pretty much every way.

Gunpowder · 13/06/2022 13:16

You definitely aren’t being selfish, and I think it’s unfair for your husband to make you feel unattractive or expect you to lose weight without stepping up and giving you time to exercise.

That said, my DH has put on about 3 stone since we met. He’s now overweight. (My weight has stayed the same) I worry about his health and we don’t sleep in the same bed as he snores so much. I would absolutely love him to lose weight for these reasons and when he goes to the gym and looks after himself I do find him more sexually attractive. So in that sense I don’t think your husband is being unreasonable - he just needs to be kinder about it and give you time and space to make changes if that’s what you want to do.

Stevie6 · 13/06/2022 13:18

3 years ago I went from 14/16 down to 8/10 and have maintained it, you have to want to do it for yourself though and be committed as it really is a forever lifestyle change.

Mwnci123 · 13/06/2022 13:18

SarahAndQuack · 12/06/2022 23:25

Well, I think he's expressed himself in an incredibly cowardly, manipulative and nasty way, so I lose sympathy with him over that.

It might be he means he doesn't find you attractive (though, it could also be, if he's gained some weight, he doesn't believe you find him attractive?). But he should be honest about it. If weight is a deal breaker for him, then the decent way to say it IMO is for him to say he feels a bit ashamed for being so superficial, but honestly, it is a deal breaker for him. We all have silly, trivial things that we can't get past; that's fine. So long as we acknowledge they're trivial.

What's not ok is to pretend it's really your issue, or a mutual issue.

I think you're being a bit harsh. It's a sensitive subject and I think it comes across as though he's trying to be careful of her feelings.

Topgub · 13/06/2022 13:21

@5128gap

The op is not morbidly obese.

I'm not sure at size 18 she'll struggle with any of those things