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lawyerbunny1978 · 01/05/2022 13:02

I would welcome advice, please. Please read, I'm at the end of my chain.

My OH has a son and daughter. Daughter (H) is 27 and lives in his flat with her friend. Son (T) is 18, about to take his A-levels and lives with ex-wife. I have a 4 and a 7 year old.

My OH and I met 2 1/2 years ago, when he was separating from ex-wife. She's fed all kinds of poison into the well, after she found out about me but that's OT and I am clear that I was nothing to do with their marriage ending.

T and H won't meet me. They have consistently refused to, saying they needed 'time to adjust', then 'we need to build back our relationship with you, Dad, then we'll see', but ignoring me throughout, wanting their 'old Dad' back. They set curfew times for him for 5 months, so he had to be home by 6pm, so he could see me in the day in lockdown, to help with my childcare, but nothing more. Today, they're still 'emotionally unready', so I can't meet them, can't meet his parents etc.

The ex wife has conveyed many messages of 'you're a nobody, you don't exist for us'. I can tune her out, though that's been hurtful, but we're now 2.5 years in and I am in therapy, on anti-depressants, you name it.

My question is around this Summer. Without being specific, we are both into a big hobby scene that involves public events at a big level. Huge investment of time, lots of effort and you're literally on display and people come out to see you. Let's pretend it's top level eventing, Badminton time (it isn't!).

I have enjoyed this hobby for decades, before and after children, well before I met OH. It's obviously become a large part of our social life now, with mutual friends. OH has the kit. T has grown up around it. H isn't interested, but protective of T.

T and ex-wife have, to me, weoponised this hobby, tried to keep me out of what's 'theirs' as they see it. With lockdowns, and few events happening, we've got away with it for 2 years, but the chips are down this year. Last year OH and I felt solid, he was standing up to them and expecting them to join in to our world together, or be adults and opt out with respect for OH and me.

This year, he's doing the opposite. Saying to T he can have his 'exclusive' time with Daddy and asking me to be 'magnanimous' and drop out. I would gladly do that to give them space, believe me. But for T that means me not attending any events at all. I can't be on the same field, or he won't go. I can't go as public, camping miles away and won't see him, if he knows I'm going to be there, as I've done for 15+ years, he won't attend .

By way of example, at the end of May we're due to attend an event. I will help on all the set-up, but am then asked to say away for the next 3 days. I am told that I can't take my kids along for an ice cream for 30 minutes, because if I do, T won't go at all, because of his 'emotions'.

My children have grown up in this world, too. I have many friends that I won't see, if I don't go. I know this isn't right, OH knows it isn't right. I'm faced with turning my back on a hugely important part of my and my children's life, to save a relationship I'm not even sure is worth it, if I'm treated like this.

Any advice and comment appreciated, I really am at the end of my chain.

OP posts:
KangarooKenny · 01/05/2022 13:05

Why do you let them treat you like this ? Your partner is a wet blanket, I’d walk away.

HotDogKetchup · 01/05/2022 13:08

My advice would be to ditch your OH, who is allowing himself to be controlled and manipulated by both his children and his ex, then do whatever you want with your own time and kids.

Your OH is a puppet on a string and you’re getting drawn into it all. By extension, you’re allowing yourself to be dictated to and again, it’s extending to your kids.

Your OH hasn’t made himself available to an adult relationship.

notapizzaeater · 01/05/2022 13:10

You have a massive DH problem !

ExtraOnion · 01/05/2022 13:19

Fuck that … go where you want, when you want, with your children. If your partner and his kids can’t cope with that - that is their problem not yours.

Unless you are happy with his kids, his ex .. and him, behaving like this for the rest of your life, get out now.

sunlight81 · 01/05/2022 13:20

Ditch the OH, stop being emotionally blackmailed and standup for urself and your own kids!

Break up with ur OH and go to your events. Be happy and enjoy yourself and no doubt the right guy will come along!!

Ted27 · 01/05/2022 13:20

I wouldnt normall respond to these threads but please don’t give up something that was ‘yours’ before you met him, and is an inportant part of yours and your children’s life
Fine if he doesn’t want to see you, it sounds big enough to avoid him. But don’t deprive your children to pacify an extremely selfish adult.

SolasAnla · 01/05/2022 13:20

Both of his children are adults, he is allowed to decide that they get to control his life if he wants to. The two adult children are engaging in abusive control, if your partner recognises it for what it is he is being a poor parent. They will both continue use the same taticts to abuse a partner or any children they may have as they are learning that emotional abuse works.

His adult child has no right to dictate to you about your life choices. If his son chooses not to attend events which you attend he is free to make these choices. Your OH may choose to support that controlling behaviours, but I don't think you should support this and stop doing your hobby.

I believe the freedom program runs an online course designed for men as well women. You could recomend that he thinks about doing it.

Tothepoint99 · 01/05/2022 13:21

Walk away. Don't let your heart rule your head. There'll be someone else and you will get back to where you should be. I imagine you're completely lost in the anguish of it all, trying to find a solution to something that'll never be resolved. Too many characters and agendas.

SoggyPaper · 01/05/2022 13:29

It’s pretty much always a partner problem. He’s trying to stop you doing a long-standing activity that’s been a big part of your adult life long before you met him, on the basis that his 18 year old isn’t happy.

Ditch him, keep the hobby.

DailySheetWasher · 01/05/2022 13:36

Are you on antidepressants and in therapy because of this relationship? I think that's what I read, apologies if I've misunderstood.

That's ridiculous. If being with him is causing you actual psychological harm you need to get out!

MzHz · 01/05/2022 13:39

Rise up woman!
stop this idiot and his idiot kids dictating your life

dump him and do whatever the fuck you like as a hobby, where you want, when you want and if he finds it uncomfortable HE can be magnanimous and drop out.

he’s annoying the crap out of all of Mumsnet and you’re putting up with it.

stop this shit!

(((huge hug)))

ilovepixie · 01/05/2022 13:39

Dump the OH and go to the events with your kids.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 01/05/2022 13:42

Ditch him, keep the hobby

Well said!

OP, why are you even considering not going? It is a massively unreasonable request to make of you.

springbreak22 · 01/05/2022 13:43

This is ridiculous.

Your letting him, adult children abc ex dictate your life.

Thank you next...

Poppinjay · 01/05/2022 13:49

If you do this the future for you looks pretty bleak. You can't allow the remainder of your life to be control by his adult children.

You need to carry on with your life, including the hobby that benefits you and your DCs and he needs to decide whether he will be in a relationship with you while that is happening.

SpindleInTheWind · 01/05/2022 13:52

Please don't let your children grow up in this poisonous atmosphere, OP.

teacherorpreacher · 01/05/2022 13:53

Walk away now this second .your oh is a wimp. given a curfew?????? Told you that you cannot do your hobby puts his adult children's feelings before his and your feelings. No way should you put up with this you deserve to be treated 100% better. Please my lovely leave for your own happiness and your sanity, your children want a happy mummy not a broken mummy

AndAsIfByMagic · 01/05/2022 13:58

Ditch the man and keep the hobby. He children sound as vile as their mother.

You're better off out of their toxic lives.

BobLemon · 01/05/2022 14:04

Go. For fucks sake, go to the event.

XmasElf10 · 01/05/2022 14:09

They can fuck right off, that’s nuts! Go, do your hobby with your kids. DP can either like it or piss off.

Crazymumto1 · 01/05/2022 14:10

I honestly think no matter what you do it won’t make any difference at all. They will always have an excuse to not meet you etc. To be honest even if they ever did it wouldn’t be pleasant I imagine. You need to put yourself first and your kids, he wouldn’t do this for you, saying this with gentleness. Do what you want and if they don’t go that’s their problem not yours

nearlyspringyay · 01/05/2022 14:11

Just go to the event. They're bloody adults.

Inklingpot · 01/05/2022 14:16

Their behaviour is absolutely ludicrous and they have no right to make these demands of you. Tell him you’re going and that’s final. If that means an end to the relationship then so be it. You deserve better.

NarcissasMumintheDoghouse · 01/05/2022 14:18

This summer it is the events you're not allowed to go to. By the autumn it will be you're not allowed to go shopping in "their" town on days when they're going to be there.

By Christmas, they'll be refusing to let him go out shopping for Christmas presents for you.

H and T are behaving appallingly, but your OH is behaving even worse by expecting you to become invisible to facilitate his children's abuse of him and you. How dare he tell you that you cannot attend an event you are so invested in, just to make life easier for him!

Midlifemusings · 01/05/2022 14:19

It sounds like your DH should have built stronger relationships with his kids and been there more for them during the ending of the marriage, the separation, and the aftermath of the family breaking apart. His kids now have an expectation that if he wants a relationship with them, he needs to prioritize them as it seems he didn't do that before. Your DH's duty really is to his kids, one of whom was a teen throughout the last few years when this was all happening.

The timeline isn't clear from his kids perspective. When did dad move out to when did he meet you to when did his kids find out he was dating to when did he start spending all day with you and being there all day with your kids to when did you move in together etc. Maybe from their viewpoint this happened quickly. You aw you met while they were separating so it could appear to have overlapped.

From his teen's perspective it is possible he saw his dad deciding to spend days in lockdown with you and your kids while he actually needed his dad given his family had just crumbled.

You need to decide what is best for you and your kids. His kids can set boundaries about what they need from their relationship with their dad and you can set your own boundaries.

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