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lawyerbunny1978 · 01/05/2022 13:02

I would welcome advice, please. Please read, I'm at the end of my chain.

My OH has a son and daughter. Daughter (H) is 27 and lives in his flat with her friend. Son (T) is 18, about to take his A-levels and lives with ex-wife. I have a 4 and a 7 year old.

My OH and I met 2 1/2 years ago, when he was separating from ex-wife. She's fed all kinds of poison into the well, after she found out about me but that's OT and I am clear that I was nothing to do with their marriage ending.

T and H won't meet me. They have consistently refused to, saying they needed 'time to adjust', then 'we need to build back our relationship with you, Dad, then we'll see', but ignoring me throughout, wanting their 'old Dad' back. They set curfew times for him for 5 months, so he had to be home by 6pm, so he could see me in the day in lockdown, to help with my childcare, but nothing more. Today, they're still 'emotionally unready', so I can't meet them, can't meet his parents etc.

The ex wife has conveyed many messages of 'you're a nobody, you don't exist for us'. I can tune her out, though that's been hurtful, but we're now 2.5 years in and I am in therapy, on anti-depressants, you name it.

My question is around this Summer. Without being specific, we are both into a big hobby scene that involves public events at a big level. Huge investment of time, lots of effort and you're literally on display and people come out to see you. Let's pretend it's top level eventing, Badminton time (it isn't!).

I have enjoyed this hobby for decades, before and after children, well before I met OH. It's obviously become a large part of our social life now, with mutual friends. OH has the kit. T has grown up around it. H isn't interested, but protective of T.

T and ex-wife have, to me, weoponised this hobby, tried to keep me out of what's 'theirs' as they see it. With lockdowns, and few events happening, we've got away with it for 2 years, but the chips are down this year. Last year OH and I felt solid, he was standing up to them and expecting them to join in to our world together, or be adults and opt out with respect for OH and me.

This year, he's doing the opposite. Saying to T he can have his 'exclusive' time with Daddy and asking me to be 'magnanimous' and drop out. I would gladly do that to give them space, believe me. But for T that means me not attending any events at all. I can't be on the same field, or he won't go. I can't go as public, camping miles away and won't see him, if he knows I'm going to be there, as I've done for 15+ years, he won't attend .

By way of example, at the end of May we're due to attend an event. I will help on all the set-up, but am then asked to say away for the next 3 days. I am told that I can't take my kids along for an ice cream for 30 minutes, because if I do, T won't go at all, because of his 'emotions'.

My children have grown up in this world, too. I have many friends that I won't see, if I don't go. I know this isn't right, OH knows it isn't right. I'm faced with turning my back on a hugely important part of my and my children's life, to save a relationship I'm not even sure is worth it, if I'm treated like this.

Any advice and comment appreciated, I really am at the end of my chain.

OP posts:
SoggyPaper · 01/05/2022 15:09

CheshireCats · 01/05/2022 14:57

My god op, this is shocking!
You go to every event, you tell your partner you will be doing this and everything else you want to do regardless of his children's opinions and you tell him to grow a backbone and stop dancing to their tune.
If he is not able to do this, you leave him and keep up with your hobbies and stuff him!

And don’t hide away at the events either.

I cannot imagine what this relationship brings that could be positive enough to outweigh this stuff.

lisaandalan · 01/05/2022 15:14

I'd walk away from your partner, your children, your life, friends and hobby is much more important, your feelings are not important to these people, walk away and find someone who will stand up for you. Don't waste your life. X

AcrossthePond55 · 01/05/2022 15:16

If you put up with this shit from ALL of them (including OH), then you are a fool.

Having a 'passion' for a hobby/sport is a very lucky thing. Not everyone can find that one thing in their life that satisfies 'who they are'. This type of passion will be with you as long as you live and probably has and will carry you through a lot of hard times. My DH has such a passion. He started the sport at age 19. At age 66, it's still a passion and satisfies something within him. I would never and have never stuck my nose into his ability to enjoy it.

Your OH has a right to have whatever relationship he wants with his DC. What he does NOT have a right to do is to demand that it impinge on your rights to do the things you love. If he expects that of you then he doesn't truly love you as an equal. I'd bin him because it will be this way for the rest of your life. I would never agree to live half my life in a shadow, not able to do what or go where I want because of his desire to tiptoe around his children.

At this point I'd tell him that I was going to the event and participating to the full extent. If he wants to avoid me because his son is there, he can do so, but I'm not allowing his cowardice to rule my life..

Lilgamesh2 · 01/05/2022 15:18

His son is an entitled brat. Can't believe he thinks he has any right to dictate whether you and your children can pursue your hobbies! I was around that age when my mother started dating after my DF died and I welcomed her new partner with open arms because I wanted her to find happiness again. I can't imagine behaving in such a spoilt way.

unicornsarereal72 · 01/05/2022 15:21

So this relationship has you in therapy and on antidepressants and now you are faced with giving up the hobby you have done for years?

I think you need to reevaluate your situation. And remember the example you are setting your own children. Nothing should be this hard.

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 01/05/2022 15:31

Dum him and walk away. He sounds like he is utterly useless

Greyarea12 · 01/05/2022 15:34

This is terrible. I cannot beleive that his 27 year old daughter is involved in this. Are you on anti-depressants & in therapy solely down to this situation? If so you need to leave - it is not worth it! He is on a 'curfew' from his 18 year old adult son? The family sounds quite strange to be honest and you are better off out of it both socially (your hobby) & psychologically.

CrotchetyQuaver · 01/05/2022 15:34

You simply can't carry on like this, you need to walk away from this partner who sounds a complete drip letting his adult children walk all over him like that. You go where you like, when you like, and screw the lot of them. Oh and don't be embarrassed to tell others what was going on if they ask.

Mumoftwoinprimary · 01/05/2022 15:38

I’m faced with turning my back on a hugely important part of my and my children's life, to save a relationship I'm not even sure is worth it, if I'm treated like this.

You’ve summed it up well here. Why would you mess up your life and your childrens’ life to appease him and his kid.

I would start off with saying to your partner “don’t be ridiculous - this is an event I have gone to for years. I am going - you have three options - 1. Don’t come 2. End the relationship 3. Stand up to your ridiculous children. Call me when you have decided what you want to do.”

VeronicaBeccabunga · 01/05/2022 15:39

Can we please rally a huge MN posse to accompany you to this event, surround you like the entourage of some huge rock-star or Hollywood A-lister and fend off all and sundry fuckwittery?

I'm up for a slot on the rota, but please note that I don't do camping 😀

MrsDoctor · 01/05/2022 15:43

His children are both adults and behaving in a disgraceful way. Offer him the chance to stand up for you or leave him. You’re worth more than this!

DowntonCrabby · 01/05/2022 15:43
  1. Dump partner.
  2. Go to any event you wish.
  3. Ideally if it’s a competitive sport try and beat the fucking lot of them.
ittakes2 · 01/05/2022 15:44

Was there any point when you were writing OP that you thought - wow this man is walking all over me what am I doing with him?

Frogium · 01/05/2022 15:46

My ex's family did similar to me. We were young so no kids of ex, but his mum and sister pretty much. It won't get better OP, especially when you get to the stage of living together, getting married etc. Men like this don;t have the spine, and will just try to manage everyone rather than stand up for you. Dump him now and go to all the events.

MzHz · 01/05/2022 15:48

VeronicaBeccabunga · 01/05/2022 15:39

Can we please rally a huge MN posse to accompany you to this event, surround you like the entourage of some huge rock-star or Hollywood A-lister and fend off all and sundry fuckwittery?

I'm up for a slot on the rota, but please note that I don't do camping 😀

Love this!

also don’t do camping 😂😂

MajorCarolDanvers · 01/05/2022 15:52

You need to put your foot down or walk away.

saraclara · 01/05/2022 16:04

YOU matter
YOUR CHILDREN matter

This hobby, this event has been part of your life since well before you knew him. The event is part of your children's life.

Why are you prioritising his children instead of your own? Come on now, if you weren't so embroiled in this, and heard this dilemma from someone else, you'd tell them not to be ridiculous.

Tell him "I matter and my children matter, and we are not going to the back of the queue because of T. This is part of my life and my children's life and we're going"

It's down to him what happens next. If your children are of no importance to your partner, then this relationship doesn't stand a chance anyway.

Pinkyxx · 01/05/2022 16:05

If he was school age and you were insisting on coming to events at his school despite him wanting you not to, I'd get your DH saying bow out.

Here, the suggestion is you are not allowed to attend a public event in case this upsets him.

Utter tripe. Tell him you will be going and it's up to him what he does, similar for his son who may do well to learn he can't control who enters a public space.

SpindleInTheWind · 01/05/2022 16:07

VeronicaBeccabunga · 01/05/2022 15:39

Can we please rally a huge MN posse to accompany you to this event, surround you like the entourage of some huge rock-star or Hollywood A-lister and fend off all and sundry fuckwittery?

I'm up for a slot on the rota, but please note that I don't do camping 😀

I'll book us a suite at the nearest hotel, don't worry. With a bar.

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/05/2022 16:16

Lilgamesh2 · 01/05/2022 15:18

His son is an entitled brat. Can't believe he thinks he has any right to dictate whether you and your children can pursue your hobbies! I was around that age when my mother started dating after my DF died and I welcomed her new partner with open arms because I wanted her to find happiness again. I can't imagine behaving in such a spoilt way.

Agreed. My father also died. I was about that age when my widowed mother started dating. I look at the way some young adults act and think their behaviour is awful.

AcrossthePond55 · 01/05/2022 16:17

VeronicaBeccabunga · 01/05/2022 15:39

Can we please rally a huge MN posse to accompany you to this event, surround you like the entourage of some huge rock-star or Hollywood A-lister and fend off all and sundry fuckwittery?

I'm up for a slot on the rota, but please note that I don't do camping 😀

I DO do (caravan) camping and even my DH says that my 'over the top of my reading glasses Mum-glare' would put the fear of God into God himself. It's worked on our DC (and DH) for over 30 years now.

I'd be more than happy to employ it on OP's OH, his family, and anyone else she so chooses. I will ask for expenses though, so airfare from the US, transportation, and caravan rental will need to be paid. Any offers? No? Damn.

Pombearsforthewin · 01/05/2022 16:18

This will never ever improve. They have their father dangling like a puppet and he won’t make any attempt to cut those strings and will forever and a day be dancing to their tune. Please end this and find someone who is free to love and cherish you as an equal.

Mooloolabababy · 01/05/2022 16:18

Stand your ground op. Don't let them push you out of a hobby that you've been doing for years, just say no, that doesn't work for me.

Mellowyellow222 · 01/05/2022 16:27

I think it’s time to walk away.

Your boyfriend isn’t ready for a new relationship.

am I right you don’t live together and you haven’t met his children. Then they aren’t your step children.

your boyfriend isn’t ready to move on - isn’t prepared to upset the apple cart. I think you are more committed than he is.

CandyLeBonBon · 01/05/2022 16:30

Basically what everyone else has said!

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