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lawyerbunny1978 · 01/05/2022 13:02

I would welcome advice, please. Please read, I'm at the end of my chain.

My OH has a son and daughter. Daughter (H) is 27 and lives in his flat with her friend. Son (T) is 18, about to take his A-levels and lives with ex-wife. I have a 4 and a 7 year old.

My OH and I met 2 1/2 years ago, when he was separating from ex-wife. She's fed all kinds of poison into the well, after she found out about me but that's OT and I am clear that I was nothing to do with their marriage ending.

T and H won't meet me. They have consistently refused to, saying they needed 'time to adjust', then 'we need to build back our relationship with you, Dad, then we'll see', but ignoring me throughout, wanting their 'old Dad' back. They set curfew times for him for 5 months, so he had to be home by 6pm, so he could see me in the day in lockdown, to help with my childcare, but nothing more. Today, they're still 'emotionally unready', so I can't meet them, can't meet his parents etc.

The ex wife has conveyed many messages of 'you're a nobody, you don't exist for us'. I can tune her out, though that's been hurtful, but we're now 2.5 years in and I am in therapy, on anti-depressants, you name it.

My question is around this Summer. Without being specific, we are both into a big hobby scene that involves public events at a big level. Huge investment of time, lots of effort and you're literally on display and people come out to see you. Let's pretend it's top level eventing, Badminton time (it isn't!).

I have enjoyed this hobby for decades, before and after children, well before I met OH. It's obviously become a large part of our social life now, with mutual friends. OH has the kit. T has grown up around it. H isn't interested, but protective of T.

T and ex-wife have, to me, weoponised this hobby, tried to keep me out of what's 'theirs' as they see it. With lockdowns, and few events happening, we've got away with it for 2 years, but the chips are down this year. Last year OH and I felt solid, he was standing up to them and expecting them to join in to our world together, or be adults and opt out with respect for OH and me.

This year, he's doing the opposite. Saying to T he can have his 'exclusive' time with Daddy and asking me to be 'magnanimous' and drop out. I would gladly do that to give them space, believe me. But for T that means me not attending any events at all. I can't be on the same field, or he won't go. I can't go as public, camping miles away and won't see him, if he knows I'm going to be there, as I've done for 15+ years, he won't attend .

By way of example, at the end of May we're due to attend an event. I will help on all the set-up, but am then asked to say away for the next 3 days. I am told that I can't take my kids along for an ice cream for 30 minutes, because if I do, T won't go at all, because of his 'emotions'.

My children have grown up in this world, too. I have many friends that I won't see, if I don't go. I know this isn't right, OH knows it isn't right. I'm faced with turning my back on a hugely important part of my and my children's life, to save a relationship I'm not even sure is worth it, if I'm treated like this.

Any advice and comment appreciated, I really am at the end of my chain.

OP posts:
aSofaNearYou · 01/05/2022 14:21

They all sound awful, including your DP for having the audacity to expect you to pander to them.

You're in therapy and on antidepressants because of this. He is not worth it.

YetiTeri · 01/05/2022 14:22

Tell them all very simply that you're prioritising your children and will be taking them. You don't need anyone's permission.

PeekAtYou · 01/05/2022 14:25

I wouldn't pander to this shocking behaviour. Your partner can stay at home if he wants but there's no way I would stay away from the event and ask my kids to do the same.

The kids don't have to meet you but they can't ask you not to attend a public event. So what if T doesn't go? Not your problem.

It's implied that your partner expects you to stay away but I would not do this. He can stay away if he wants but please go.

Evasmissingletter · 01/05/2022 14:26

You are allowing your OH and his children to dictate what you can and can’t do with your life. It’s obviously had a massive effect on your mental health and more importantly will be having a negative impact on your own children.it’s never easy leaving a relationship but for their sake, you need to ditch him and live your life on your terms for your children.

LadyJGrey · 01/05/2022 14:31

This is nuts Op.
The PP who said ditch the partner, keep the hobby was spot on.
It’s even worse that this situation has resulted in you being on ADs and in therapy.
Personally, I’d walk.

watcherintherye · 01/05/2022 14:37

You are your own person. You have the freedom to attend whatever public event you wish with your children. Your dp and his family also have the freedom to attend, or not, as they see fit. For heaven’s sake don’t squeeze yourself into a box of their making. That way lies misery. If they want to squeeze themselves into the box they’ve made, that’s entirely up to them, and not of your doing. It’s not your job to accommodate their ludicrously delicate sensibilities.

stimpyyouidiot · 01/05/2022 14:38

Fuck that! End it and keep the hobby you love.

BungleandGeorge · 01/05/2022 14:40

From my observation adult children can be more difficult in a new relationship and more judgemental to new partners than children. Are you not much older than them? Your partner doesn’t seem to have your back, the relationship is making you miserable. Honestly I agree with others that you’d probably be better off keeping the hobby and ditching the partner

CloudPop · 01/05/2022 14:41

Move on. This is never going to resolve itself. Focus on your children and enjoying your life.

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 01/05/2022 14:42

You write as you both you and your OH are victims of the behaviour and expectations of his ex and his DC, but actually the only victim is you. Your OH is passing the shit straight on to you when he should be setting reasonable expectations in his relationship with his DC. You are the fall guy, the scape goat, the one whose happiness will be sacrificed by him in order to prevent him from being even slightly uncomfortable.

Break up and have no further discussion about where and how you will be spending your summer. It's absolutely none of their business. Everyone will be much happier, his ex, his DC and especially you. Your OH will replace you surprisingly quickly I expect. He didn't have much of a break between his ex and you, probably because it suits him to have a partner whose job it is to make his life smoother.

merryhouse · 01/05/2022 14:43

What they all said.

MintJulia · 01/05/2022 14:44

ExtraOnion · 01/05/2022 13:19

Fuck that … go where you want, when you want, with your children. If your partner and his kids can’t cope with that - that is their problem not yours.

Unless you are happy with his kids, his ex .. and him, behaving like this for the rest of your life, get out now.

This, with bells on!

IncompleteSenten · 01/05/2022 14:45

Urgh.
They're all ridiculous.
Dump him and enjoy your hobby.

FairyCakeWings · 01/05/2022 14:46

If T doesn’t want to go, then T doesn’t go. What you do is irrelevant if you’re prepared to go along and leave your OH and his son to get on with it. Go and spend time with all the other people you’ll know at this event, and let your OHs kids do what they want. You can’t force them to include you as part of their lives, but nor can they force you to stop doing your own thing.

Inklingpot · 01/05/2022 14:49

I’ve just re-read the OP because I find it so staggering. These are adults, not young children. They need to grow the fuck up.

Mix56 · 01/05/2022 14:52

Just tell you OH that they need to grow up, You weren't the catalyst for his separation, this pandering to them for over 2 years is ending. You have tried being diplomatic & understanding, but this is to the detriment of you & your children lives. They are not the Boss of you.
You will be going to the event, he, and they can take it or leave it

WhereYouLeftIt · 01/05/2022 14:57

" I'm faced with turning my back on a hugely important part of my and my children's life, to save a relationship I'm not even sure is worth it, if I'm treated like this."

To be honest, I don't think your relationship is worth it either.

Your OH is a total wet lettuce. He allows himself to be manipulated by his 27! year old daughter. A 6pm curfew? He should have laughed in her face and told her to find somewhere else for her and her friend to live other than his flat. He allows his ex-wife and children to treat you like dirt. He. Is. Not. Worth. It.

"By way of example, at the end of May we're due to attend an event. I will help on all the set-up, but am then asked to say away for the next 3 days. I am told that I can't take my kids along for an ice cream for 30 minutes, because if I do, T won't go at all, because of his 'emotions'."

Ditch him quickly and make arrangements with other friends to attend the event without him. If he and T don't attend, so much the better, the manipulative pair of scrotes. This was your world before him, it is still your world now without him.

I agree with everything @NarcissasMumintheDoghouse said. This will only be the start. So stop it right here, right now.

Enjoy the event. ((hug))

CheshireCats · 01/05/2022 14:57

My god op, this is shocking!
You go to every event, you tell your partner you will be doing this and everything else you want to do regardless of his children's opinions and you tell him to grow a backbone and stop dancing to their tune.
If he is not able to do this, you leave him and keep up with your hobbies and stuff him!

lunar1 · 01/05/2022 14:59

They are adults, they can be childish if they want and not meet you.

But this is your event, if your partner and his children can't handle it then they need to be the ones to back off and miss out.

Alternatively you could ditch him and the drama, you'll feel like a massive weight has been lifted.

Orphlids · 01/05/2022 15:00

Not only should you attend the events, but you should arrive in an enormous limousine, and to an enormous pre-arranged fanfare involving trumpet players and paparazzi.

Azerothi · 01/05/2022 15:03

Do you live with this current boyfriend?

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/05/2022 15:04

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 01/05/2022 14:42

You write as you both you and your OH are victims of the behaviour and expectations of his ex and his DC, but actually the only victim is you. Your OH is passing the shit straight on to you when he should be setting reasonable expectations in his relationship with his DC. You are the fall guy, the scape goat, the one whose happiness will be sacrificed by him in order to prevent him from being even slightly uncomfortable.

Break up and have no further discussion about where and how you will be spending your summer. It's absolutely none of their business. Everyone will be much happier, his ex, his DC and especially you. Your OH will replace you surprisingly quickly I expect. He didn't have much of a break between his ex and you, probably because it suits him to have a partner whose job it is to make his life smoother.

This. I’m absolutely fuming for you. Please stand up for yourself. You’re being treated appallingly.

Grandville · 01/05/2022 15:04

The only reasonable reaction is to laugh in his face.

iRun2eatCake · 01/05/2022 15:07

I'd tell OH to fuck off.

I'd think you would be utterly insane to give up your interest, social time, family time just to satisfy two adults who need to accept your life doesn't evolve around them.

Your OH sounds pathetic and just as bad as them. If it's too upsetting to see you then THEY need to not go.

I really hope you don't sacrifice anymore of your time and enjoyment for any of them

goldfinchfan · 01/05/2022 15:08

You are being asked to support another delusion. T wants to pretend his father never left his mothe.
You do exist aas do your children.
You cannot playalong. It is insane.
Be there as yourself.
T has to go and get therapy and learn to deal with reality.
Be strong OP