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Bastard bingo around the campfire

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helplesshopeless · 09/06/2021 10:51

Hi everyone...creating thread number 2 (or at least, attempting to...!) Link to old thread here

If that link doesn't work, I'll be forever indebted to any of you more mumsnet savvy folks helping me out! Grin

I'll come back in a bit to post properly, thank you all again for your help and support Flowers

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UnashamedLabelHo · 15/08/2021 17:36

There are wiser heads than me on here but court will make the decisions not your STXH. He is being aggressive in his tactics and gaslighting because he knows that if it gets to court he loses all control and will not necessarily win. You are doing the right thing going through your solicitor. Keep the faith, grey rock “we need to arrange this through the solicitor now and the courts will decide what’s best for DD, she’s the most important thing and a neutral decision will be leS emotive for us” (or whatever).

DogInATeaCup · 15/08/2021 18:08

Make the best arrangement for you and your child from your perspective assuming that shit will hit the fan and he will not agree on the divorce papers to whatever you have discussed previously.

You need to act in your best interests (just as he has demonstrated he is acting in his).

If he wants to play hard ball, fine, you've assumed that in your proposals. You can hope that he will be reasonable in order to 'deter you' from filing a CMS claim, but the control is in your hands on this, not his, and you do not need to make that decision until after the divorce papers are signed.

Stay safe and healthy OP

helplesshopeless · 15/08/2021 20:37

You know what is ridiculous, every time we have an interaction where he actually is fair and gracious and pleasant, it still makes me doubt whether I'm doing the right thing and whether I'm ruining things for our daughter over nothing, I should have tried harder, I've been selfish and dramatic Sad I'm absolutely riddled with self doubt this evening. And wondering how many weeks I have left in our lovely perfect home which I will be so sad to leave behind. And eventually see some other woman presumably move into it! Ahh life is complicated!

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Cavagirl · 15/08/2021 21:39

You know you're doing the right thing. But what you're doing is also the brave, hard thing. So it's totally understandable to have doubts. But it's your mind pretending that the lovely Hypothetical Future is possible, if only you'd been better. Sadly, it's not. It's fake, with him.

Maybe go back through this and your old thread and remind yourself of what he's done to you.

What real life support do you have? Did you go back to individual counselling?

Mix56 · 15/08/2021 22:18

It is sad, you are allowed to regret that he has completely destroyed your potential happy life & home.
But you forfeit this for being happy living in sane freedom.
Has he ever once apologised, or simply just bounce it back to you saying, You should have told me (you did) ....

Also, he placates you with agreements & you think its not so bad, then he fucking shoots you out if the water.
The whole thing is smoke & mirrors
He lies.
There is nothing that you can believe in.
How can you live with that?

peridito · 15/08/2021 22:25

I was thinking today about you and your fears for your daughter and musing about my son's life (not happily,although there is nothing dramatically wrong) .
It struck me how much mental energy it takes staying with someone where the relationship is flawed .And how that energy should go into raising your child .
Your daughter would not benefit from you staying ,you are absolutely doing the right thing .

I bet you're exhausted ,that so affects one's emotions and thoughts .

Hang on in there .

helplesshopeless · 16/08/2021 06:35

Thanks ladies Thanks

@Mix56 he was full of apologies when we were working through things but that slowly disappeared and now he's back to rolling his eyes and dismissing it if I ever counter his point about my affair destroying everything by pointing out his behaviour leading up to it!

@Cavagirl and @FoxgloveSummers, I have loads of support now, most of my immediate colleagues at work know (which is a good job as I am truly shocking at work at the moment Grin) and lots of friends who are being amazing. I'm not going back to counselling at least for a good while as I don't want to throw money away when I don't know if I'll need it for court proceedings!

What's frustrating me is that he is completely denying that we had made an agreement re 6/14, and is making out like I'm throwing my toys out of the pram because he didn't 'roll over and immediately agree to what I wanted.' The whole pattern was his proposal and what he asked for, and I gave it to him!! Arghhh.

Re finances, yes I'm confident I have a clear picture of finances because we've often sat down and planned out the next few years (our mortgage would have been paid off in 3.5 years if I hadn't done thisSad), the only thing is that he's keen on agreeing a figure re house value that I think is a modest value. We had a few estate agent valuations and as usual they varied wildly but one of them was very firm that the figure my husband has proposed is at least 50k too cheap. But I've told him to put what he wants in his solicitors response and I will consider it in conjunction with the full contents of his response with advice from my solicitor.

You're all right, I need to just buckle up and accept court if that's where this takes us. 6/14 was the absolute maximum I was agreeing to, and that was one more night than I'd proposed to him, and there's absolutely no way im backing down. It's so annoying as he's making out like the extra night (it's a Sunday on the weekend he's with her) is in her best interests because it allows a full weekend with him, but in the same sentence he's arguing that it's only a bedtime that I'm missing out on so it has minimal impact on me and her. In reality it means she'd only come back to me Monday morning, have hardly any time to reconnect with me and then she'd be back with him on Tuesday. It's completely shit!! He's also made the argument that his family often has family dinners on Sunday night (not true) and this would allow her to attend Hmm rahhhhh.

I can't get Mumsnet to work on the browser btw, anyone else have this problem?! It's stopping me from linking a new thread, unless anyone knows if I can do it via the app instead?!

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helplesshopeless · 16/08/2021 07:01

I've created a new one before this ran out of space but I'll have to link to it when the browser starts working - it's called 'bastard bingo - full house!!'

Thanks all ThanksThanks

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Cavagirl · 16/08/2021 08:14

Hopefully this works... new thread here

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