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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

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helplesshopeless · 09/06/2021 10:51

Hi everyone...creating thread number 2 (or at least, attempting to...!) Link to old thread here

If that link doesn't work, I'll be forever indebted to any of you more mumsnet savvy folks helping me out! Grin

I'll come back in a bit to post properly, thank you all again for your help and support Flowers

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KatySun · 19/07/2021 06:43

Hello helplesshopeless well done from me as well. You are making steps out of this situation and also ensuring it is not just your burden to carry. I am glad that the police have asked you to come in and speak to someone; please make sure you do because he was threatening you harm. I am also glad you have told your mum. And I am very glad that you recognise his behaviour as manipulative. Good luck Flowers

Isthisit22 · 19/07/2021 07:15

This is a massive step in the right direction- well done. You are very strong and are going to have an amazing life without him. I can't wait to see updates in a few months time when you are finally away from him and you can see more clearly and finally have some peace. Keep going

helplesshopeless · 19/07/2021 08:21

Does anyone know how I can find a solicitor that specialises in this kind of manipulation/abuse? The legal500 website isn't getting me anywhere!

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helplesshopeless · 19/07/2021 08:22

Sorry, that was a very quick qu, but I'll post properly tomorrow to reply to you all Thanks

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SortingItOut · 19/07/2021 08:23

Usually Women's Aid will have a few solicitors they recommend who are experienced in dealing with abusers and manipulation techniques.

Alcemeg · 19/07/2021 09:08

Good luck OP, well done for navigating a difficult weekend and I'm so so so pleased you told your mum. Was she shocked, or did she have her doubts all along? I hope she an provide you with some much-needed support, going forward. Flowers

KatherineSiena · 19/07/2021 09:11

Maybe try posting the specific question re solicitors in the legal section on here too? People might be able to signpost you to a local resource/solicitor to you.

KatySun · 19/07/2021 09:28

rightsofwomen.org.uk/get-advice/

I am presuming you are in England so there is this website for starters. Women’s Aid may also be able to help but where I am, they were not able to give out advice.
Also www.flows.org.uk/support-for-women/legal-support-options might be helpful as there is a search for local help link.
Also Google legal help coercive control and see if any solicitor’s near you mention this in a blog or article (long shot maybe).

KatySun · 19/07/2021 09:28

Make sure your browser is set to private so your browsing history is not stored

Hawkins001 · 19/07/2021 09:40

Reading with intrigue

Peach2021 · 20/07/2021 09:34

Hi HH sorry the legal 500 isn’t helpful enough on this - I’ve only used it for a more general family law search. Depending on where you are in the UK Stowe Family Law may have an office…well worth considering. Very well done for getting to this point you are doing great!

Mix56 · 20/07/2021 12:29

How are you HH?

heirloomcurls · 20/07/2021 13:28

Sorry if my post was perceived as treating OP as stupid. Not at ALL my intention! As Cavagirl and others explained, it was more a question of worrying that HH had become so used to 'managing' her STBXH's outbursts that she was not seeing just how sinister things have become. Someone rightly pointed out that a matter of weeks ago she was convinced he would never get physical with her, where he clearly now has.

Very encouraged to hear that you have managed to open up to your mum, HH, that you've logged his threat with 101 and that you're looking for a more clued-up solicitor.

You're doing great! One day all this will be in the rear view mirror.

Also, I think you will have to acknowledge and allow yourself to feel the conflicting emotions (including sadness, grief even at the end of your marriage, guilt that you're hurting someone you care(d) about, fear of the unknown...) but nevertheless plough on because ultimately, this marriage was never going to allow you to be fully yourself or authentically happy. Your STBXH's recent behaviour has, I suspect, given you the last bit of clarity that you needed.

loveyourself2020 · 21/07/2021 16:12

I hope you are ok OP Flowers

billy1966 · 21/07/2021 20:09

I hope so too.🙏

me4real · 22/07/2021 11:34

@helplesshopeless I think Women's Aid would put you in touch with solicitors etc locally who are good at this stuff. Give them a ring and ask.

Best wishes. xx

Mix56 · 22/07/2021 16:46

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/4189975-divorce-lawyer

does this help ?

Mix56 · 24/07/2021 07:48

Hello HH, I hope you are OK. I am guessing everything has gone to shit.
& your H is being volatile & extremely angry.
It will be hard, but realistically it was unlikely he would be decent man in divorce if he couldn't be a decent man during the marriage.
I hope you are safe.

Isthisit22 · 24/07/2021 08:17

Hope you are ok HH

Peach2021 · 24/07/2021 08:23

Morning sweetheart every day when I wake up I wonder how you are…and I hope that each day you are able to take a step forward (tiny or big) to a happier and more peaceful life for you and DD. No need to respond just wanted to send gentle hugs from the ether xxxx

KatherineSiena · 24/07/2021 09:48

I also hope you are ok OP. There are a few threads that really haunt me and this is one of them. You sound so lovely & caring so I hope you are safe & are at least part way to being free. 💐

Alcemeg · 24/07/2021 17:04

Just to add my own small voice to the chorus of support, @helplesshopeless.

Another possibility I'm aware of is that you could be back to square one and sincerely trying again. Anything is possible in this cauldron of conflict.

Whatever is going on, please be kind to yourself. Flowers

loveyourself2020 · 24/07/2021 17:48

Let's hope she is ok. Flowers

helplesshopeless · 24/07/2021 21:37

Hello all

So sorry for going quiet, to be honest I'm just trying to keep my head above water!

Things have deteriorated further but also I've made some good steps towards resolving things and feel like surely my situation must start to improve soon.

Had a few scary moments with him - one was last weekend when he started going on about never paying me maintenance (out of the blue). I just said I wouldn't discuss further outside of mediation, and reduced to engage; which absolutely enraged him. He followed me upstairs and was extremely verbally abusive and unpleasant. Later once I was in bed, he crept up to my bedroom and suddenly burst through the door in a really aggressive way (obviously designed to scare me). He then said really sweetly 'just came to see night night' and walked off. About ten mins later I went to the toilet and locked the door. He again tried to sneak up and burst in, but as the door was locked he instead just waited outside and stood in my way in a very intimidating way, whispering more verbal abuse at me.

After that I went to sleep on the floor of my daughter's room, as I knew he'd leave me alone then.

The next morning, he came into the room while I was still asleep and took my phone. When I followed him he started shouting at me that he was sick of me trying to record him, and he was letting me know that if I tried to discuss maintenance payments during mediation then he was taking me straight to court to get shared custody. He kept throwing my phone down calling me a 'f*cking cheap bitch.'

For the rest of the day he was lingering around glaring at me, mouthing swear words at me etc. Later on I was baking with my daughter in the kitchen and he came to watch, kept getting in my way deliberately, pretending to trip me and pretending to throw knives at me and so on. At one point he pressed up against me and whispered 'fcking c*nt' in my ear.

After all of that, I actually coincidentally had a meeting booked with the police to discuss my recent 101 call, so I updated them on everything that had happened to date. They advised that there isn't any evidence for them to take any further at the moment, and that it sounded like a civil matter so I should speak to a family lawyer.

A couple of other incidents have occurred since, which involved him taking my phone from me, and him twisting my arm away when I tried to get it back. He then locked me out of the house. He managed to read my messages as it was unlocked when he grabbed at me and saw that I'm now back in touch with the OM, so that won't have helped matters. He also deliberately stood on my bare feet once I'd managed to get inside, and pressed down on them while I was holding our daughter and getting her an ice lolly from the freezer. I have spoken to the police about this and they want to take a statement.

I have found a really good solicitor who is providing amazing support. She did consider applying for a non molestation order but said that that would take ages to come through, and so the best remedy is to resolve the whole situation as quickly as possible. She will be writing to him early next week with the proposals re financials and our daughter, and warning him that his behaviour towards me must stop.

In the meantime I am staying away from the house every evening once our daughter is asleep, and also staying away for the night twice a week. I will ask my solicitor to include in her letters interim proposals for him to also be out of the house a few times a week.

I'm feeling pretty anxious, absolutely cannot be in the house with him when our daughter isn't there now. I'm just looking forward to (also terrified about) the letters hitting his inbox as that'll be the next step to resolving it. I really hope he sees it as an opportunity to negotiate quickly and bring this all to a close, without needing to involve the courts on anything.

I know you're all going to say get out, and I'm considering it, but I'm also taking the advice of the solicitor who has dealt with men like this before. I think as long as I'm just not in the house during any waking hours without our daughter, he won't have any opportunity to do anything further, and the fact that all further discussions will be via my solicitor will mean that nothing can escalate. You will probably all disagree, but I'm dealing with this as best I can and taking all of the advice that I can get hold of.

Anyway, thank you so much all of you for continuing to think of me and for all of your supportive messages. I really appreciate you all!! ThanksThanks

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helplesshopeless · 24/07/2021 21:40

Just to confirm as well that I found a new solicitor, so the one I mentioned just now is separate to the one in previous posts

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