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Trivial arguments about my car

221 replies

SeagrassGreen · 09/07/2020 23:36

My car is making unhealthy sounding noises for the last couple of weeks. DH has a mate who likes to tinker and he thinks this would be a cheaper option than taking it to a garage. Friend has no training other than kit cars are a hobby and I don't want him trying to fix my car and then live with the worry that it might not be safe or have him break it still further.

I know this sounds completely trivial. I am a bit of an anxious person about stupid things like dealing with garages so it does take me longer to do these things than most people so he is just trying to help in many ways. He thinks I am too 'uptight'.

Anyway, I declined the offer from his friend and have booked the garage but he has been grumpy for days as I will probably be a bit anxious until it's fixed and 'this will lead to an argument'. He thinks that the friend would have had a go and it would all be done by now. Then the final straw was on Monday. I had to help my mother with her shopping, she did take a long time and I was late back by about an hour. Since then he has been in full on cold shoulder. I do have a slightly difficult relationship with my mother which he knows affects me too so thinks that I should be more boundaried in my time with her to limit that effect. He also is someone who is always on time and can't understand those who are not and considers it really rude. We also are really busy with work at the moment so don't have much time together and he feels I am not prioritising our time and that he has no control over any aspect of our lives at the moment.

It is a bit hard to explain but he has really helped me over the years. I am indecisive and anxious although you would probably not guess that if you met me. He has made me do things I used to avoid but wanted to do so lots of things in my life are better. I don't have a lot of confidence and it probably means I have become quite dependent on him so when we have these arguments he will suddenly withdraw until I can coax him out of it but that can take days. Equally, maybe it is fair enough for him to withdraw for a couple of days.

The difficulty is how to manage it. It has always happened every so often and with the stress of trying to keep the business afloat recently it is happening a bit more often I think. It's so exhausting to have to manage on top of everything. I have tried telling him how it affects me but he says it is just how he is and not to worry. I wonder if I should have just got the friend to look at the car.

How have people dealt with this kind of argument?

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MikeUniformMike · 09/07/2020 23:56

I would have taken the car to his mate's. It might be something really simple to fix.If I had a friend who could do this I would definitely make the most of it. If he can build a kit car then he must know something.
At a guess, you will have booked the car into a dealership for repairs - if you have it will be £££.

I think you should both be a bit more accepting of how you are. Six of one, and all that. I couldn't cope with the cold shoulder treatment.

Notcoolmum · 10/07/2020 00:01

Your car. Your choice.

You have a curfew on seeing your mother?

Somethingkindaoooo · 10/07/2020 00:09

It's your car,surely it's up to you?

category12 · 10/07/2020 00:09

He needs to wind his neck in about you visiting your mother - why do you have a set time to get home? You're an adult, what's his problem?

It's your car, and if you don't trust some mate of his to fix it, that's fair enough. Huffing about it is bizarre.

He sounds quite domineering. Have you considered that you may not benefiting as much as you think you are from his influence? If you grew up with a controlling parent(?), it may be you're replicating that with a controlling man.

Alwaysinpain · 10/07/2020 00:15

Your boyfriend sounds controlling. Cold shoulder is a form of control/Coercion. He has convinced you that he brings positivity into your life but it was you who made those changes, not him.

Why did you have a specific time to be back by, when you when out with your mum?? That's not right.

SeagrassGreen · 10/07/2020 00:16

Thanks Mike, well it will be more expensive than free definitely! But I felt I'd rather have peace of mind.

The cold shoulder is very hard to live with, for one thing I am assuming it is the car issue and being late but he wont really even tell me. Sometimes I have absolutely no idea at all what I have done for days.

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SeagrassGreen · 10/07/2020 00:18

Thanks everyone,

The issue with my mother is that she is quite negative about me. I had not really realised this until he last few years but she is constantly subtly criticising which dh picked up. So he thinks if I limit contact then my mood is better which is right I have to say.

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SeagrassGreen · 10/07/2020 00:23

I guess I am a bit of an anxious person which is partly because of her but I am better if I stick to routines so I have been trying to be on time. I guess that why I said it was difficult to explain as I do perceive he is trying to help. I think he would admit he is a bit controlling but says that is how it is if I want advice, otherwise dont ask for help.

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TheFlis12345 · 10/07/2020 00:23

So he is allowed to treat you very poorly but your mother isn’t?!?

SeagrassGreen · 10/07/2020 00:25

I guess that is one of the issues. On this occasion I did decide I would sort the car myself but he is still grumpy about it.

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Clymene · 10/07/2020 00:31

So I led you do exactly as he wants, he punishes you? This is not a good relationship OP

HeddaGarbled · 10/07/2020 00:31

I think it’s totally reasonable for you to use a proper garage rather than his mate. I always take mine to a garage connected to the manufacturer. That way, the work is guaranteed, the service history is maintained, and I have legal recourse in the event of any problem.

However, what does “a bit anxious until it’s fixed” look like? If you’re going to be a pain to live with for weeks, I can understand why he’s trying to speed the process up.

A bit of advice for the withdrawing behaviour (translation = sulking): don’t do the coaxing thing - ignore it and get on with your life. It’s like training a toddler out of tantrums - ignore bad behaviour rather than rewarding it with attention.

category12 · 10/07/2020 00:33

OP, the silent treatment is emotionally abusive.

He may be right about your mother, but he may also be trying to drive a wedge between you - it's a classic move to isolate you from family and friends.

Does he have a problem with your friends or you having a social life independent of him? Does he monitor what time you get home from work etc?

SeagrassGreen · 10/07/2020 00:36

I dont think I would have been able to make those changes on my own. I haven't before I met him and he has helped me sort out all manner of things. I really struggle with motivation and avoidance.
But the constant silent treatment is increasingly unbearable. I have asked him how he is every half an hour, taken him tea and food, triedto show absolutely no irritation. I know it will take a while yet before he will start to talk and that itself is inevitably a 3 hour argument. If I ignore him then he eventual argument is usually even worse as added to that will be the offence of not caring enough to try to cheer him up. I know it's not right but then I get doubts about maybe I'm the same. He complains about a sense of having to tread on eggshells with me too so maybe I'm not seeing it.

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SeagrassGreen · 10/07/2020 00:39

I don't really have many friends. Most live far away and I'm not good at keeping in touch.

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HeddaGarbled · 10/07/2020 00:40

Ok, I’ve changed my view after reading your newer posts - he’s emotionally abusive. You need to dump him.

SeagrassGreen · 10/07/2020 00:42

I think he is right about her. She is critical and frequently unsupportive, I just didn't see it. We do still see each other but just not as much.

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HeddaGarbled · 10/07/2020 00:43

www.relate.org.uk/relationship-help/help-relationships/arguing-and-conflict/what-emotional-abuse

See the fourth bullet point.

MrsToddsShortcut · 10/07/2020 00:52

Sweetheart, it's possible that your mum isn't great, but that doesn't mean that he is.

Almost everything you have written about him is waving huge red flags for me. This is not a healthy relationship and he is controlling and emotionally abusive.

Accusing you of causing him to walk on eggshells is also abusive; he's reversing the behaviour and trying to blame you.

I suspect that if your mum has dented your confidence over the years, that you replicating this with him -probably because on some level you don't think you are worth it and possibly that you feel grateful that he is 'big' enough to take you on/put up with you.

You are absolutely 100% worth living just for who you are, and as you are.

You owe him nothing and no amount of nice things and encouragements is worth this kind of emotional abuse. He's already got you feeling grateful to have him, despite him clearly treating you like shit.

If you have a chance, or when you are at work, have a look at the Women's Aid website and also please read Living With the Dominator by Pat Craven ( ifI could, I would give a copy to every woman on the face of the earth).

You are worth so much more than this -please please believe me.

This is not normal. Not by a long shot ThanksThanks

category12 · 10/07/2020 00:52

It can be both - your mum may be all those things, but the reason he wants you away from her, can also be not be for your own good, but so he can isolate you.

You're describing emotional abuse in a lot of what you're saying about your relationship.

SeagrassGreen · 10/07/2020 00:52

Which bit Hedda made you change your mind?

When I sayIm a bit anxious, I suppose I mean I procrastinate a bit. So left to my own devices I would have wondered what garage for a bit, spent too long looking at reviews for garages, delayed for a couple of days to see what happened to the car, would forget which review I had chosen so taken another half hour to look and then finally booked it in. Dh is the type to just call one person and book it so I can genuinely see it is a pain if you are not like that. I find my approach annoying too, it is such a waste of time!

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TinySongstress · 10/07/2020 00:55

What sounds/noises is it making?

SeagrassGreen · 10/07/2020 00:56

I'm not sure I can manage on my own. Honestly I know it sounds stupid. No one who knows me would believe it but I just dont do well.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 10/07/2020 00:57

You have a codependent relationship. He 'fixed' aspects of you, you rely on him, that gives him validation and control. When you withdraw your dependence even slightly he punishes you with a different kind of control.

All this was set up by your relationship with your mother.

It's not rocket science but you need counselling. And you need to either end or completely redraw your relationships.

category12 · 10/07/2020 00:57

He "helps" you with your indecisiveness/anxiety by making life utterly miserable when you do make an independent decision. Do you see the disconnect here?

Basically he wants to have you solely dependent on him and do what he wants you to do, not encourage you to be confident in yourself and making your own decisions.