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Trivial arguments about my car

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SeagrassGreen · 09/07/2020 23:36

My car is making unhealthy sounding noises for the last couple of weeks. DH has a mate who likes to tinker and he thinks this would be a cheaper option than taking it to a garage. Friend has no training other than kit cars are a hobby and I don't want him trying to fix my car and then live with the worry that it might not be safe or have him break it still further.

I know this sounds completely trivial. I am a bit of an anxious person about stupid things like dealing with garages so it does take me longer to do these things than most people so he is just trying to help in many ways. He thinks I am too 'uptight'.

Anyway, I declined the offer from his friend and have booked the garage but he has been grumpy for days as I will probably be a bit anxious until it's fixed and 'this will lead to an argument'. He thinks that the friend would have had a go and it would all be done by now. Then the final straw was on Monday. I had to help my mother with her shopping, she did take a long time and I was late back by about an hour. Since then he has been in full on cold shoulder. I do have a slightly difficult relationship with my mother which he knows affects me too so thinks that I should be more boundaried in my time with her to limit that effect. He also is someone who is always on time and can't understand those who are not and considers it really rude. We also are really busy with work at the moment so don't have much time together and he feels I am not prioritising our time and that he has no control over any aspect of our lives at the moment.

It is a bit hard to explain but he has really helped me over the years. I am indecisive and anxious although you would probably not guess that if you met me. He has made me do things I used to avoid but wanted to do so lots of things in my life are better. I don't have a lot of confidence and it probably means I have become quite dependent on him so when we have these arguments he will suddenly withdraw until I can coax him out of it but that can take days. Equally, maybe it is fair enough for him to withdraw for a couple of days.

The difficulty is how to manage it. It has always happened every so often and with the stress of trying to keep the business afloat recently it is happening a bit more often I think. It's so exhausting to have to manage on top of everything. I have tried telling him how it affects me but he says it is just how he is and not to worry. I wonder if I should have just got the friend to look at the car.

How have people dealt with this kind of argument?

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billy1966 · 20/07/2020 22:58

OP, he hasn't your best interests at heart, how can he? He wants to control you.

I call bullshit on his remarks today about your business....the sound wholly made up.

Good advice to check in with clients and to secure your various accounts.

You are so very strong.

Don't pay your mother any heed.

Your instincts are true, believe in yourself.

Flowers
SeagrassGreen · 20/07/2020 23:46

Thanks wise ones! I will check myself with the client tomorrow. It is so hard to not fall into the trap of feeling sorry for him or thinking I cant cope or believing what he says without questioning motives. I will focus on the fact I have our passports and all the kids baby things back safely and let tomorrow take care of itself.

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Happynow001 · 21/07/2020 04:04

@SeagrassGreen

You are doing so well - so much more mentally confident and positive since your first post - keep it up! Just one thought: has DH ever had access to the keys for your flat? If so you may want to get your locks changed? No need to mention it to him though.

pickingdaisies · 21/07/2020 08:38

Why does he do it? He wants to be the one who rescues you. But to do that, YOU have to be dependent on him. You have to be kept in a box and fed on crumbs. So he's trying to crack your confidence so you think you can't do it without him. But you know now that you can, the illusion has been spoilt and you can see that he's been setting you up to fail. You've got out of the box, he wants you back in it. Meanwhile, try not to let him know what your plans are about anything, especially the business, or he will use them to his advantage. I think you'll find your clients have no concerns about youSmile Flowers

Dery · 21/07/2020 08:49

What @pickingdaisies said. Spot on.

Check in with your clients and as PP have said, start reducing his involvement in your business because you know from past experience that he will sabotage clients in order to get back at you.

Also the below with bells on:

"Love's a bit of a red herring, I think. We get taught that love is precious and rare and we need to cling on to it, and that it conquers all and makes pain & stress worthwhile. But it's not true. Love is only valuable when it's in a healthy reciprocal relationship."

There are very few examples of healthy love in fiction, drama, pop music etc. That's probably understandable because healthy love doesn't generate much of dramatic interest. Therefore there is a perception that loving someone is all about yearning for them and wanting to be with them and wanting them for yourself etc. But if your H loved you in a healthy way, he would unreservedly support your business and encourage you to fly, not sabotage client relationships and keep trying to clip your wings.

SeagrassGreen · 21/07/2020 16:30

I have checked, not a smidge of concern from client who seems entirely happy. So, it was totally made up. I am quite shocked to have this bit confirmed but am now remembering various times he has done similar to other people too, just slightly shifting the truth in a way that was not quite comfortable to put someone off balance.
I can also remember how he has gradually managed to turn people against someone he doesnt like too so have to be careful he is not working against me.

I am seeing all kinds of things he has kept me out of and taken over. It is going to be a job to get back any control and I have to idea if he will fight me back over it.
I think I should not confront him over it at the moment and hope that he believes I am struggling so he doesnt up the ante even more.

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pickingdaisies · 21/07/2020 16:50

You are right not to confront him. You don't want him covering his tracks, and I'm sure you can achieve plenty while he thinks you're struggling. I'm so sorry he isn't the man you thought he was.

LannieDuck · 21/07/2020 17:32

Well done for staying calm and working through this lie. He's obviously not above attacking you through your business - you need to remain professional and competent to your clients. And then have confidence in your own ability to do a good job.

As a silver lining, at least you now have really clear evidence of his lies and manipulations, for when you next get a wobble about whether you should let things go back to the way they were.

TorkTorkBam · 21/07/2020 17:40

If he knows you are in a battle for control of the business then he will do anything and everything to win. Best avoided

You win by him being bored of your business and wanting to do other stuff. So, make it as boring as possible. That means not letting him use it as leverage, not getting drawn into any dramas at all. Do not share any highs or lows. Boring, boring, boring.

picklemewalnuts · 21/07/2020 18:14

Check out whether you have any legal cover- business insurance or whatever.

You may be able to get some advice to lock things down, away from him, before he realises.

What is his role? Is he an employee? A partner?

SeagrassGreen · 28/07/2020 21:22

Hello, I just thought I would update. I have seen a family solicitor to look at my options for divorce. I think wrestling back control of the business is going to be hard. I have tried this week to get on top of as much as I can but I feel he has managed to take te lead on most of our best clients who might well go to him of there was a split. I am going to do my best but I need to think about my options. Solicitor was reassuring about some things though and we wont starve.
I feel I'm in some weird limbo at the moment. He has tried a variety of tactics to get to talk to me but I have pretty much ignored.

I am going to have to say it's over soon but keep putting it off. I'm frightened about what he will do, not in terms of my physical safety though. I cant work out what exactly I'm frightened of but I just think he will do something to make it hard to leave or something awful to the business (although I'm resigned to it), or something humiliating somehow. I feel like I'm going to have to watchmy every move somehow but also that he could easily catch me out and make life really difficult.

I'm not sure what to say to him either. Do I try to give him an explanation or is that futile? What is more likely to calm the situation down?
I'm frightened of being alone too. I haven't got close friends or anyone I can talk to and my mother is still in her disapproving stage. I'm worried it will be ok for a few weeks and then I'll be an anxious wreck again.

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ButteryPuffin · 28/07/2020 21:30

I don't think you'll ever give him an explanation that would satisfy him. He also won't believe it's his fault. I would go with, when the time comes, an approach about how you have realised you're not compatible, that you weren't making each other happy so it's best to separate.

Can you get advice about subtly taking back control of the business? Maybe the work or legal sections here might help.

You're sounding stronger than you think. You can do this Flowers

SeagrassGreen · 28/07/2020 21:41

Thanks Buttery, yes I am better than I was it's true. I've also realised that if I'm worrying so much about the fallout of splitting up rather than the actual splitting up then I clearly should be out of this relationship. Early on I tried to split up with him actually. He spent a number of hours talking me round, first saying we could just be friends and he would carry on helping with the business and then somehow we were back together. Things are different now though, although also more complicated in lots of ways.
I have taken some advice on the business. I dont want to discuss it too much on here because the detail might be identifying but he has as much right to his share as I do now unfortunately and I'm not sure there is a lot I can do if he wants to fight over it. I think I will try to pretend it is not something I am very bothered by.

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OffThePlanet · 28/07/2020 21:55

I wouldn’t tell him you are splitting just yet OP. Let him think you need a break at the moment to think about things and that it would be good if he just let you get on with your work without feeling like he is undermining you. If he asks for examples you could tell him one example was how you felt it was a battle to just get your car fixed how you wanted. That he always acts as if he knows best.

Don’t forget you started your business, you did quite well without him taking over, making you feel as if you needed him.

AbbieLexie · 28/07/2020 22:08

Flowers Flowers

category12 · 28/07/2020 22:16

Probably best to take half and rebuild, rather than go toe-to-toe with him over it.

I'm glad you're doing OK and making those steps.

You don't have to give an explanation beyond it's not working for you and it's over (when you're ready and it feels the right time). Anything you said he'd twist and reverse anyway, and it's not a discussion - ending a relationship only needs one person's say-so.

SeagrassGreen · 29/07/2020 12:40

Thanks, I feel like he will carry on interfering and consider the relationship is not over until he decides it is over. Probably until the papers on the divorce are finalised.

I am going to take what I can and try to rebuild if possible I think. I not sure I will win any fight between us.
I read somewhere recently, maybe on another thread, it is like needing to run through a fire to get out of a burning building.

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Dery · 29/07/2020 14:08

@SeagrassGreen - good for you. It sounds like you've got this and you're going to take the steps you need to take to look after yourself. Btw, you have disproved time and time again in this thread your parents' and husband's myth that you're some helpless dreamer who constantly needs direction from a benign dictator. I've rarely seen someone be so clear-sighted when called into action!

picklemewalnuts · 30/07/2020 07:49

You are competent and capable.

When it comes to telling him, I'd go with something like ' he was obviously unhappy, and when you thought about it, so were you'.

I wouldn't go into any detail or example on this or anything else like the business, as it will just give him opportunities to argue.

Have you spoken to women's aid? They may have advice or support about handling the fall out of telling him. The reason you feel anxious about it is that he grinds you down when you don't do what he wants, and you don't want to be ground down.

Arrivederla · 30/07/2020 11:37

@SeagrassGreen

Thanks, I feel like he will carry on interfering and consider the relationship is not over until he decides it is over. Probably until the papers on the divorce are finalised.

I am going to take what I can and try to rebuild if possible I think. I not sure I will win any fight between us.
I read somewhere recently, maybe on another thread, it is like needing to run through a fire to get out of a burning building.

I understand what you are saying op but this is where you need a really good divorce solicitor to advise you. I certainly wouldn't be walking away with less than I thought I was entitled to unless a solicitor had advised it was the only way. Maybe get a couple more opinions.
pickingdaisies · 30/07/2020 16:22

Best of luck Seagrass, and definitely get another opinion as pp's have advised. Meanwhile maybe you can reel a couple of those big clients back your way before he cottons on.

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