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Husband used ‘massage’ parlours numerous times. How to move on?

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Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:03

So I’ve found out that my husband of 9 years have made repeat visits to ‘massage’ parlours for ‘happy endings’.
Found a couple of old messages on his iPad by accident and confronted him straight away. He denied it for a week claiming it was just a fantasy but both messages had him saying ‘I’m in the street, what’s your door number’ so I refused to believe him. He eventually fessed up but it took him a week where I was in a complete shock, could not sleep, eat or focus.
He tried to play it down saying that although it’s been going on for 5 months, he only had gone a couple of times.
Well, by this stage I had cross checked his blocked numbers against his car satnav and google searching the number + massage and I knew it was more than that.
Cut the long story short, he finally said that it was more like 10 times and gave me full access to his phone and iCloud so i accessed all his old deleted WhatsApp messages and I know it was actually 12 times he paid the hookers to get his end away. He claims it was ‘just’ hand jobs at the end of a naked body to body massage but there are 5 messages where he asks if they would do full Dec with the massage. Each time the response is ‘no’ but that does not mean that he could not have called to book full sex with someone else... not that it would make it any worse as he has done enough to make me feel disgusted and utterly betrayed.
Yet... I am still thinking that we should give our relationship a go, I do love him.
Let’s be clear, I do t need him and I have lived by myself before - perfectly happily. But other than this the relationship was perfect! Can’t believe I’m even saying this as clearly it was not but we had good sex life, lovely holidays and a good social life.
He is not sure why he did it, says the first time it happened it was after a normal massage - she offered him an extra and he did not say no... and then he got a taste for it and. Kept going. He also says that he was worried about not being able to come as often as he used to (I’d every night) but he is in his late forties! And I thought I made it clear to him that I did not mind - because I did not. He has always complimented me on my figure/ looks etc and says it has nothing to do with me not being sexy enough, it’s just his stupidity.
I want us to stay together but it’s been over 2 months since I found out and I’m still having thoughts about him actually paying someone to wxxnk him off and other women sliding their pert bodies over his.
I was a complete wreck for a month but have pulled myself together out of the black hole and I’m now starting to think logically. But perhaps I should think with my heart? Opinions and experiences welcome...

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Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:52

Hmm, I’m gaining a completely different perspective. The therapist said that a lot of couples overcome the infidelity and I guess it threw me a bit + his up-until-then good behaviour.
I am thinking exactly what everyone has shared but I also want to believe him he will not do it again.

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Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:52

Thanks. Will get the book.

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HollowTalk · 17/04/2019 18:54

I think you can't believe him. He will just be more careful. He clearly gets something from this - the subterfuge, the sex - and no matter what you say he was happy living like that.

MrsGrannyWeatherwax · 17/04/2019 18:56

I’m very liberal but the extent of his lying would be the blow to our relationship. I’d be unable to accept the deceit, lack of any relationship issues and fact it’s a second marriage for him too.

Ultimately it’s up to you if it’s behaviour you can forgive and trust him in future. Sorry you’re going through this

Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:56

He even agreed to do a post-nup and stipulate that he would sign off his part of the house to me in the event of any future infidelity. Perhaps I should take him up on it!

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Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:58

Thank you MrsGranny - and everyone else. Please keep sharing your thoughts, it’s v helpful.
I wish I had come here first before shelling out for the shrink

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Moralitym1n1 · 17/04/2019 18:59

been seeing a counsellor and she keeps saying that we do have strong relationship worth fighting for

I cannot believe that a counsellor would say something like this and encourage someone to stay with a partner who's been repeatedly cheating on them with prostitutes and deceiving them about it.

She shouldn't havd z license to practice (I'd she needs one).

This is so far beyond the pale.

SandyY2K · 17/04/2019 18:59

I don't like the sound of your counsellor.

You aren't other couples. Thus is your relationship and telling you that some people have a stronger relationship afterwards is swaying you.

I actually think thats a load of nonsense saying infidelity made your marriage better.

Your husband not only had many happy endings...other women masturbating him...but he repeatedly sought sex with them.

Keeping faithful isn't something that concerned him. He's grovelling because it's so shameful..worse than just having an affair with one person.

He's gone out there and paid for it. I wouldn't want his hands on me tbh.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 17/04/2019 18:59

Get a counsellor who actually has some regard for your self respect, and ditch this disgusting man. He will never stop. So unless you want to live your whole life being cheated on, get rid.

Myheartbelongsto · 17/04/2019 19:00

oh bengal, get rid of him. it will never be the same again, he will always have done this. i could not forget or forgive this and the mental image of taking his pants off and then getting wanked off, oh fuck no, no,no.

Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 19:00

HollowTalk, I think you’re into something with the subterfuge. The only thing he said he would like us to do is to have sex outdoors ie where someone might catch us. But it’s not my thing, the idea of it just puts me off!

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Abcd3 · 17/04/2019 19:26

Is there any chance that he might agree to have therapy (on his own) to try to work out why he did what he did?

NameChangeNugget · 17/04/2019 19:31

I don’t think I’d recover from this. You’re never going to be enough for him. How can you even consider staying with this deviant?

Guyliner · 17/04/2019 19:35

How does he know the women involved arent trafficked, or does he not care?

You never had the perfect marriage he was lying to you during all those good times.

Guyliner · 17/04/2019 19:36

Is there any chance that he might agree to have therapy (on his own) to try to work out why he did what he did?

Hmm I think we know why he did it

OldWomanSaysThis · 17/04/2019 19:37

He paid these women for sex and now he's trying to pay you to stay. He's one of these guys who likes to throw money at problems - which is usually pretty effective.

Really, from my experience, when men cheat it has nothing to do with their existing partner. Nothing at all. It's about being getting their dicks hard and having exciting sex. Period. It's no reflection of their existing relationship - the quality of it, the appearance of their partner, how many times you have sex - nothing.

dragonflyflew · 17/04/2019 19:39

He’s a cunt and your counsellor sounds like an absolute unprofessional idiot. NO counsellor worth their salt would encourage you to fight for any relationship, they’d let you work it out yourself.

Deadringer · 17/04/2019 19:40

He is a lying, disgusting, cheating scumbag. He is nice to you and buys you gifts, but he is still a lying, disgusting, cheating scumbag. If that's good enough for you fill your boots, but if it was my dh he would be out on his arse.

barryfromclareisfit · 17/04/2019 19:40

Please remove this arsewipe from your life.

Mapofthesoul · 17/04/2019 19:44

12 times! And the trouble he must have gone to to do the arranging/driving etc.

I think I would find it easier to forgive a one off unplanned fling that he regretted.

FifisLovelyApron · 17/04/2019 20:28

I’ve been seeing a counsellor and she keeps saying that we do have strong relationship worth fighting for. I have been through all the arguments you have put forward with her and she said that trust will take a long time to rebuild but a lot of marriages end up stronger after an infidelity.

What qualifications does your counsellor have?

Actually even if she has qualifications up to the ceiling, she is still allowing her personal biases to affect how she treats you. That's really not good. She should be working towards helping you achieve personal happiness or whatever your goal is, not trying to make your marriage last because it will feel like an achievement for her.

It might be an idea to try another counsellor.

ChuckleBuckles · 17/04/2019 20:33

OP get a new therapist, your current one is full of shit. the next time they trot out that line about marriages becoming stronger after infidelity ask who you should fcuk? I mean it is only fair that you put in the hard work of "strengthening" your marriage too.

As for the excrement that is your husband, I had one like him, only admitted when confronted with evidence that he could not deny, it was "only" 6 prostitutes, he actually said that to me "only 6" continued lying, lied to his therapist, blamed me for this as I had been abused as a child, they don't change.

Do yourself a favour and go to the chumplady blog, lots of advice there, get a support system around you, get financial advice, legal advice and then walk. I stayed in the beginning and "fought" for my relationship, I loved him, I wanted us to be together, a year in I found out more, there is always more.

It does not get better, I am three years out, still have nightmares, anxiety, and treated for PTSD, I am a shadow of the person I was.Don't be me.

Al2O3 · 17/04/2019 20:38

Stay and you condone what he has done and he will just find ways of hiding it better in future.

justthecat · 17/04/2019 20:44

Stop wasting your time and life on him, he’s not worth it and you can do better , you’d be looking out for the next signs all the time

TheGodmother · 17/04/2019 21:10

Your counsellor said you had a strong relationship!!!! I recommend a new counsellor, blimey what a load of shit.

Sadly I was with a kind, caring and amazing man for over 20 years. Great sex life, even after all those years. It was only in the last month of our relationship that I found out he'd been fucking anything that moved for the whole time.

I wish wish wish I'd found out earlier. He won't change, he can't change.

Leave before it's too late.

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