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Husband used ‘massage’ parlours numerous times. How to move on?

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Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:03

So I’ve found out that my husband of 9 years have made repeat visits to ‘massage’ parlours for ‘happy endings’.
Found a couple of old messages on his iPad by accident and confronted him straight away. He denied it for a week claiming it was just a fantasy but both messages had him saying ‘I’m in the street, what’s your door number’ so I refused to believe him. He eventually fessed up but it took him a week where I was in a complete shock, could not sleep, eat or focus.
He tried to play it down saying that although it’s been going on for 5 months, he only had gone a couple of times.
Well, by this stage I had cross checked his blocked numbers against his car satnav and google searching the number + massage and I knew it was more than that.
Cut the long story short, he finally said that it was more like 10 times and gave me full access to his phone and iCloud so i accessed all his old deleted WhatsApp messages and I know it was actually 12 times he paid the hookers to get his end away. He claims it was ‘just’ hand jobs at the end of a naked body to body massage but there are 5 messages where he asks if they would do full Dec with the massage. Each time the response is ‘no’ but that does not mean that he could not have called to book full sex with someone else... not that it would make it any worse as he has done enough to make me feel disgusted and utterly betrayed.
Yet... I am still thinking that we should give our relationship a go, I do love him.
Let’s be clear, I do t need him and I have lived by myself before - perfectly happily. But other than this the relationship was perfect! Can’t believe I’m even saying this as clearly it was not but we had good sex life, lovely holidays and a good social life.
He is not sure why he did it, says the first time it happened it was after a normal massage - she offered him an extra and he did not say no... and then he got a taste for it and. Kept going. He also says that he was worried about not being able to come as often as he used to (I’d every night) but he is in his late forties! And I thought I made it clear to him that I did not mind - because I did not. He has always complimented me on my figure/ looks etc and says it has nothing to do with me not being sexy enough, it’s just his stupidity.
I want us to stay together but it’s been over 2 months since I found out and I’m still having thoughts about him actually paying someone to wxxnk him off and other women sliding their pert bodies over his.
I was a complete wreck for a month but have pulled myself together out of the black hole and I’m now starting to think logically. But perhaps I should think with my heart? Opinions and experiences welcome...

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Aquamarine1029 · 17/04/2019 18:08

I'm sorry about this, op, but if he were my husband his arse would be out the door. Absolutely disgusting behaviour. How can you EVER trust him again? You let him get away with this and I guarantee he will do it again. Why wouldn't he?

HJWT · 17/04/2019 18:11

Its one thing to CHEAT on the person you love but to PAY TO CHEAT is just vile!

SandyY2K · 17/04/2019 18:12

I’m now starting to think logically.

What do you mean by this? That you want to stay with him?

He asked if they would go the while way, so he was very prepared to have sex with other women on more than one occasion.

The fact that they refused is really neither her nor there.

My view is that by staying where you are, the message he receives is that this is acceptable behaviour and not a dealbreaker for you.

His intention is key here. Added to which he lied at every junction, until you had irrefutable evidence.

Would he be okay if you had massages and had your clitoris massaged to orgasm by a masseuse?

YouJustDoYou · 17/04/2019 18:16

This is why you can never, ever, fully trust. The most perfect relationships can hide the man happily going and doing these things with other women/men, and just not caring who it hurts. OP, my dh did similar. That was 8 years ago. I STILL wake from having horrible nightmares about it. I can never quite trust him again. The relationship was never the same, and everything changed. You can never go back to how things were.

Do I regret staying? No, because I got children put of it which, for various reasons, was all I ever wanted. Had I had a good career, and could've been self sufficient, and already had children - I would've left. Hands down.

Harebel · 17/04/2019 18:18

FGS give yourself a happy ending and ditch this loser.

I wouldn't even quiz him about why he did it and how it happened as I just couldn't be fucking bothered with a liar and a cheat and a man who pays for sex. It's pathetic. I couldn't love, trust or respect someone who did this to me. Good luck.

Loopytiles · 17/04/2019 18:18

LTB.

WellErrr · 17/04/2019 18:20

Move on to whatever you want to do....but jettison this sack of crap first.

Honestly - surely you can’t even consider staying with him!?

Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:21

I know! But I just cannot reconcile the sweet, caring guy with this behaviour. He would routinely pick me up from a train station if I was coming home late - just to spend some extra time with me, buy flowers, jewellery and other stuff for no reason other than to show me he loved me! Not that I could not afford it myself but it’s lovely when someone makes u feel special. And he’s v good at it. He has tried to make amends since like paying for holidays (normally we would split 50/50), helping more around the house, swears he would never do it again. And I just keep thinking that perhaps he does mean it? But then I remember the deceit and how premeditated some of these encounters were. For example, he research hookers (to me they are all prostitutes) 100 miles away when he knew he would have to drive to pick something up for the house. (Un)fortunately a friend is v good with IT and helped me put together a v detailed timeline. So while I don’t know everything I do know a lot.
It’s a second marriage for both of us...

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CaMePlaitPas · 17/04/2019 18:22

Yuck, nope.

Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:25

I am also concerned about the effect a second divorce would have on my v traditional elderly parents. It is NOT the reason I’m staying but I have to admit this is a consideration.

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Aquamarine1029 · 17/04/2019 18:26

He is very good at being a lying, manipulative piece of shit who has done nothing but gaslight you, yes.

YouJustDoYou · 17/04/2019 18:26

He would routinely pick me up from a train station if I was coming home late - just to spend some extra time with me, buy flowers, jewellery and other stuff for no reason other than to show me he loved me!

Yes. His is otherwise known as "feeling guilty as fuck".

Prokupatuscrakedatus · 17/04/2019 18:26

Tell him you've found a job - in such a place obviously, as it's just normal and nothing to make a fuss about.
You'll see how fast the mysogynistic hypocrite shows his true colors.

YouJustDoYou · 17/04/2019 18:26

*This

MrsMoastyToasty · 17/04/2019 18:31

Get yourself checked for STI's.
Your parents aren't a consideration. They're not inside the marriage.

Anothernew1 · 17/04/2019 18:32

Please have some self respect, you are worth more than staying with a cheating waste of space. What makes you think you don't deserve better? Your family would understand and I would hope they would encourage you to LTB

Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:32

Perhaps I am not thinking logically after all. I’ve been seeing a counsellor and she keeps saying that we do have strong relationship worth fighting for. I have been through all the arguments you have put forward with her and she said that trust will take a long time to rebuild but a lot of marriages end up stronger after an infidelity.
However, in my mind this could only be true if there was a reason for adultery and the reason had been addressed. Ie not enough communication or sex - for whatever reason- in the relationship. So if you fix the underlying problem, logically, this would give me reassurance that he would not reoffend. But in my case I think we have a personality flaw. It just seems so unreal! All my friends in whom I’ve confided were extremely shocked, all of them said that they would have never suspected him!

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Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:33

I had him checked, all clear - he showed me the texts.

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HundredMilesAnHour · 17/04/2019 18:34

I don't understand how he cheated on you at least 12 times with women he paid yet you are wondering if you can make a go of things with him still. Wtf?! He saw you coming, didn't he? He's lied repeatedly, he's cheated repeatedly....you need to kick him out. If it was your first marriage, would you even be hesitating? So why is it different for a second marriage? Maybe he was a decent guy once (or maybe he was just better at hiding it) but now he's a sleazebag. You're worth more than this.

LeekMunchingSheepShagger · 17/04/2019 18:34

Ask him if it would be ok if you went and did this with a male masseur who gives happy endings.

I would feel sick even looking at dh if he did this. I would never be able to let him near me again.

99calmbeforethestorm · 17/04/2019 18:42

He said for sexual kicks with other women. He tried to arrange sex with prostitutes, he may have for all you know. He has repeatedly lied to you when he was found out. I really don’t think I could forgive and forget.

There is a lot of talking about your relationship been worth you fighting for (btw) your therapist should NOT be telling you what to do but other than paying money for holidays (theme of paying women for services here) he doesn’t seem to be doing much fighting for your relationship.

GummyGoddess · 17/04/2019 18:43

Would he still be doing it if you hadn't found out?

WellErrr · 17/04/2019 18:47

He’ll still be doing it regardless. They don’t stop, they just get better at hiding it.

Plus, you’ve stayed with him. That tells him loud and clear where your boundaries are.

I really feel for you. But FFS, start feeling for yourself!

Bengal12 · 17/04/2019 18:48

Probably... I did ask him and he did not deny...

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HollowTalk · 17/04/2019 18:50

There's a good novel by Freya North about this. Love Rules.

I think you know what you have to do, OP.

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