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Dh has died - the MN Aunties are helping me keep on

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JuanPotatoTwo · 29/03/2017 17:10

New thread, not very imaginative title sorry! I can't remember how to link - having a blank moment.

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DramaAlpaca · 13/05/2017 23:00

Awww, just look at that sleepy puppy! He's adorable.

bookbook · 13/05/2017 23:13

Nothing like your own bed :)
and on that note, I wish everyone a good night's sleep.

Chasingsquirrels · 13/05/2017 23:43

Bertie is adorable, we had Cocker spaniels growing up and exH and I had one, she died in 2008. Ds2 would love a puppy, I wouldn't be adverse myself but st the moment I don't think I can cope with the responsibility. Springers are just mad though.

Glad safely home Drama and the milk & booze made me laugh.

I also thought wtg you about the cinema bar Juan. It would be totally out of my comfort zone atm.
Hope you get some sleep x

DramaAlpaca · 13/05/2017 23:56

Glad it made you laugh Chasing. You've got it all to come with your boys, just give it a year or two! Wink

You are right about springers - every one I've had has been mad as a box of frogs, but I wouldn't have them any other way. I just love them. They are a lot of responsibility though, too much sometimes.

echt · 14/05/2017 02:46

Knock knock, ding dong. May I join the thread?

I've read the last ten pages and it's both heartening and sad to read about all your experiences, some I know from other threads.

Today is Mother's day, always an odd one for us as it's also always the weekend that DD has a birthday party, so tons of clearing up rather than breakfast in bed. Hmm This time last year DH made a speech for DD's 21st. Someone recorded it on their phone and it's almost unbearable.

But then's there the bracing effect of the last Mother's Day note DH wrote and stuck up in the kitchen: "Get me a cup of fucking tea, it's Mother's Day." :o It's still there. The morning tea was what I always did, then DH would get up and make breakfast, which was his job.

magimedi · 14/05/2017 08:45

What bravery, Juan. Well done.

Waves to echt - I remember your threads about your DH - am I right that you are 'down under'?

bookbook · 14/05/2017 08:48

Morning all
Juan hope the sleep genie came to you.
Well, woken up to rain at long last - it started in the night, and just stopping now, it will help everything enormously. So I will be off shortly to the allotment - perfect for planting and sowing. Busy-ish day as all the family due for the afternoon and a meal.
echt - lovely to see you - what is the weather like down there ? ( I hesitate to say this , but a whole year? It just doesn't seem feasible ..)

Haven't had a dog since I was a child. My DF brought home a puppy, - a mongrel , but to be posh, he was cross bred terrier :) - we named him Rin Tin Tin ( is anyone old enough to remember him? )
Hope everyone has a good Sunday

daisychain01 · 14/05/2017 08:57

Hello everyone sorry for my gap in posting! Hope you all have a restful / enjoyable Sunday doing nice things.

Yay we have had rain and more to come. The grass is like blotting paper after so much drought, it does look a bit greener.

juan have you recovered now and feeling better after your migraine the other day? x

squirrels how is work going? Hopefully a soft start and giving you some routine, which I have to say I found very helpful to have a sense of purpose, so long as absolutely no major deadlines or stress.

echt sorry to ask, it sounds from your post that you also lost your DH? Sorry I didn't see your thread so hope I'm not getting it wrong. If you did, I'm so sorry for your loss x

Chasingsquirrels · 14/05/2017 09:04

More than welcome echt, for all the wrong reasons. I often think of you.

Chasingsquirrels · 14/05/2017 09:58

Hi DaisyChain work went okay last week, will see how this week goes...

We also had rain overnight but it looks a bit brighter, hope the gardens and allotments all looking well.

I've just been reading a thread about a dh not wanting sex and one poster commented about sex, but also a bit the casual touching of each other. It made me realise how much I miss that, not groping but just sitting together, cuddling, a hug & kiss, stroking an arm in passing or giving a squeeze. John and I were always touching each other and I really miss that physical contact and expression of our love.

I've been posting a bit on WAY and have been on a thread with someone who joined the same time as me. They gave me their mobile no. and last night we spend about 3 hours on and off on WhatsApp talking about our spouse, their illness (also cancer), our kids, our grief. It was really weird, but so good to talk to someone who "gets it". And not to feel like it was all about me & my grief, but also that I was equally helpful to them (I hope).

Not sure what we are doing today, I feel like I should DO SOMETHING with the kids, but I don't know what. Things have changed over the last year - obviously, but not only John's illness and death but also the kids getting older. So a few years ago we'd go to an NT place and have a walk, or go to the coast for a couple of hours and the kids would moan about going but have a good time, but not only have we not done that for over a year partly due to the consumption of our lives by John's illness but partly because the boys are also older and less interested.
I think if I suggested it, they'd go along with it - but for me. And does a 14yo really want to go round the local NT trim trail with his mum and younger brother?
Plus, my enthusiasm levels for anything are pretty low.
Hmm, maybe swimming - I'll have a look at the tical pool timetables. They'd like the inflatables time, but not sure I can face that. I could send them in on their own, but that defeats the point of us all spending time together.
Oh dear, I wish I had hobbies.

echt · 14/05/2017 10:21

magimedi, yes, I'm in Australia.
bookbook, a year at the end of June. Shock Time flies when, oh, you're having bit of a shit time, though there have been good bits, too. Smile The weather is a very brisk late autumn with cloudless sunny days and bloody cold nights. I pray we don't get what we had last year, which was effectively winter from May to December.
daisy, yes, my DH died suddenly of a cerebral aneurysm last year. He was only 61.
I'm glad your return to work went well, squirrels. I know what you mean about hobbies. I took up choir this year, the songs are horrible, compounded by the fact I am alto and have to do all the difficult harmonies, but the getting out is good, and the people are very nice. As a teacher, with loads of marking to do, there's always a reason to stay in -and not do it anyway-.

magimedi · 14/05/2017 10:24

Chasing - I know a lot of people with young teens are very into geocaching - it's like a treasure hunt & you leave your mark on the spot.

From a quick google: www.gagb.org.uk/what-is-geocaching.php

and if you did a search on Mumsnet I know there have been lots of threads about it.

Chasingsquirrels · 14/05/2017 10:42

I don't think they'd let me in a choir echt

Chasingsquirrels · 14/05/2017 10:45

posted too soon...

I am totally tone deaf. It's good that you have found something for you.

The boys and I used to geocache quite a bit before I got together with John. That's a really good idea, thanks.

echt · 14/05/2017 10:47

:o squirrels, this choir has no auditions. Enthusiasm or bust, which in my case is just as well. I hear music perfectly so not tone deaf, but can't read it.

daisychain01 · 14/05/2017 10:56

squirrels- I was chatting with a swimming friend and they joined a People's Choir and said what an amazingly therapeutic experience it is. Everyone 'can't sing' and that's the point. It doesn't really matter. In fact she said they have all improved a lot from the weekly practice and the breathing techniques are fab for combatting stress and for a general feeling of well being. If it floats your boat, why not give it a try? I totally get what you described re human contact. Me and DH were very huggy people, so the loss is acute from that perspective Sad ((hug non-MN style))

Echt I am so sorry about your DH, my DH had a heart aneurism no warning. It's all so dreadful, no matter how we lose our beloved's, each way is equally tragic. I hope the contact on here is helpful. I didn't know about MN when DH died, and floundered around for a long time trying to make sense of the weirdness of some of my reactions and behaviours from the shock. I suppose I learned to accept my car-crash behaviour as being due to shock!

daisychain01 · 14/05/2017 10:58

Geocaching is great.

echt · 14/05/2017 11:14

daisy, I was fortunate to be an oldie on MN, so had lots of wonderful support from general MNers and Gardeners. I know what you about the car crash behaviour and am not sure I'm past it yet. Day-to-day, especially at work I'm fine, but it's as if I can hold onto all the crap at work, and then flip at nothing when I get home.

daisychain01 · 14/05/2017 11:33

Aww kindred spirits then echt so much of what I did back then was out of character I either have to be all Blush about it or soldier on and try to get through. Nowadays I'm a lot more Grin in the knowledge there is only one life, so no point beating myself up lol.

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 14/05/2017 13:36

Hello all. A bit of normality. Hoovered my car out including 3 car seats and the pushchair and put all the covers in the wash, stripped the bed too.

We've been out for a cheeky McDs and fed the ducks too. Town was over run with tourists.

Mother's day for my mum too. I sent her a card/small gift back before Easter in one parcel as postage is so expensive! Bless her, she's waited till today to open it!

Off to do food shop and fill car up in a bit and then just planning on flaking for the rest of the day.

Tomorrow DS has a special class assembly at 1:15 which is just the pits because then I either need to go home after and go back again at home time or hang around in the library for about an hour with the other 2 smalls. Never mind. He'll remember that mummy and his friends came to see him.

Sending hugs to you all and welcome Echt - I recognise your name as a long term lurker and regular name changer....

Bertie is toooooo cute! How old is he now?

Willow2017 · 14/05/2017 14:22

Juan that was certainly an interesting evening😀
I am the same would take a lot to get me to go out on my own. Have gone to theatre but never just to a bar.

Echt sorry to hear about your husband what an awful shock.

Sun shining here but had to run out and bring in washing as had a heavy shower of rain too. Raining yesterday morning too so didn't get into garden or get the lawn field cut either. Went to town with ds2 to get joggers. He has his end of primary school residential coming up and needs joggers. He is growing out of all his they are halfway up his ankles. Kids got haircuts ds1 is short and shaped now I keep having to look twice it's just so different from his long floppy style.

Will need to do the dreaded 'clothes trying on' soon to get him kitted out for the holidays and drag him into town for new pool shoes. God teens can be hard work.

JuanPotatoTwo · 14/05/2017 20:04

Hello echt, I recognise your name but didn't know you'd lost your dh too. I'm so very sorry to hear that but I'm glad you've come and joined us, and I hope we can all continue to be a help and support to each other. I don't know how I would have got through these last 11 weeks (11 weeks tomorrow morning) without my wonderful Aunties.

My rl friends have been incredible and although they all say to pick up the phone any time of night or day, I haven't been able to bring myself to ring anyone at 3am! So having this mn support has been so so helpful. It's also acted as a bit of a diary because I look back now on those first few weeks and it's all a fog - I remember vaguely what was going on but not details. In times to come I know I will be glad that I have posted something on here almost every day. I still can't read back my own posts yet but I know they're there.

Hi daisy nice to see you, sounds like you've been busy. Migraine totally gone now thank you. magi and book your prayers for rain have been answered! Willow and Cake it sounds like you've both had busy productive days.

Squirrels I've just got out of the shower, and when I was in there I was thinking exactly what you've said above about physical contact. There have been hugs and hand holdings aplenty over the last weeks but it's not the same, and I miss so much Mark's arms around me. We too were very tactile, we held hands whenever we were out, cuddled each other in passing in the house, sat up close when watching tv with my feet in his lap etc. I miss being touched with love like that :(. I don't want anyone else to be doing it, just him. Dd said to me when her relationship with her boyfriend was fairly new that she wanted him to look at her the way Mark looked at me, and to say to her what he always said about me which was that I was always the most beautiful woman in the room Blush. I absolutely definitely was not, I'm very average, but the point is that Mark believed what he was saying. And that sort of uncritical unconditional love doesn't come along too often in one's lifetime :(

There's a big choir scene here too - a rock choir thing I believe. It's not my cup of tea at all but everyone I know who's joined it (and there seem to be hundreds of them!) absolutely loves it. I wouldn't fret too much about doing stuff with your boys Squirrels, sometimes nice laid back times at home together are better than anything else. My ds3 is such a homebird that if I suggest going out he'll agree to please me, but really he'd much prefer to be at home.

I've been for a lovely long walk along the river today with a friend. We parked up, walked about two miles and had lunch and a look round the shops, then walked back to the car just in time to miss the rain!

I've been ok today except for a brief bout of tears over lunch where I remembered something that happened the night Mark died. If I'm repeating myself I'm sorry but at one point in the early hours of the Monday morning I was sat by his side holding his hand and looking at his face when a tear slipped out of his left eye :(. He was sedated and on the ventilator by this point so I think it can only have been some sort of biological occurrence but I wondered then, and now, if somehow that was the moment he knew subconsciously he wasn't coming back this time :(. I've made myself cry again now - off to find some Maltesers to cheer me up!

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TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 14/05/2017 20:11

Oh Juan you can repeat things as many time as you want/need to. I know that Sunday evenings/mondays are hard. Look forward to giving you a big hug on Tuesday (and will bring tissues).

Glad you dodged the rain, we've had lots in the nights and on and off this afternoon and apparently more tomorrow

bookbook · 14/05/2017 21:07

evening
been a busy day - all the family have gone, kitchen cleaned and tidy, dishwasher on. Then needed to go and sort out all my plants that are outside to try and outwit the slugs . Sat now , and just about ready for a ittle bit of knitting .
Juan I think repeating/remembering things that have happened helps to come to terms with all the shifting sands - so don't worry about it. Hope the maltesers work for you .
Willow - wonder if its as hard for girls than boys trying on clothes. DD!1was fine with it, DD2 was a nightmare - hated it with a passion . So good luck.
I was in a choir at school ( gosh , the mists of time!) and I can still remember the words to most of the songs we learned, and I loved it. Never sung since.
The calendar on my kitchen wall is full of scribbles - looking after DGS and fitting in with what is going on is like pinning jelly on the wall - we are now on plan c or is it d ? I think I know what is happening this week, but who knows!

Chasingsquirrels · 14/05/2017 21:16

I just to pretended to sing in assemblies at school, really not my thing. Although I'm not sure what is!

Just back from my parents, lovely weather. They had friends staying for the weekend who had been to a bbq this afternoon - they came back and said it had rained, just down the road and not a cloud to be seen nor a drop of rain at my parents.

I'm not actually a tactile person, I'm uncomfortable kissing and hugging people in greeting and I rarely hug my parents although I definitely recall cuddling up with my mum. But with John I just wanted to touch him, and he was the same. Ds2 is very cuddly and will sit with me if we are watching TV.