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Onit's still on it! Thread 3

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onitlikeacarbonnet · 23/11/2016 13:49

Hello to anyone who's still here Smile

Links to previous threads.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2658829-Anyone-up-DH-is-leaving-me

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2690159-Anyone-up-DH-is-leaving-me-follow-up-thread-Onits-on-it

I'm carrying on with this as I'm certain I'd be in a much unhappier state without the support I've received here.
This has become my journal of sorts and I hope it's something I can look back on in time to see how far I've come.
I also hope it helps to document the truth of my situation for the future and perhaps, if read by others, will offer help and hope to them too.

OP posts:
Kittencatkins123 · 09/05/2017 22:31

Btw having two jobs isn't necc a good thing!!!!! They could be two shit arse jobs that she barely does because she's such a stupid twat. (Not dissing anyone with more than one job who isn't a twat - just twats getting dissed here) xxx

underitoveritthroughit · 15/05/2017 01:01

My youngest had her assembly on Friday. I had a text asking if I'd sit with him like last time. I said no. Tried to delete it but he obviously got it and he replied that it was a shame since the dc would both prefer it. I countered, sit where you like.
And guess what?
He was late.
Again.
So late in fact I had dd onstage mouthing "where's daddy?" at me and I'm doing the shrugged shoulders/palms up 🤷‍♀️ thing.
When he did come he had to stand and watch through the door till they were finished then, when the head started with the pupil of the week certificates, he slipped in and sat in her seat Shock.
Ironically, the only free seat with the parents was right next to me.
Fucking arsehole told dd afterwards that he was late because he got the wrong information about the time it started. Obviously can't be at fault himself Angry Knobend!

The dc went to their flat for lunch over the weekend so I guess it's only a matter of time before the sleepovers start.
I wonder if he'll let the other flat lease go? It's only a few weeks till school finishes for the summer and I'm waiting for the requests for his afternoons to become sleepovers.
I'll refuse but I might have to think about tweaks to the schedule so I can keep up my counselling (though I might be able to ask my friends/family/random punter in the street for some of them and I'll do that first)

I didn't tell new guy about me being off in the end, just said my shifts were swapped. He didn't ask any more.
I think I'm still in that phase of it being so good it's almost like unreality. And, if I start talking too much about real life there, it'll lose that otherworldlyness where nothing bad ever happens. I guess it's why I don't like to mention my weight loss either.
He doesn't know the old me.
And I don't want him to.
She's gone and good riddance.
Just wish I could shake the rest of the horrors from my past.

However, I am still struggling when reality sinks in. I've had distractions this week but the lows have been pretty low. It's quite a funk I'm in and the new AD's are not doing much yet but fucking with my sleep and giving me a sore throat Hmm

I'm going to visit my friend with the dcs next weekend which I'm looking forward to. It's been too long. But it's yet another anniversary because last year we all went to visit but it was the weekend after LCB had first dropped the bombshell that he wasn't happy, but not yet gone nuclear with admitting the affair. I did ask as I'd suspected but he denied it at that point. I spent that entire weekend being the best version of me I could be. Putting myself on trial for him. To decide if I was worth the trouble. When he had no intention of staying. Yet another of the unforgivable things he did to me in the last 14 months.

Once upon a time that realisation would've made me so angry. Now I just want to cry.

Not because I want the cunting bastard back, but because I'm devastated that I had so little self esteem that I basically tried to sell my soul to the devil for a comfortable life with no money worries and the nice, middle class life.

I hate myself for doing it. I'm a stupid, shallow, money grabbing bitch Sad who sold my soul for a man who didn't deserve it.
How do I ever forgive myself?
The thought of my dd doing that or ds becoming like his dad just sickens me. And, because of my actions, there's a chance that'll happen.

I'm still shallow and self serving. I'd kill to go back there. Take my dc back to their family unit. The unit they both want. And I can't give them.

Kittencatkins123 · 15/05/2017 07:57

You weren't selling your soul for a middle class life - you were trying to keep your family together. He's a cruel bastard for putting you through that. He's just a selfish lying scumbag full stop!

Don't worry about your kids - they are with you and they will be awesome. Neither me or my brother turned out anything like my twattish father.

Mix56 · 15/05/2017 08:36

no, your weren't selling your soul, just trying not to drown.
re LCB being late, You know you can tell DD the gentle truth.
why paint him in a good light ?
You are a better woman than me.

Splishing · 15/05/2017 10:06

Onit had to post since so much of your last post resonates with me. I too have lots of one year since anniversaries coming up over the next few weeks. Trying my best not think about it but at the same know they are getting me down and it's really hard not to dwell on it even when you don't want to.

I too look back at how I behaved through the weeks of my marriage breaking down and am ashamed and embarrassed at how I dealt with it all. I wasn't exactly the finest example of how to handle it. But then when my friends tell I was doing my best to save my marriage, protect my children etc then I know I tried my best. I maybe didn't go about it the right way all the time but I can at least say I tried. Whereas my STBXH said he wanted to work on our marriage but his way to do was to start sleeping with someone else. So as hard as it is please don't beat yourself up. I too would give everything to have life they way it used to be. But know that won't happen. It's a hard thing to accept at times and still gets me upset especially with DC ask when dad is coming home. Really understand how you are feeling just now.

nigelsbigface · 15/05/2017 20:20

Onit you were trying to save your marriage and keep your family together, probably despite a lot of manipulation that you were st that stage unaware of from LCB.
You need not beset yourself up on that or any score quite frankly.
Are you finding it harder with the anniversary of it all approaching do you think? I did-had a real blip around then-but since have actually been a bit better...maybe it will be the same for you. Take some time to reflect on how far you've come. And the great things that are happening for you now which weren't even on the horizon this time last year.What a journey! And it's not over yet. I know how hard it's been and it continues to be-but bloody hell girl-you have moved mountains this year. And maybe the positives will soon outweigh the negatives-you're on your way-hang in there xx

underitoveritthroughit · 15/05/2017 23:37

It feels like every day there's something to remind me of last year!

I've turned off the 'on this day' thing on fb as a start.

nigelsbigface · 16/05/2017 10:28

Yes god fb time-honoured is like a torture device!

underitoveritthroughit · 16/05/2017 18:21

Omfg!
I just found out from the dc that LCB has an invitation to a fucking garden party at fucking Buckingham palace ShockHmm

I'm really not feeling that karma is doing its job Sad

AgathaF · 16/05/2017 19:03

Hopefully it'll rain.

underitoveritthroughit · 16/05/2017 20:05

Thank you Agatha Grin

nigelsbigface · 17/05/2017 06:56

What for? Services to being a massive dick?
Karma is a long game Onit...

underitoveritthroughit · 17/05/2017 08:35

I'm off to mediation shortly.
I have a docs appointment this afternoon.
I'm a crap liar and new guy called me out on it last night. I fudged over it and he dropped it but there's a possibility I'll see him tomorrow and I think I'm going to have to come clean. I feel guilty about lying.

I have my list for mediation.
I'm averaging under 4 hrs sleep even with a sedative and this morning I'm actually shaking. Unsure if that's lack of sleep or nerves.

Got to head now to get the train.
I'll update after mediation.

Kittencatkins123 · 17/05/2017 10:17

Our old neighbour at my parents house went to that garden party. He was a perfectly ordinary boring man. It's a load of bullshit. Karma can be a long time coming but it's in the post (maybe second class).
What have you got planned for you and the kids this summer? Why don't you have your own (way more fun) garden party?!

nigelsbigface · 17/05/2017 10:56

And invite us all to it Grin
Best of luck for today onit-sending you all the strength...

weatherbomb · 17/05/2017 11:31

wishing you good wishes and happier times onit.

Fuzzywuzzywasawoman42 · 17/05/2017 11:35

I don't like you saying 'good riddance' to the old you onit Sad
The old you was just as good a person as the new you. There is no room in your life for that kind of self loathing...you don't deserve that and neither does old you. Old you deserves to be cherished and valued like new you does.
Lcb did not treat you the way he did because of who you were then- how you behaved or what you weighed. He treated you badly because he was bad. You tried to make it better because you are good. Don't punish yourself for wanting what we all want and trying to keep your family together the only way you knew how.
Be kind to yourselfFlowers

Also...while I'm here..Grin be ready onit because the being late is just the start.... he'll get more & more distracted with his new life. Despite all the shit he's put you all through to see his dc, he will inevitably be shit at turning up- cancel at the last minute, leave them with other people until requests dwindle.
All the while telling others you're blocking him.
My crystal ball tells me this.
He's a loser.

Mix56 · 17/05/2017 12:19

You said before that you could just be yourself with bf.
I would say that is where you should be with him, if he asks, don't make it secrets & shame.
You are who you are.
Just my opinion

AgathaF · 17/05/2017 18:35

I think you should just tell new guy, in a matter of fact/keep it light sort of way. It's nothing to be ashamed of, or feel that you should need to hide. And if he was similarly in a bad place at the moment, wouldn't you want him to feel he could mention it to you?

It's understandable that you should have low periods in amongst the better times. Better to go with it and accept it than to try to hide it.

Hope the mediation went ok. Maybe its the mediation hanging over your head that is making it more difficult than it needs to be just now.

nigelsbigface · 17/05/2017 22:18

How was today onit?

underitoveritthroughit · 19/05/2017 01:56

Lost a post on Wednesday and didn't notice Blush
Maybe just as well. I was almost at my lowest point.
Mediation was as I expected.
I got most of my points over, though I was self regulating and in that process it all seemed so petty.
Bedtimes and chicken nuggets Blush
He said he misses the dc and would do anything to spend more time with them.
(Like moving into a city centre 1 bed flat with your gf 10 minutes from work and an hours drive from school)
He asked if I'd consider them sleeping over on a Sunday night and I said no. And I will continue to say no until the dc are able to take responsibility for their own school bags, uniforms etc.
I just kept saying that they were doing as well as could be expected and why would he want to risk destabilising them. He has 2 flats ffs! I already have to reset them after a stay with him as they sometimes don't know where they are when they wake up.
I mean where would they stay? Potentially 1 night at his and ow, next at his mums and the next at his unlived in flat.

They could be in 4 different beds in 4 nights Shock. If he thinks that's an acceptable way to treat the dc, I'd be arguing that he always said he couldn't sleep the first night in a different bed. Why should he force his dc into that scenario.

I made my point about the "payback" thing. Not sure what he said obviously but he agreed that in the future he wouldn't demand time back.

He also said he wanted a face to face meeting with me. I said no way and, given I was shaking and jittery because I thought I could hear him through 2 closed doors, the mediator was ok with that. She actually said she didn't think it was a good idea.

God, I hate myself for even thinking it but, god I hope that is how it goes Fuzzy
I'd love him to disappear from my world and, if I could remove him from my memory, I totally would.

I was a different person a year ago. I was even more different 18 months ago.

I'm feeling much better today.
I went to the gp after mediation and have been signed off for 3 weeks. That's taken a bit of pressure off I think.
I saw my bf (did I just call him that? Smile) today and we had a lovely, lazy day.
And, once I got the dc back from LCB and settled in bed, I had my book club round.
First time in my house. I was nervous. This house is not like my old place. But it went very well. Though no one particularly liked my book Hmm not even me tbh Grin

I'm looking forward to seeing my friend, her dp and kids this weekend. We haven't visited since before we moved. It was almost exactly a year ago when we last visited as a family of 4, and LCB had told me he was unhappy and thinking of leaving though denied that there was another woman. I spent that weekend trying to prove I was worthy of him and pretending to my best friend that everything was normal.

I'm feeling stronger today but there is a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach when I think about going back there. I know I'm stronger than I was then but he lives in my memories of my friends and, I think because she hasn't seen what he's done Day to day for years and years, and likes to see the good in people, she doesn't get my fear and loathing of him,
When I tell her he's a psychopath, she nods but I know she thinks I'm overreacting.
She's my oldest friend. I love her like a sister. I need to know I can let the crazy out this weekend if necessary. But I'm worried that I dip while I'm there.
But, the dc will have a blast so that's the main thing.

Anyway, epic post I fear. And time for bed 2 hours ago.

Thanks again for the pep talk. Apologies if it seemed I ignored you.

Wallywobbles · 19/05/2017 05:21

Onit don't shoot me but I wonder whether dragging it out is just making it worse by giving you too much time to dwell on each shitty part. If the process was accelerated through massively then it would be more of a plaster ripping process. It would still hurt, but no more than each individual part and it'd be done with. Just a thought.

My divorce took 5 weeks which in retrospect was good, having lived through 3 of the 4 years of my now DHs divorce. Slow is worse. Once it's done you can actually start to heal. It's all coming anyway but wouldn't you rather it was behind you rather than in front of you?

nigelsbigface · 19/05/2017 13:18

Lots I wish my would take 5 weeks-st already been three months and we don't seem any closer.
It's a funny thing spending time with neutral friends.I love seeing mine but I'm always slightly wondering what he has said to them about me (mine like yours is good at subtle manipulation and acting the victim just the right amount).sometimes I just want to shake them and ask them why they can't see what he is.I don't because people have to make their own choices, and because to act like that would be to play into his hands I suspect.
Mostly I avoid ever mentioning him to them.Makes it easier all round.But honestly it does lead to a loss of closeness in the relationships to some degree.Another sad side effect of it all.
Nevertheless I hope you enjoy your weekend onit and that your friend surprises you by being more on your side than you fear she might be.
And he can get to fuck wanting his Sunday nights for now.Your reasons are valid for saying no, and that's that.

nigelsbigface · 19/05/2017 13:18

Wobbles, not lots!

Mix56 · 19/05/2017 13:59

Sunday nights, So he gets them up & drives an hour back to school on Monday morning? Fuck that.