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Dear NSTBXH

991 replies

WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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whyMe2014 · 18/11/2014 23:37

What is it with these manipulative, nasty little men - as you said - if only they could see themselves as others see them - unfortunately they look in the mirror an see some sort of adonis (albeit with no hair!) and their superiority knows no bounds. They truly believe they deserve better!

My stbxh said he deserved the Audi, he worked hard, he deserved his rest days, he worked hard, he deserve to spend his money how he like because it was his (doesn't matter that my wages were in there as well) and he worked hard. No one else matters in their little blinkered world but themselves. Of course we can never work as hard as them - he told me I couldn't compete with how tired he was! Ah bless.

Well i hope all these ass holes get what they truly deserve.

MrsC1969HJ · 19/11/2014 00:13

Hobbitwife001...you can ask for a GP referral...try that route, you may not have to pay. I didn't cry at all, despite being absolutely and totally shattered in every sense. Important to connect with your counsellor. You don't need anti ageing shit, just a pot of original blue Nivea. That's all.

springalong · 19/11/2014 10:48

Oh yes, the competitive tiredness and all though the divorce not one mention of my years of (significant) financial contributions. Let alone the rest of it!

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 20/11/2014 08:43

I hope your SHL is going to keep applying for wasted costs for all the hassle and duplications.

WellWhoKnew · 20/11/2014 09:25

I hope so too especially now the laptop has gone up in smoke! Which is going to make getting divorced a tad harder....

Given I can`t read word docs on my kindle!

So this money grabbing bitch is going to have to buy a new one and no doubt this will be used as hard core evidence of my frippery!

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IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 20/11/2014 15:51

Enjoy the fripping Wine

springalong · 20/11/2014 16:58

Over 4 years I have had no success at all in getting costs. My legal team are very wary about asking for them. I was taken to court over the summer on totally spurious grounds and even then couldn't get costs (fucking unqualified incompetent magistrates). It is part of the ongoing domestic abuse - financial.

WellWhoKnew · 20/11/2014 17:46

Well we can ask and the worst case scenario is we get told "no".

The last time we asked the judge wholeheartedly said "yes" but even the lovely SHB and SHL were surprised.

And he was a very grumpy judge. I think, from what I have learnt the behaviour has to be pretty extreme for costs to be awarded.

But we can still ask. Given his behaviour has got worse since then, and there is a remote possibility of getting the grumpy judge again....I may become unreasonably optimistic.

However I have done something very, very stupid so I going to have to write a very, very grovelling apology but not until my shiny new laptop arrives tomorrow as typing on a kindle is irksome.

I won't be sending no apology though because that was my married life. And I am getting divorced from that!

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IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 20/11/2014 18:14

A sparkly new laptop is an absolute necessity to keep up with his internet fuckwittedness. How could you be expected to answer all his irksome emails without being able to read them?

WellWhoKnew · 20/11/2014 18:24

'Sactly!

But NSTBXH will expect me to drive into town and use one in the library. Or break into the neighbour's homes or something. Cos that is reasonable innit?

This is the man who informed a judge that I should get the landlords to pay my heating bills, after all.

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MrsC1969HJ · 20/11/2014 18:41

My "husband" ranted at me that it was about time my Dad or brother paid our joint mortgage, because "why should he have to"....tossers.

Karenthetoadslayer · 20/11/2014 18:57

Oh I can join in this one: my ExToad emailed me to suggest that my parents should pay maintenance instead of him.

AcrossthePond55 · 20/11/2014 19:39

Parents pay maintenance, dad or brother pay the mortgage, break into the neighbour's house & use their computer. I just…..I can't……nope.

It's more than I can handle and I don't even know these knobheads with no knobs…….I need a drink.

I think I will be extra nice to DH tonight. Maybe bring him Brew and kiss his forehead as he watches telly. He may at times commit some twattishness, but never fuckwittery.

WellWhoKnew · 20/11/2014 21:45

But I have got BIL to pay the rest of my legal fees - phew! It was looking a bit scary for a few days. Of course, I will be paying him back, but NSTBXH has seen now who is funding this legal fight....

And realised, possibly, how disgusted everyone is by his behaviour.

More likely he is telling everyone that I am a Master Puppeteer.

Oh God...

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IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 20/11/2014 21:48

I'm sure your landlords would have been terribly impressed if you'd asked them to. If what he's taking is steroids I know they have some weird and wonderful side effects. I didn't realise scrambling his remaining brain cells was one of them. His wits are well and truly fucked!

WellWhoKnew · 20/11/2014 22:04

They laughed and offered me a cup of tea and a chat when I told them. As I say, the village is full of nice, friendly, supportive folks but they have in fact not offered to be generous to the idiot who ran away.

Funny that.

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Hobbitwife001 · 20/11/2014 23:41

But why is he doing this WWK? When he instigated the divorce, is there another woman involved or does he just want to punish you for having the gall to fight back instead of just curling up in a ball and agreeing to his proposal re financial settlement? Or is he just a twunt of the highest degree?
Thinking of you, x

WellWhoKnew · 20/11/2014 23:47

Cos he is "Master of the Universe".

Deluded Fucker in other words.

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Hobbitwife001 · 21/11/2014 00:06

Maybe the court could order a psychological evaluation, because I really don't think he understands what's happening half the time, it really is too cruel of you to toy with the fucker, maybe you could get him committed. Ha ha, you are amazingly resilient in the face of his fuckwittery, WWK.

WellWhoKnew · 21/11/2014 00:30

That as an idea has been contemplated but it is NOT in my best interests to have him committed...to prison or hospital.

He also, remember this, has a legal team...

So if he weren't of sound mind, they would be offering it as a defence.

They aren't.

The fuckwittery has an end date. I have gin, a SHL, a SHB, MN, a village, a good doctor and a BIL just to keep me on the right side of sane.

There may also be an AWOL voodoo doll to throw into the pot....but I am still too traumatised to write about that!

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NeedsAsockamnesty · 21/11/2014 00:34

Is BIL your brother or his.

If he's his I'm even more impressed with your talents than I was months ago when u started lurking on your threads

WellWhoKnew · 21/11/2014 00:42

Technically both of ours...but more mine! However they were close.

Think that relationship may be over too.

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NeedsAsockamnesty · 21/11/2014 00:47

I may be being dense (forgive me I'm shattered) but how can BIL be brother to you both?

NeedsAsockamnesty · 21/11/2014 00:48

And of course I meanti lurked on your threads you don't need to lurk what with being the author and all ;)

Hobbitwife001 · 21/11/2014 01:01

I asked one of my friends in the village WI, to knit me a voodoo doll of my ex , including genitals! Great minds think alike ! Don't know if the committee would approve though, actually they probably would. :)

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