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Dear NSTBXH

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WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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miniscule · 06/02/2015 09:44

Got nothing to add but just wanted to say I've lurked in both your threads and think you are amazing. I love the way you have kept your sense of humour and the way you write it all down.

KOKO.

CruCru · 07/02/2015 10:25

It probably isn't what you would have wanted but you may need another thread WWK.

WellWhoKnew · 07/02/2015 15:17

With a bit of luck Cru he'll have a moment of 'divine inspiration' this weekend and the end of the story is:

"Mr SW decided that the evil Queen WWK deserves some respect and decided to show her he could be a decent human being to enable her to skip off to the future as a happy human being..."

Back to reality: All currently quiet on the Western front. Long may it last...

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CruCru · 07/02/2015 18:16

Ah very good.

dobedobedo · 07/02/2015 21:01

WWK I'm starting to worry this thread will run out before you link to a new one. Grin

Also, KOKO. Luffs you xxx

WellWhoKnew · 07/02/2015 21:08

There's no news...so there's plenty of space yet. As soon as there is 'incoming', I'll start a new thread: don't worry. It's been my lifesaver for the last nine months, one week. I still don't have a life, so rest assured there will be thread No. 3!

It's odd though: thread No. 1 was him leaving, thread No.2 was started by the FDA.

So what the fuck is going to kick off thread No. 3?

So I'm reticent right now. I'm sure you understand...

But when the professionals in your divorce decide to have a humdinger of a row...you know you're kind of screwed...

I march on, anyway I can...

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Gibbsbasement · 07/02/2015 23:13

koko

Another longtime de-lurker 'uncloaks'.

You are my inspiration to koko. As long as you can... So can I. Thank you for sharing. Your strength helps me to believe If you can deal with your sociopath I can deal with mine.

I am behind you in the process and appreciate your insight, thank you.

Meerka · 07/02/2015 23:29

But when the professionals in your divorce decide to have a humdinger of a row...you know you're kind of screwed...

Oh dear oh dear ...

mistlethrush · 10/02/2015 22:00

I do like the idea of a gin cache from earlier... it might come in useful to deal with some of these shenanigans

ConfusedNC · 10/02/2015 22:13

You know I lost the plot with your thread sometime ago wwk. I keep dipping in hoping to see that light at end of tunnel getting a bit bigger. But I can't post anything constructive as I seriously have no handle on what is going on!

I'm supposed to be an intelligent woman. You dear wwk are a different league. Without the deadweight, you will fly!

WellWhoKnew · 11/02/2015 00:05

Hey Confused - hope you're bearing up yourself. Long story cut short.

STBXH is an arse.
I took him to court.
STBXH became a bigger arse.
I went back to court.
STBXH became an even bigger arse.
I went back to court again.
STBXH became the biggest arse imaginable
I am going back to court.
Possible twice more.
STBXH remains an arse.

In the interim, he sends emails denying he is an arse. I disagree so he demonstrates he is in actual fact an arse by being an even bigger arse.

How's your proceedings going?

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auntpetunia · 11/02/2015 06:57

That is the best summarisation ever. You WWK are amazing.

ConfusedNC · 11/02/2015 07:44

Auntpetunia is right. The summary is spot on. You know THAT bit, about the monstrous ever growing arsines, I had totally got that bit already! Wink

My own nstbxh has also stopped progressing the divorce he petitioned to. Turns out his shl was too expensive. Oh and he has quit his job, and he's still in our house paying the mortgage (so far) as I am having to pay rent elsewhere so our son has somewhere to live with me.

So I'm possibly changing to a new solicitor and I may end up having to divorce him. Not sure how I'll make time for all the legal fun as I'm up to eyeballs with work and ds. Still maybe my happy pills will kick in soon.

bobs123 · 11/02/2015 10:26

Just de-lurking to say I love reading your threads WWK . It might sounds bizarre but it's a little light relief when I'm feeling really pissed off (in this case stbxtwatface has just cancelled latest mediation appointment Angry)

It's difficult to remain sane and positive when going through this sort of shit situation - can I have some of your happy pills ConfusedNC ? Smile

TodaysAGoodDay · 11/02/2015 10:30

Another supporter de-lurking.

We think you're fab WWK, just keep drinking the gin posting on here!

My XH managed to drag our divorce on for 4 years, and in the end I got exactly what I'd asked for in the first place and which he'd said 'no' to. Chin up, this will soon be over, and that feeling is sooooooo good!

WellWhoKnew · 11/02/2015 15:55

Dear STBXH,

I will cave... I give in... I quit...

To MN's desire for thread No. 3
To my utter frustration.
This thread.

And start up Dear VNXH,

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2306081-Dear-VNXH

Woman. Still fighting.

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