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Dear NSTBXH

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WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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WellWhoKnew · 21/11/2014 01:03

Married to a sibling....of mine!

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FuckitAndStartAgain · 21/11/2014 06:37

Two years after he moved out, eight months after nisi and, four months after my lawyer suggested a settlement he sends me an outline if what he thinks is fair. It is far far worse than I ever anticipated. He knows that we (his old family) won't be able to live on that. He knows after 30 years of marriage that I will always put our children first.

He has played every cliche from the unexpectedly (yeah right!) girlfriend to the Disney dad scenario. He has promised lots and delivers nothing, to our almost grown up children. Apparently they will all be independent adults requiring no support after 18. He realises that this might be tricky and I will not have a big enough (?any) house for them to live and offers to have one if them to live with him and new family. I wonder which child he will choose to be the recipient of this generosity?

This thread and the mantras one have helped through the night. I will go to work despite being tired and a tad hungover!

On a final note, after his tardiness, he wants a speedy resolution as his girlfriend is giving up her job not just taking maternity leave!

You are sharing your backbone when I feel spineless. Thank you for that. Flowers

Hobbitwife001 · 21/11/2014 08:20

My, (I don't want to call him husband but unfortunately still is) has offered to support us until 2017 when youngest son has finished university , what happens then? Do we cease to exist? As my son hasAspergers, the likelyhood of him getting a job and living independently is remote at best. I need stability for him, and wil fight tooth and nail to get it.

whyMe2014 · 21/11/2014 21:32

What is wrong with all these horrible men?

Perhaps we should thank these twats for leaving us and making us the strong women we will be when we plough through their shit!

WellWhoKnew · 21/11/2014 23:23

Dear STBXH,

I am writing to say, that I've been a little 'woo-is-me' of late.

I think there are dark forces at work it has to be said.

But I may be getting a bit paranoid here.

I may be casting aspellsions, nasturgions, grasping at straws to explain my behaviour though.

No doubt you'll tell me I'm being stupid. Or vexatious. Meh.

But I know you're not very 'woo' so you can just put it down to 'shit happens'.

The lovely SHL is on holiday so can't oversee my case.

How very selfish of her.

Shit happens.

The lovely paralegal has written to say that my evidence supplied in questionnaire v.3 is not formatted correctly. Can I correct this as soon as possible?

Never mind, shit happens.

But assures me, if I can get it done within the next week, it can be wired across on the next agreed, and court-ordered, exchange date.

This just happens to be the end of the month, when you (and I) supply the answers to the schedule of deficiencies, which, of course, are the documents generated from our exchanged questionnaires.

Oh, well shit happens.

So, dutifully, I set about doing this when shit happened.

The laptop went poof.

Oh, shit. That ain't a good happening.

Never mind, I have the power of Kindle. I'll order a new laptop. And a few other things at the same time.

So the next bit, I have to say, I can't blame on shit happening. In fact, if I were you, I'd blame on a Mumsnetter.

And if I were you, I'd name and shame her.

But I'm not you, so I won't mention the 'FingerlessNotAWizard' member of our community, who sent me a link to a certain object de woo.

Nor will I blame her for my thinking, 'Well if the gin doesn't do it, at least I have a Plan B'.

Nor will I blame her for putting it in my basket.

Because, that basket-case decision, was all mine.

So when I did my little cash exorcism by way of retail therapy, I really, really, really can't blame anyone but myself for NOT FUCKING CHECKING THE DELIVERY ADDRESS.

Well, that's just fucking Karma isn't it? I order myself a Ex-Husband VooDoo doll, but forget to check the default address, and it wings itself over to you.

Never mind, shit happens.

Only, then of course, Yahoo decides to move servers from country "Fine" to Country "Ohfuckia".

So not only can I not do your fucking questionnaire, but there is one seriously pissed off VooDoo doll being dispatched to you.

And because Yahoo did some woo too,

I couldn't cancel the fucking order.

Oh well, shit happens.

But on the upside, it will give me weeks of endings to emails.

Wife, Go shove your own head up your own arse.

Cos that's where shit happens.

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Reallyme71 · 21/11/2014 23:29

Karma...who'd credit the mysterious ways of woo...wish I could see NSTBXH's face when he opens the little present...

Thumbwitch · 21/11/2014 23:46

Oh shit WWK! Buggery buggery bollox re. the address, but I'm sorry, I do have to laugh just a little bit at the thought of his face when he opens it! IF he opens it - it is, after all, addressed to YOU and not him. So technically he's not supposed to open it - but then he's an arch fuckwit so chances are he will, of course.

Well they say eavesdroppers never hear good of themselves - people who open post not addressed to them probably see similar! Grin

But still. The universe can just stop fucking you around now, and go fuck him over instead, I feel. Redirect. Talking of which, have you got a postal redirect on your mail from that address to yours? MIght help to set one up - it's not that expensive - and it would save you from anything like this happening again (if they're using Royal Mail for the delivery, anyway.)

WellWhoKnew · 21/11/2014 23:57

Thumb - thank you.

Unfortunately, he is the Master of the Universe, so you know them law things...

only apply to us mere mortals.

I'm just waiting for the fall out...

or 'woo'.

It's not like I really need to stock the fires of fury, is it?

Oh well, shit happens.

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WellWhoKnew · 22/11/2014 00:00

stock? stoke!

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MrsC1969HJ · 22/11/2014 00:39

LOL'd. Hard. Use the excuse I emailed. Who give a shit, as indeed, shit happens! :-D

AcrossthePond55 · 22/11/2014 04:20

I admit it gave me a giggle, too. My BFF had a voodoo doll of her ex. We stuck pins in it and ended up burning the damn thing, too.

Is there enough time before delivery to send arsehole him some type of notification that the parcel was misdirected and that it is NOT to be opened with a reminder that it is against the law to open a parcel addressed to another person?

CruCru · 22/11/2014 09:16

Ah never mind WWK, you can say that someone sent it to you as a present.

CruCru · 22/11/2014 09:18

I'm interested in this arrangement that your ex wants you to pay for. I can't imagine what this is.

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 22/11/2014 12:03

I am not laughing - really, hardly at all - honestly (chuckle, guffaw).

On a serious note, should he (illegally) open the parcel, is he likely to have you arrested for witchcraft. Indeed, is witchcraft still illegal? Anyone know?

If he does, if you are able to get a message to me, I will happily stand bail, purely for the amusement provided by the mental vision of the look on his face.

KOKO

Thumbwitch · 22/11/2014 12:25

I'm pretty sure if WWK sent him a message to remind him that opening her post was illegal, he'd definitely do it just because.

I'd love to see him attempt to get you arrested for witchcraft though, WWK - although actually, no I wouldn't because I think that might just tip the balance on his sanity in the eyes of his legal team...

Thumbwitch · 22/11/2014 12:29

www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/transformingsociety/private-lives/religion/overview/witchcraft/
It doesn't appear to be actively illegal any longer, so being arrested for it isn't really an option - phew! Wink

WellWhoKnew · 22/11/2014 13:20

I wonder if he'll apply for a Non-Woo-estation Order?

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Thumbwitch · 22/11/2014 13:25
Grin
MrsC1969HJ · 22/11/2014 13:35

Guffaw.....we definitely are snakes with tits Grin Flowers Wine

AcrossthePond55 · 22/11/2014 15:57

< does the titty-titty snake shake dance>

BS: You remind me of a man.
B: What man?
BS: The man with the power.
B: What power?
BS: The power of voodoo.
B: Voodoo?
BS: You do.
B: Do what?
BS: Remind me of a man.
B: What man?
BS: The man with the power.

(from Bachelor & the Bobby-soxer

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 22/11/2014 16:09

Just a thought. Did the woodoo doll come ready supplied with long pins? If NSTBX were to start twiddling them the results could be interesting - and loud.

EBearhug · 22/11/2014 16:25

They went through piles of old laws a few years back and repealed loads of them which weren't relevant any more.

WellWhoKnew · 22/11/2014 17:04

So does that mean I can still enter a defence of pre-mediated murder?

What about allegations of Actual Body Harm by way of Voo Doo? Where do I stand there?

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IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 22/11/2014 17:17

Since the murder weapon was delivered to him in error, I think the best they could hope for would be pre-mediated battery by way of an illegal parcel opening, or, in extreme circumstances, un pre-mediated suicide by way of an unfortunately placed pin Grin

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