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Dear NSTBXH

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WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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whyMe2014 · 03/11/2014 09:33

Oh WellWhoKnew - you need this parasite removed. He's a sad excuse for a human being. You've been incredible and coped with all the shit he's thrown at you and he's the one complaining WTF?

You'll be well rid soon. Sending you hugs and support for the journey. xx

AcrossthePond55 · 03/11/2014 18:00

So, he's obviously still living in that 'alternate universe' on the other side of the space/time continuum. He can't find his own arse without a road map, eh? Too bad, so sad, he loses!!

It'll be over soon. Then you can stand on your own doorstep and wave him a cheery 'toodle-oo, wanker!'.

WellWhoKnew · 06/11/2014 17:25

Dear NSTBXH,

Do you remember the wedding vows? Y'know when you said:

I, TBXH take you, TBXW to be my wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to God's holy law, in the presence of God I make this vow.

Yeah, you kind of lied.

Correction. You lied.

That's why we is getting divorced, really innit? Whatever your divorce petition says, you still lied.

A lot.

However, whilst weddings have 'vows', divorce courts have 'orders'. This means that the official is not a vicar, but a judge. They aren't there to have intellectual discussions with. They do not discuss. They order.

Now imagine what happens when a court orders her to 'tell the truth and nothing but the truth' by way of full and frank admission of her health and wealth, by way of Form E.

Oh yeah, we've had those shenanigans. Past tense.

Now imagine, what happens when a court dismisses your entire questionnaire and orders your team to re-write it because it was deemed unacceptable.

Or incompetent as SHL would say.

Oh yeah, we've had those shenanigans. Past tense.

Now imagine what happens when a judge orders both of us to complete a narrative statement. That is the story of our lives, both before we met, how we met, when we met, why we did what we did, and why we split and what's happened since then. It's called a narrative statement because it's the story of one's life up to date. Wherever possible, this should be backed up with hard evidence.

It's not difficult really to write about one's life, or find the evidence, but it is a very emotional, nay distressing, thing to do when you have to compose in words the 'for better and for worse' moments of our married lives.

Or as SHL described it: 'cathartic' as she deleted some of my more ranty paragraphs...

Now imagine what she feels to be ordered to think for herself and supply some answers. After all, you left so you're not here to tell me what they should be.

Now, imagine being little old me, with her own set of feelings and beliefs. Her own opinion and her own comprehension of events.

Now imagine being little old me, abandoned, with her own point of view, hopes, wishes and fears.

And imagine, poor little old me, having to actually write about herself, her life, her accomplishments, her heartbreak, her anger, her frustration, her total fucking devastation of the last six months.

Imagine, little witty me, actually getting to tell the real story, the truth of my life, the actual, real, and sometimes horrifying events of 2014.

All without making light of any of it. Not a word of embellishment. Not a word of a lie. And all supported by evidence.

Imagine having to read about that.

Well don't worry, the court ordered exchange of THAT information isn't until next week.

However, I am most amused by the news that you aren't happy with the answers given in my questionnaire.

Sorry about that.

Oh, one more thing. I still ain't giving the court a two-fingered salute as your 'shs' has demanded we do.

SHL has politely pointed out, again, that we have court orders. Your initial questionnaire was rejected by the judge in its entirety. You don't get to demand that I complete the rejected questionnaire . You fucked up already. 'Snot my fault you can't turn back time.

But it's all your fault that you're not here to tell me what to think, do and say.

Wife. Getting over it.

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freshstart4us · 06/11/2014 17:37

Wow - WWK, just delurking to compliment you once again on your magnificent prose. The flies on the wall of the Judge's chamber when s/he is reading your narrative are truly blessed, from a literary perspective.

The facts of the matter are, of course, truly heart-rending.

I am heartened, however, that the legal process seems to be serving you well, in that it is allowing you to tell your story with hope of gaining the support that your dick-witted NSTBXH has rescinded.

Flowers and Wine
Wine and Flowers for you to take you through into next week....xx

CruCru · 06/11/2014 18:37

Ah well done, WWK.

Nevergrowingup · 06/11/2014 19:45

WWK, you will deserve a medal at the end of this, not only for surviving, but sharing your story which will have given many people strength and courage. Its strangely wonderful and awful at the same time. You are nearly there now.

And this, the woman who should have shuffled off quietly to her caravan.

Its a wonder he hasn't clocked the fact that you were always the smartest of the two of you. Bit late for him to realise! Shame Wink

whyMe2014 · 06/11/2014 22:21

WellWhoKnew...one day he'll realise what he's lost and he'll be a sad little man. You will come out with respect and dignity and know he was never a match for you.

It must have been awful to write your story but all the bad bits were down to him. You will write the next chapter in your own witty wonderful way and without a wanker in tow!

xx

DocMcStuffinsBigBookOfOuches · 06/11/2014 22:47

[WhyIsThereNoApplauseEmoticon?]

You are awesome.

skyeskyeskye · 06/11/2014 23:16

WWK, have just caught up with this thread. KOKO, you are doing so well and he is a total arse.

captainmummy · 07/11/2014 07:07

Wwk - your shl must be loving this! It must be quite fun, tying him up in knots, watching the gradual dawning on him that he actually has NO fucking idea what to do, the hunted look he must have now, with all these lesser beings not doing what he wants...

Fun fun fun.

That may be just me, you are probably much nicer than I am. :)

mistlethrush · 07/11/2014 22:16

Been away for half term and no internet... just caught up. Not going well for him is it! Koko!

darkness · 08/11/2014 07:20

Wellwhoknew I have followed both your threads and have been so impressed by your dignity and candour. When this part of your journey is over will you be able to add things like your narrative statement to your public story?
I get the feeling that whilst you are both likable and impressive from the part of you that you choose to show us, we are looking at only a small part of a vast iceburg of a personality....wow that was badly phrased...
I guess I'm trying to say that I would love to know more of your "back story"
You dont feel the need to have "flashs backs" do you ?
(Not if they're going to traumatise you type things though..wow can't form a thought into a paragraph today)

Zebraface · 08/11/2014 13:13

JKRowling eat your heart out....we're right there with you WWK!

You are amazing,simply amazing. He is.......well,words fail me.

That's Friday done though..koko x

WellWhoKnew · 08/11/2014 17:56

It's a good thing words don't fail me.

Fucker, twat, shitbag, arse.

It's like I have sweary tourettes where he is concerned.

(And I've got one of those accents: so it's more like Fuukah, TwaaT, ShiTbaag and Aaarse!)

'Cos y'know one has to pronounce things proper like!

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MrsC1969HJ · 08/11/2014 18:40

WWK...ha ha ha! You are beautifully spoken but "fuukah" sounds so great coming out of your mouth :-)

aylesburyduck · 11/11/2014 23:31

Nothing like a bit of potty mouthing to make one feel better.

I have done a fair bit of swearing this week myself! I find it therapeutic Grin

AcrossthePond55 · 12/11/2014 00:08

I loves swears! Nothing like a good old 'shit, fuck, damn, piss, hell' to make you feel better!

aylesburyduck · 12/11/2014 12:33

wanker bastard fuckwit!!

ahhhhh that feels betterGrin

thenamehaschanged · 12/11/2014 13:25

Fucking right!

Nice one wwk, you really are bloody amazing! Thanks Grin

whyMe2014 · 12/11/2014 16:56

Check out The Dickhead Song by Miles Betterman on You Tube - I think the description fits.

xx

WellWhoKnew · 13/11/2014 00:39

Well, if ever a film were to be made about my life (which it won't - rest assured), we have the opening credits song...

Thanks WhyMe.

Now, who shall play me...?

Blonde, busty, pert bottom, fabulous teeth, sassy, tremendous sense of style and natural beauty, and brains-to-die for being divorced by short, bald odious little man.

Yes, the story line is a little far-fetched.

Except for the odious little man bit.

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whyMe2014 · 13/11/2014 12:36

Short, odious little man - have you seen photos of my stbxh.

I don't know about a film about your life but you could definitely get a career writing books.

xx

AcrossthePond55 · 13/11/2014 13:10

"Featuring Danny DeVito as NSTBXH"?

Except Danny DeVito seems to be a nice guy. But I'm sure he can play an arsehole.

Who shall play WWK?

WellWhoKnew · 13/11/2014 16:15

Dear NSTBXH,

Our divorce remains of comedic proportions, so perhaps Danny Boy would make a good you.

We are now recruiting for an actress to play 'shs' who has supplied SHL with yet another questionnaire for me to complete.

Someone who has a face for children, ad libs rather than complies with the script, but is otherwise, I'm sure, quite a nice person although mildly irritating to know.

Unfortunately there is a power outage on and off today, and due to a storm in my life, a real one, means, I the unreasonable one, cannot reasonably complete questionnaire v. 3, despite the lovely SHL saying there's little point in being unreasonable about this.

In fact I can't even read MN to keep me sane as the battery on my shitty little laptop is just about as sustainable as your financial provision.

Gin anyone?

Wife, irked.

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freshstart4us · 13/11/2014 16:32

WWK, oh rubbish. Any chance you could rent some real estate at a semi-decent bistro for an early dinner accompanied by free power supply?

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