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Dear NSTBXH

991 replies

WellWhoKnew · 03/10/2014 17:01

Dear NSTBXH,

I was safely met at the court and walked up to team WWK's room, led by my solicitor, and followed by yours, who actually is a nice, smiley woman - good with children, I'd expect.

She has selected a barrister, who also has a face suitable for children, which is good, I think, given her specialism is y'know them little beings and what not.

But the bad news, the judge was a fellow barrister, and not a judge, just deputising for one. He specialises in...well you guessed it. Quite a cosy team they made too.

The lovely SHB, who is an attractive enough woman, but definitely would 'frighten the children', is just lovely (to me) was already there to meet me.

"Why I am here?" She asked as we entered the room.

'Cos I is getting divorced, innit?' I said, hopefully.

So off she popped to find a more sensible person.

But sadly came back with the news that the 'shb' doesn't know why she's here either.

Anyway off SHB went to do her thing in the corridor with 'shb', which is mostly just standing around chatting over our respective positions.

Mine was sitting down drinking tea, back to the door. I never got to see yours.

Your 'shb' submitted today was just a waste of time, so we should all just prepare for a Final Hearing. My SHB submitted that if you would like to make a reasonable offer, than something could be salvaged and we could spare ourselves the stress of litigation.

Ever pessimistic, SHL and I decided to attack your fourth Form E and start preparing for a Final Hearing, whilst we had SHB on board (and paid for).

Then 'shb' called out 'SHB', the latter being a very wise woman, may be a secret Mumsnetter. Well, Who knows? But she does know 'No' is a complete sentence.

Would I revise downward the maintenance?

No.

Apparently this was the wrong answer.

Would we treat this as a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness Session?

No.

Don't think you were overly chuffed at that either.

Would I at least discuss the maintenance pending suit being unfair?

No.

Seriously? No. Fuck off.

Would I provide the answers to the questionnaire today?

No.

It transpires you are very pissed off indeed, and feel very badly treated. Do I care?

Nope.

We asked that you would consider paying something towards the costs you have forced on to me.

Apparently, not.

We suggested that we ask the judge to grant a Legal Services Order, and informed them that we had proposed to submit a Wasted Costs Order.

So you agreed to release all the capital tied up in my solicitor's account to help me overcome the on-going problems you have been dumping on me since you left, and also to fund my legal fees.

Hallelujah!

So I can at least pay for today's waste of time.

So six hours sitting in a stuffy room, lots of giggles were had, and just one near cry.

The realisation that by you effectively spending all my Spousal Maintenance each month, and leaving me in a hell of a hole: all you have done, is pushed up my needs and proved it's inadequate, and left me sleepless for days at a time (including last night).

So SHB then went to tackle this.

You have agreed not to apply for the absolute until at the earliest next year. Should either of us feel the need to do otherwise, we go to prison.

It seems we are now in a forced marriage.

And one you must continue paying for until a court decides otherwise.

I bet you're furious.

Secondly, your spending is excessive. Your shifting of the assets and hiding them, has raised lots of questions. You have now signed undertakings to cease this 'master of the universe' behaviour.

Or go to prison.

Well done. You agree to unfreezing mine, and then got your own frozen.

We have agreed to have minimum contact, and only on very specific points. No more nonsense.

I can finally sleep at night knowing I can pay the bills in the short term, and your pestering of me must stop.

So there was lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the barristers (all three of them) whilst I drank tea, worked on your Form E v.4 with SHL.

It's entirely predictable that a Fuckwits Demonstrate Reasonableness is not going to be fruitful, and so finally your 'shb' informed the court that this was one of those 'exceptional cases' that doesn't get to have an FDR. But still we pushed for one, in the hope you would try and co-operate with this divorce you instigated.

But nope.

And so we now head into a Final Hearing instead. For me that's a good result (cheaper), but SHL and SHB not so much - they have to cancel their holidays.

The only winner of today was little old 'me'. The judge couldn't give a fuck, and the legal teams aren't happy at all with the proceedings. As for you?

I don't give a fuck.

We have a very strict timetable. Given we have met the previous timetable exactly as prescribed, and yours haven't - good luck with that. One deviance and the Final Hearing will be delayed. You have to rely on 'shs' now getting her act together.

Not.my.problem.com

Talking of whom, your smiley shs was pretty pissed off by the end of the day though, opening the door and slamming down paperwork. But the most amusing part was your barrister shouting at mine in the corridor.

Amazing how you make so many women miserable and antsy. Isn't it?

SHL and I were in fits of giggles. I only nearly broke down once today, and I can assure you it wasn't about you. It was about the hell of the last five months, the shocking way you left, and the endless misery of having to cope with it, the stunts you have pulled.

But the undertakings are so extensive, I know what I have to do in the five months to survive. I know what you can't do anymore. And I imagine you are furious you are going to have to keep me in my lovely home until at least then.

So I didn't see you today, other than the back of your head, as we were in a proper court room, which I didn't expect. The 'judge' asked you some questions and you spoke, but just like the last hearing, your disembodied voice isn't really that bothersome.

And so neither are my feelings about you these days.

And hilariously, the song on the radio as I came home:

I came in, checked my emails, and have received an email from the police regarding the other idiot who has caused me some grief this year, and who has been dealt with by the courts this week as well. It says,

Victim Support are able to offer you emotional and practical support, they can be contacted on 0845 6121 900

Thought you might make better use of it. I'm doing okay all things considered.

Wife, still getting divorced.

(Sorry good people of MN...I may be ranting on here for quite some time).

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AcrossthePond55 · 22/10/2014 18:02

Honey has a point. I remember my BFF telling me about her ex; 'he will part of my life until one of us dies, because we have a child'.

But eventually you learn to float above the twattishness and see them through a clear glass of superiority. She said he became very amusing after the divorce and things became more settled.

Zebraface · 22/10/2014 19:43

You've dug deep again WWK...& you are so strong!

The arrogance of your Twunt is astounding.Shock

Start feeling good about yourself..the weight loss (mine came back..& more!). New haircut,same you ...it just got buried under compromise. Soon you can be you again...ENJOY!

Flowers. Woohoo!

ChasedByBees · 22/10/2014 21:58

Just found this thread again. I'm sorry he's such a twat too. :(

WellWhoKnew · 22/10/2014 22:48

Across I remember telling STBXH "we have to get on with her (wife no.1) because she's going to be a part of our lives until one of us dies, because you and she have a child"

And I forced him to treat her with respect.

[Was not the OW by the way]

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mineofuselessinformation · 22/10/2014 23:21

Maybe this isn't well put (you write much better than me), but, it's game-playing.

You will come out of the 'other end'.

He will still carry on being the person he is.

The difference between you two will be that you can look at it dispassionately and recognise that how he behaves is nothing to do with you.
And, feel NOTHING about it, because it doesn't touch your life anymore.
What a pp said about it not being 'his' divorce anymore (sorry, on phone so can't find name) is absolutely true.
He's set a ball rolling now, but has found out he doesn't like where it's going to end up.
KOKO.

AcrossthePond55 · 23/10/2014 17:40

That's because you are a good person!!

When my first marriage ended I was so ecstatic because I knew I would never EVER have to see his ugly, abusive face again in my life. And from that day I haven't, and it's been 35 years. Part of the breakup (as far as giving me more courage to leave) was the fact that he dropped the bomb on me that he never wanted children. Gee, he never thought to mention that before we got married or when I talked about having a baby during our marriage!! As much as I'd wanted a child, I thank God on bended knee that I never went behind his back and got pregnant! I thought about it of course, but what stopped me was the fear of him.

BFF is tied to her ex in that way. Their son is grown and married, but she still has to be polite to her ex because their son won't take sides (she hasn't asked or expected it of him) and both are invited to any family parties her son has. She says it's easier now they are getting older. He used to take continual 'digs' at her but I guess now he's finally getting tired of doing it.

I hope your contact with STBXH will be minimum to none when this nightmare is over!!

aylesburyduck · 27/10/2014 07:32

How was your weekend WWK?

WellWhoKnew · 29/10/2014 00:45

Dear NSTBXH,

You drive me round the bend.

And in circles.

And occasionally, I hit reverse.

Some days I go full speed backwards.

Unfortunately, sometimes I go full speed forwards.

But mostly I KOKO.

Thank you for dumping upon me a car that was "Totes Amazeballs" after I got my SM, which made no provision for making that asset liquidable. In fact, I was firmly of the opinion it was your asset until you pulled THAT stunt.

Then, of course, you claimed half of it on your form E. I failed to even mention that brick of shit, because quite frankly I relied on you to fairly and frankly disclose.

Then you cancelled the insurance and road tax. And filled in yet more paperwork.

I kept in touch with the insurance company every two weeks just because I knew you just could pull that one. Driven by your insatiable desire to hit me where it hurt: the wallet.

And so you did. But, thankfully, you have some decency: you wrote to SHL, costing me £25, to inform me of that you had pulled yet another malicious stunt.

So little old me has had to get it back on the road, and taxed and insured. All with no provision.

Little Miss Perfect here has completed her Speed Awareness Course and so considers herself even more legally minded of yonderyear.

See - I can play the blame game too!

So I thought I'd better do some due diligence on its performance.

You were always quite firm in your belief that "I'm shit at roundabouts".

Well, I've just driven through Swindon.

For my advanced driving course, I shall possibly visit Milton Keynes.

Or maybe not.

Anyway, I learning that your driving me insane is not necessary the worst thing in the world.

I find that these days I'm one of those people that can be occasionally patronising towards the woman who lives in Planet SatNav. I think this is just because, occasionally, I find myself hilarious!

When she screeches 'turn around: take the next available exit'.

I say 'Yes, love, but please in the meantime fuck off because I'm a woman on a mission'.

Only one of us is on the road to Perdition.

As I'm on the road to Damascus, it sure ain't me.

Whereas you refuse to have SatNav. Largely because you always know better. Apparently, you claim, it's an intuitive thing. And when you get lost (oh, I so wish you would), it's always someone else's fault.

It used to be mine.

Whereas for me, getting lost, finding myself, going round in circles, all means I end up in Damascus.

But there's a helluva journey to be had on the way.

Today, I just learnt to park some issues.

Wife. Driving on any way she can, with whatever she's got, to get wherever she wants to be.

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Anniegetyourgun · 29/10/2014 08:10

So uh - he's gone and bought a car, belonging to him so you can't sell it, but with you as the registered keeper so you have to tax and insure it, then declared it an asset of the marriage (and no doubt will say you are lying on your Form E because you didn't mention it)... well I hope it's a really nice car and you're enjoying driving it around. Otherwise, have you tried asking him (via the usual channels) to give you his kind permission to sell the bloody thing? Keeping the correspondence, of course. One does not want the court to have any reason to assume you are as bad as each other with the dodgy declarations.

How is it even possible to declare someone the registered keeper of a vehicle without their prior knowledge? Confused

WellWhoKnew · 29/10/2014 10:11

That's about the sum of it Annie, and it isn't on my Form E, it's a shit car, and I've just paid out hugely to get it back on the road.

Equal split in divorce:

NSTBXH gets all the revenue raising assets.

NSTBXW gets all the revenue depleting assets.

Apparently that's the fact.

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Bobtailstrikesagain · 29/10/2014 12:45

Oh my word WWK - he's a piece of work isn't he? How you keep your sense of humour I will never know!

wishing you a speed bumpfree journey keeping on..

whyMe2014 · 29/10/2014 13:38

OMG WellWhoKnew - does he know my stbxh ! What is this thing about getting abusive with cars?

AcrossthePond55 · 29/10/2014 15:06

Damn! If a research scientist put in 1/2 the effort into his/her work as your NSTBX does in thinking up ways to mess you around, that scientist would be able to cure cancer, AIDS, and Ebola in a week!

Zebraface · 29/10/2014 18:59

OMG what an arse (trying to be polite)

This is divorcé... Why oh why does it have to get so bloody nasty.

I feel for you WWK. My xh cashed in 6k & put it in bonds in mothers name....there's divorce,there's ow & then there's fraud in my book....will never forgive/forget that.

You will be SO well rid (eventually)

WellWhoKnew · 31/10/2014 21:44

Hello dear NSTBXH,

It's Fridaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay the 13th in the Parallel Universe - a place where ordinary things invert....

But back on planet Earth, it's the 31st.

I thought I'd give you update on what life is like in my world.

And also remind you that dates, facts and words are important on planet Earth.

So, tomorrow, I shall remind you that your SM is due, by court order, and it is no longer acceptable to make it late.

Just.so.you.know.

Because now, of course, you may have worked out the mistake in the court order. Did you spot it?

But we got your undertakings not to apply for Decree Absolute it doesn't matter now at all.

Isn't that uncanny?

Apparently it pays to be blonde and dumb. Well, who knew?

Because, you know, life also happens and has to be dealt with.

I have reclaimed Fridays. I have designated Fridays as 'divorce day'. That's the day, I honour the second court-order, and force myself to contact you with any relevant news. So, I have imparted some [bad] news yet again, and yet again, I have made a suggestion.

No doubt, you give me yet another 'decree', which you make up as you go along.

That be the Parallel Universe in action.

It is, somewhat uncannily, also the day of the week that our timetabled events take place.

So from now on that be the day Planet Earth comes into conflict with the Parallel Universe. Planet Earth is ruled by 'laws'. The Parallel Universe by 'decrees'.

Inter-galactic war breaks out...?

Today is the day when 'shs' was given the answers to your "questionnaire extraordinaire".

So presumably some time next year, she'll find a postage stamp and forward SHL's patiently written answers to your two daft questions.

If you feel like joining the muppets, please apply to the [email protected]

Of course, the date when you can exchange your 'schedule of deficiencies' with ours is in two weeks' time.

On a Friday, naturally.

Unless, of course, the rules change again. Or between you and 'shs', you decide the rules don't apply...

I live in hope.

But I thought I should acknowledge that it's six months less one day since you fucked off.

'Cos, you know, dates are important.

I am also two months, and two weeks away from freeeeeeeeeeeeeedom.

Wife. Haunting and taunting.

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Karenthetoadslayer · 31/10/2014 22:46

Happy Halloween, WWK Halloween Smile

Dear NSTBXH
WellWhoKnew · 31/10/2014 22:51

Happy Halloween, Karen.

If it's possible to look better than NK - I shall be WNK!

God rest their souls.

In the interim...may they live in litigation hell.

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EBearhug · 31/10/2014 23:57

Parallel universes do exist, and interact, apparently - read it today. It's in the Daily Mail so it must be true.

WellWhoKnew · 03/11/2014 01:37

Dear NSTBXH,

If you haven't realised: we are getting divorced.

You instigated this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it, that means both you and I need to cope as our independent selves.

So please just fuck off with the 'woe is me' and 'I can't cope' shite.

Y'know when you fucked off without notice, six months ago, I did everything and anything I had to do to get through.

You left me with thousands of pounds of debt, despite the fact you have an income.

A substantial income.

And since you left, from your bank accounts, I can see you could easily have settled this divorce.

But you chose not to.

But here we are six months later. So please, can you just grow up, and deal with shit.

Shit happens.

I've had six months of it.

We're two and a half months away from shit no longer happening.

Please learn to cope.

Because I'm dog tired of your ineptitude.

You chose this.

I didn't re-group by having a holiday in the Philippines or another in Italy.

I just KOKOed.

So if you're The MAN, then please MAN UP.

Because y'know, we're heading into a final hearing. Please get some self-awareness.

Or we will spell it out for you.

Wake up and smell the roses.

Wife. With a mammoth team around her. She buys them flowers.

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Karenthetoadslayer · 03/11/2014 06:10

Are you ok?

bubblebabeuk · 03/11/2014 06:29

Glad your KOKO was wondering about you just this morning xxx
Not long now and you will be free of the twat x

CruCru · 03/11/2014 07:33

Dude, you're doing marvellously. Your ex sounds mental.

Whereisegg · 03/11/2014 07:40

Koko Thanks

captainmummy · 03/11/2014 07:57

He does sound mental. He instigates the divorce, then can't cope with the divorce? So has 2 holidays to get over it, complains about money even though he has plenty, and thinks he is hard done by?

He the Man, right. Soft, floppy, aesthetically unpleasing... Grin he needs to WOMAN up, really.

You know you'll be ok in 2.5 months time. (Happy Christmas/New Year!) and he will NOT.

Shame.

yougotafriend · 03/11/2014 08:25

At what point will the penny drop do you think? He appears deluded on an epic scale if he imagines you will succumb to the "woe is me" card, he clearly has no idea of how much you have grown without him.

He was a weed choking you and preventing you blossoming..... We can all see your amazing colours now.

KEEP Thanks

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