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Support for those in emotionally abusive relationships 2

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bigbuttons · 28/06/2011 06:45

try againHmm

OP posts:
BreakFree · 08/07/2011 00:09

Big hugs Hissy. Wine

I'm just about to head off to bed. Stbx, *I wish that were true has just asked if I wanted some loving to which I replied no and he responded "why do I always have to be the one that asks. I shouldn't have to ask." So I said so you think you're entitled? Last night I did. I felt so detatched and uncomfortable. I hate this. Don't know what I want anymore. I too feel like a total fraud because I don't know what way my head is anymore Sad

HerHissyness · 08/07/2011 00:34

argh! aren't they utterly bonkers?

Hugs girly, you will get there!

na-night! Grin

bigbuttons · 08/07/2011 09:23

breakfree Please don't feel you have to have sex with him just because he wants itSad
hissy don't be hard on yourself, each time you interact with him you learn a bit more.

OP posts:
barbiegrows · 08/07/2011 10:15

hi notsorted
I'm worrying for you. If there is a child protection issue you definitely should have help and support from social services. He is trying to protect himself from any of these allegations of abuse against you. All I can say is, when you don't find support from services, write a letter to one service and cc it to several others.

BibiBlocksberg · 08/07/2011 11:32

"has just asked if I wanted some loving" Shock

OMG!! That was one of the standard ways of phrasing that question in my last relationship.

Do these types of men all read from a shared script or something?

Used to make me feel queasy everytime I heard these stupid ways of asking for sex.

'Do you fancy some loving', Do you want to 'snuggle' (borrowed from the Simpsons) 'I've got a stiffy (while lifting duvet and pointing to said stiffy) - that one was always supposed to get me instantly in the mood and he'd sulk if it didn't.

'I nearly stuck it in and gave you one but you turned over' (well, how inconsiderate of me)

Once he even told me he'd read an article that said women who'd lost interest in sex more than likely wanted to be forced into it - did I feel like that?

FFS!!!!

Just wanted to say - it is sooooo much nicer now without that menacing Benny Hill style constant chase going on in and out of the bedroom, the whining, the sulking, the unwanted groping, the trying to just 'stick it in' everytime I turned my butt towards him in bed.

WhoDidIMarry · 08/07/2011 11:40

Aaarrrgghh I am having a wobble! H has managed to keep up the "good cop" act for almost a week without slipping up and I am feeling really guilty Angry I know I shouldn't be so I just wanted to list everything he's done/does to remind myself why I'm leaving him...

Bad mood swings.
Incredibly short (almost non-existent) fuse.
Intolerant.
Angry.
Cynical.
"Affectionately" insults my body (things I can't change & now have ishoos with).
Seems happy for me to go out without kids for a couple of hours but frequently "punishes" me on my return if they have tried his nano-patience.
Can make the silent treatment last days.
Has isolated me from family in social situations.
Accuses me of disrespect yet shouts at me in front of his mum over trivial things.
Leaves me guessing what I've done wrong to deserve punishment then says "well if you can't work it out we may as well just get divorced now".
Is grumpy, rude, off with my friends & family - charming & witty at other times.
I constantly excuse or justify his behaviour usually out of sheer embarrassment.
Has angrily sworn or shouted at me in earshot of neighbours - they were actually on our shared driveway once & witnessed everything.
Apologises, promises not to do it again (see above).
Does it again (see below).
Shouted that I am a Fing a**le while I am stood in the garden.
Threatened to slam my head in door if I slammed it again.
Has "joked" on several occasions that "they will never find the body" if I try to leave him, once in front of my parents.
Talks down to me - apparently I don't even notice anymore according to DM and BFF.
Has sucked the life out of me - I'm on AD's.
Is NEVER wrong.
Confuses his oldest DD (my SD) who has ADHD with poor instructions or loses his temper with her and calls her stupid.
Never seems genuinely happy for anyone.
Nobody works harder than him.
Is selfish - I sprained my ankle recently whilst out with DC, rang him in AGONY at work to come get us/take me to hospital, complained it wasn't convenient because HE had a deadline to meet, I had to ring DM at work instead who came to get us, when H finally turned up he complained to DM what a shit day HE'D had...

There are, I'm sure, many, many more but that will do for now. What a charmer...

WhoDidIMarry · 08/07/2011 11:49

Oh and Bibi, many of the ridiculous bedroom shennanigans you describe too which quite frankly I'm too embarrassed to list!

Zanywany · 08/07/2011 12:04

Goodness I can't believe how big the thread is, I joined at the beginning of the first one a month or so ago - lots of catching up to do I think

notsorted · 08/07/2011 12:07

Loved the list of stuff to do, but how to you manage it when there are DCs involved? That's the problem. If it weren't for them then it would be just another 'put it down to experience' relationship.
Good thing today is going to see counsellor for initial meeting. I need to work out what social services ishoos are really there.
Dear Barbie Grows I can't trust him, but his abuse has only happened in front of DS, only once involved DS and I have stupidly fended off social services saying I can manage situation. I thought it would be better having him and his isshoos inside the tent and pissing out, now he is outside tent and pissing in so feeling absolutely uncertain where the stable ground lies. I will get asked to mediation again, apparently. I need time, space, etc to be strong woman to do right thing - whatever that is???

notsorted · 08/07/2011 12:24

Bibi, think we all have shaming tales to tell about bedroom antics. Once after row and I'd left but foolishly had to return five minutes later to collect bag he opened the door and unzipped ... god I wish I hadn't had to come back. It all comes down to them thinking you are equally weird and can't just have a normal loving relationship with sex when you both feel like it. Oh and the wanking beside me bed and telling me who he was fantasizing about ... FFS

BibiBlocksberg · 08/07/2011 12:47

I know I keep saying it but O M G - @ all of what you incredible women on here are still being put through!!

I'd like to hire a minibus for the day and some muscle men and locksmiths and come and visit you all in turn.

The 'heavies' will remove your individual twat and stick him in the mini bus to be driven far far far away.

The locksmith will change all the locks for free so by the time the twats find their way back they won't be able to get in to bother you anymore!!!

Twat-B-Gone at your service........

What gets me is the way I used to think it was all so normal and just him being 'a man' Hmm

It's only through reading other's stories I've realised it so wasn't normal and I didn't have to put up with it.

Don't be embarrassed, it's not our shame to own - it's them!!!

I once walked out in the middle of a BJ (have to be careful with calling a spade a spade atm as typing this at work) because yet again he just lay there like an effing statue, didn't touch me, no noises to indicate he was enjoying himself.

Just got so pissed off I stormed out of the house and went for a brisk walk as otherwise I'd have probably bit the thing.

Still embarrassed about that, god knows why, probably because he was still lying there as I left him when I got back 20 mins later, refusing to talk, or do or say anything really.

Bizarre!!

WhoDidIMarry · 08/07/2011 12:55

:o at Twat-B-Gone

cathkidstonbag · 08/07/2011 13:05

Lightbulb moment this morning that I'm trying to come to terms with ... my eldest DC has no respect for me because DH doesn't. So she just thinks it's ok to talk to me like I'm a bit of crap.
It's never going to change, it will only get worse as they get older.
Why can't I have a nice easy fun life??? :(

Mouseface · 08/07/2011 13:07

Morning ladies.

Hissy - SLAP! Now ignore him! Stop feeding the beast please and here, have a massive {{{{{HUG}}}}} Smile.

Breakfree - Oh how harrible for you. If you don't want a physical relationship, then don't have one. Does he know that he's your STBX?

If so, is he trying to have one last try? One last shag? Or trying to stay physical with you thinking that might make you stay? Sad

notsorted - I agree with Barbie, you need to make lots of noise about this and get as many agencies on board to help as possible.

Whilst I had a great day yesterday, today I have woken up to find a doppelganger of my abusive X in the form of DH. He's in a foul mood and taking it out on me.... not like him at all but I think because my new meds (which have just been increased) make me dippy and a bit emotional, and actually rather thick! Plus he's got so much on, I actually wonder is he's a bit depressed because of, well, me?

Anyway, one of my most favourite people in the world is coming to stay this weekend and we're off to a food festival too. I need some different compnay I think. It all gets a bit wobbly at times. I do love him so very much, beyond loving him..... I guess that's why I look for problems, burst bubbles Sad

Sorry, nothing like what you guys are going through, I'm just having a moan. Blush

garlicnutter · 08/07/2011 13:36

Bibi -
he was still lying there as I left him when I got back 20 mins later
WTF??!!!
Shock Hmm Grin

notsorted · 08/07/2011 13:38

Bibi, guess that could be considered a moment of empowerment? Him confused, you decisive. Look back and laugh

BibiBlocksberg · 08/07/2011 14:03

Thank you garlic and notsorted - I AM laughing about it right now.

Something about the way you wrote that garlic and the faces :)

I know, idiot, he obviously thought I'd be going straight back to the 'task' when I got back.

What goes on in their heads eh? I mean, what was he thinking when he was lying there - oh, Bibi's just gone off to the shop for some milk/bread/cigarettes - back in a jiffy'? Like that's perfectly normal?

As they say on SATC - they don't call it a job for nothing!

Oh, just remembered actually - he talked to the Cat about it afterwards Shock

You know that way some people talk through animals and children? 'Don't look at me puss, I don't know what's going on either. Bibi's gone mad' etc etc

I WANT THE LAST 10 YEARS OF MY LIFE BACK!!! I really do!

Let me be a lesson to you all and get out asap :)

Mouseface · 08/07/2011 15:40
Sad

Sorry this is off topic but Nemo is losing all of his feeds since they changed the routine. DH is fuming and going mad at it all. I hate it things are like this.

Is it Wine o'clock yet? Grin

ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 08/07/2011 15:51

poor Nemo. (()) for him and Wine for you.

BibiBlocksberg · 08/07/2011 15:52

"Is it o'clock yet?"

Not long, have a Brew & Biscuit first :)

It's crap when things have to happen and there's someone there to make it ten times worse by going on and on and on about how negative it all is etc.

Can you get out for a walk or anything at all just to get a break from his going mad?

Mouseface · 08/07/2011 16:28

My friends' coming to stay so I'm cleaning to keep busy and will take Nemo with me to pick her up from the station.

Sorry, just feeling sorry for myself, I guess we though the new routine would be the magic wand we needed.

Meh.

Right, big girl pants are pulled up and I'm off to have a great weekend with my friend and grumpy DH Grin xx

HerHissyness · 08/07/2011 16:41

Oh mousey! i am so sorry to hear you are having a hard time, and Nemo too! Sad praying for you all that it'll sort itself out soon.

have a great weekend anyway.

MadameOvary · 08/07/2011 18:11

Thinking of you Mouse
WDIM - You know it wont last. Your list was hideous and I found myself nodding along with it and getting very Angry for you. Do not feel guilty!

barbie I LOVE the way you put that - "Love is just a theory in our relationship" tho i am Sad that you had to write it!

snaildoodle · 08/07/2011 21:33

I haven't been around for a while; really sorry. Posted a bit on the first of these thread,then tried to convince myself that things weren't as bad as I thought, and if I could just pull myself together and not dwell on things all would be ok.

I've just had a horrible day, can't think straight, I've tried to read through this thread but I just can't focus and so I'm really really sorry if this comes out as one big selfish rant but I just need to get it all down and out of my head.
I have been away at a work conference for 4 days. Phoned home on Sunday evening to say I'd arrived safely ready for conference to begin the next morning. No answer. A couple of hours later, finally get through and speak to DC1, who sounds upset and says dad has been stressed and angry and bossy. DC2 won't say anything by time it's his turn as H has come back into the room. He does however tell me that a) H (who is a church pastor)had a meeting with Ex OW ( they had an EA with some kissing and touching not a full on PA, he swears) after church that morning, and they (DC1 &2) had been very bored waiting for it to end. and B) H had just had a load of his new 'friends' round for a BBQ and drinks that evening: people H is working on a project with but who he keeps me at arms length from; this is the third time they have had a 'social event' and every time I've been away.

Came home Wednesday night, H busy and distant, acting like he is going through the motions of being pleased to see me. i suggested going out tonight and he ummed and ahh'd and tried to think of an excuse not to; he has actually found a work related excuse and gone out by himself. Today I raised my concerns about how he hadn't told me he was meeting with ex OW, he got very cross and said, she and another volunteer asked for the meeting it wasn't his fault they had to meet; I said he could have phoned me first, as he is supposed to any time he has to meet with her, and he didn'treply. I then said I was uncomfortable and felt excluded from the social gatherings he was arranging while he was away. He said it was just the same as me going out with my friends.

I then asked about a new job he'd been applying for which would start next year, and he said he'd decided not to apply. I was annoyed since the deal with him staying where he is and therefore in work related contact with Ex OW was because he promised it was only for another couple of years til a piece of work he was doing was finished, now he'd backingout of that.

He told me I was in the wrong, that I needed to stop 'obsessing about just one issue' and basically acted aloof, argoant and distainful even when i was shaking and crying.

sorry, I've written too much and it probably doesn't even make sense. The kids are fine but say dad was grumpy and they don't want me to go away again. I ight have to resign from my job because it's a necessary part of my job to occasionally go away. Or leave. I should just leave. Why can't I be braver and just flippin go, or is he actually right and I'm an obsessive, weak woman who just can't get over things and move on?

snaildoodle · 08/07/2011 21:34

sorry..social gatherings he was arranging while I was away!

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