The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Carry On Past The Vineyard.

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Welcome to the Bus!

I'm Mouse and you'll find me snuggled sat at the back where it's warmest!

If you're sober, drinking, or somewhere between the two, you are more than welcome on board.

No judging, no cliquey groups and no closed minds here, oh no! Chances are, no matter how bad you may be feeling right now, one of the Brave Babes will have been there too!

So, come say hi.

And, to read the last thread and other journeys so far, follow this link

ooo!! this just made me jump!!

hows yer gnashers mouse?

Sore and horrid. I'm off again now. Be back when better xxxx

see you soon!!! , night night!!

Are there really thread police?

If anyone has time, would you have a look at this piece about something called, 'The Sinclair Method'. It is quite laboriously written. But the comments are interesting. Has anyone had it suggested by their GP? I note that some of the posters are from the UK, so it must be available here.

I was very very cynical when I started reading, because it gave the impression that one would be on drugs for the rest of one's life. But the comments tell a different story. I wonder if this is a treatment sanctioned by NICE, or whether it would have to be paid for privately. Does anyone know of anyone who has tried it?

www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=11132

Night all. Why don't you just have them out, Mouse? I am having tooth trouble this week and dreading dreading the D. (If you have them out you will have to call yourself chipmunkface for a week.

are we allowed in here yet?

oh i hate doing as i am told!!!

sticks tongue out at thread police!!!, 'come an av a go if you fink yer ard enough'!!!

btw, i have found that being sober in no way brings on maturity!!!

Ha here I come boldly dancing all over the new thread and generally making a mess!!!x

Good Morning all,

Hope all of you who were feeling like sh**t first thing this morning feel a bit better now.

Mouse first sign of the thread police, and shout, the babes will sort them out, no worries :)

Well, you may have seen that I didn't drink at my "do" on Friday, despite trying to persuade myself that "a couple" would be ok. The voice of reason (DH) reminded me, that after that first couple, I don't have a voice of reason anymore!!

I was so grumpy about not having a drink last night for a while, and so happy on Friday that I hadn't drunk, that I got my days mixed up. And so, I woke up this morning, and it's day 11 !!!!

I really, really wanted a glass of wine at 6 last night tho, so I'm no different than I was really

Thurso congrats on Day 11:) Of course you are different, you didn't drink the wine at 6 last night, would you have done that 2 weeks ago?

thurso!!, you are doing sooooo fucking well!!!, dont think you havent changed, YOU HAVE!!!!, you are taking back control of your life!!, 11 days are massive!! - i can remember thinking at about day 5, 'how the hell do i do this?' - now, i keep thinking 'blimey!!, over 5 months!!, how have done this?' - the answer is A DAY AT A TIME!!!

see you in a bit babes - im hoping to persuade dh into going to a craft fair with me! , might be a faint hope actually!!

Thanks desire and JWN

What kept me going yesterday at abot 5.30, 6 ish was re-reading everyones early posts (not mine obviously , especially yours JWN.

And also even after this short amount of time, although I don't feel especially "High" this morning, (perhaps you can help me with that diabolik ) I do wonder how I ever managed to feel down and grumpy AND have a hangover. It all seems to much to manage at once !!

I think because I have spoke so honestly to DH, and to all of you, when the urge comes, I physically don't think I could lift a glass of wine and drink it, beacause of the consequences. Didn't care before, so I suppose that's a step forward.

Also people have said on here that the first weeks, are quite the roller coaster, so I think I have just got into a bit of a dip. Funny how it all changed so quickly in half an hour on Saturday night.

Anyway, off to get the slow cooking casserole ready.

Lots of love and happy fairy dust to all :)

Actually physically I'm sure I could lift 20 glasses of wine, I probably meant mentally, although I'm still going one day at a time.
MILFLAW no red wine in the casserole :)

Was so proud of myself last night for not buying a bottle of red, headed off to bed early enough, only to be woken by 4 young ladies (3 mine, 1 friend) coming home from niteclub and all talking at the same time about their night out, ended up sitting at computer for an hour or so till they all dropped off one by one. Sore heads all round this morning

Got it wrong on last thread, it takes 1001 messages to fill it, Mouse wins

Afternoon!

Am creeping onto bus with head slightly down as had two glasses of white wine last night. Felt in control but wary of pushing my luck.

Casserole slow cooking here too, Hoping to work this pm and have friend over to see new house. My guess is DH will get his x box time and errands time and I'll get ten minutes to work. Bah.

Afternoon MsGee, today is a new day, at least you stopped at the two glasses. What is with today, everyone seems to be cooking casseroles? Is it a tradition I know nothing about

Morning.

I have decided to bin the ABs. Taken one this morning, and almost fell flat on my face. And I have 5 more left. Side effects are as follows - vertigo, vomiting, upset stomach, headaches, blurred vision, dizziness, drowsiness and confusion.

Bit like being very pissed then!!

Silver was looking after me (bless her) via text last night and MADE me call NHS Direct who basically said that the side effects are worse than the pain of the infection.

No shit Sherlock! Plus they last up to 72 hours after you have finished taking them. Great!

So, I'll sort it tomorrow and get back to the dentist.

But I have caught up, and escaped the thread police (who don't really exist) phew!

Just wanted to show my swollen face and say I'll be back later. I'm off to light the log burner, get the casserole in the oven and tackle the laundry mountain.

Why is it that when 'mum' is ill, the house comes to a stand still?

Pha!!!

(a special snuggle to Red too for making sure I was ok )

Not another one making a casserole?? Homework for this week, give Desire receipes for casseroles so that this time next week I too can join the ranks of casserole maker

Not another one making a casserole?? Homework for this week, give Desire receipes for casseroles so that this time next week I too can join the ranks of casserole maker

Definitely bin the ABs Mouse and get dentist to yank (ie gently remove) out offending tooth
Here's hoping this message only posts once

desire - I have to be referred as said bastard norty tooth is partically under a perfectly healthy one, so, it's a general to remove it and a day in hospital.

Deep joy!

Fortheverylast, yes I've heard of the Sinclair Method but I believe that you need to use a med called Naltrexone which isn't licensed in the UK for treating alcoholism, only opiate addiction. It is however licensed in the US and some people have found it's worked. There's something else called Baclofen but don't know how much it's used in the UK.

I've just started taking Acamprosate (Campral) which is licensed here and is designed to reduce cravings. My GP speaks highly of it. You take 2 tabs 3 times a day and aren't supposed to drink at all on it. Very few side effects apparently. I'm on SSRIs also. It's recommended that you stay on it for a year. I took my first pill on Thursday night and have had very little desire to drink. I am very ready to stop drinking though so no doubt there's a placebo effect going on. However, if the cravings stay reduced I'll be very happy with these pills. I'm aware that my whole life needs to change in order to stop so I intend the pills to be only a part of my armoury.

I'm finding this morning's posts quite inspirational and will echo Miss P's words
to Wichety "When I finally accepted that stopping completely was the only way, and that I am indeed an Alcoholic, the relief was so great, it flooded over me like a wave, then I cried like a baby, then I stopped" I only hope I'll stay stopped too and be able to say that my life is immeasurably happier, calmer and more fulfilling.

Forthe I had a look at the article you posted. Sorry to be cynical, but it seems to me that it is crazy to ask someone who wants to have a drink to take an opiate first in order to produce a feel good factor, when that is what they expect to get from the dink in the firt place. The success of the treatment also seems to depend on the alcoholic continuing to drink! Or have I completely misunderstood?
How about suggesting that they take a soft drink instead of an alcoholic drionk coupled with positive reinforcement of the type we all offer each other. I would prefer my endorphins to be produced naturally through renewed vigour, pride in myself and the fellowship of my Brave Babes.
See what happens when you get sober - you spend sunday afternoons writing essays!

Sorry meant to say I'm not criticising anyone who needs meds to help and I'm sure that the anti- craving meds are useful, just don't understand a treatment that incudes continuing to drink.
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