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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Carry On Past The Park Bench!

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HammerMouseOfHorrors · 18/10/2010 10:54

Hello Smile

I'm Mouse and one of the Brave Babes on the Battle Bus.

The bus is never full and you'll find a real mix of people on board, all with the same goal.

To take control of their drinking. Whether that's to stop completely or cut right down.

Everyone is welcome to get on the bus at any point. You will receive a warm welcome and plenty of support.

Some come meet the others.........

The journey so far.

JWN's original thread

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TheAntiChristi · 26/10/2010 18:25

am reading When Will There Be Good News. Very good.

Dipso you know for next time that the intense craving passes whether you drink... Or not... And if you don't drink, the feeling just passes, no harm done.

venusinthehauntedhouse · 26/10/2010 18:42

Dipso having a choice did not end when you had that first glass. You still have a choice, in fact you have many choices. Every single time you pour another glass you are making another choice, the eine is not getting into your muth by magic, you are choosing to put it there every time. I know that you know this, but you are not powerless. You may be porweless to control your craving for alcohol, but you are not powerless over your physical actions right at this moment. Chuck the whole glass into the sink and break it - you COULD do that if you chose to. Pour the rest of the bottle away - too difficult? Put the lid on it - too difficult and only temporary?

This is what I have done on occassions where like you I have started to drink (and just like you I couldn't / didn't want to pour the rest of the bottle away). I finish the glass then pour another one. Before I have any of it, I go any brush my teeth - the stronger the toothpaste the better. Brush your teeth for at least 2 minutes making sure that you get lots of foamy toothpaste in your mouth. Spit out but don;t rinse.

Then go back to your glass of wine and take a glug. Notice how horrid it tastes and whether your face screws up. That is probably how you looked the very first time you tasted wine, before your palate got used to it. Struggle through that glass, wash the nasty taste of toothpaste away.

Then pour the next glass and do it all over again. It never actually stopped me drinking, but it certainly made me drink less and drink less happily.

Dipso there is some small part of you that wants to do something about it. It is not yet 7pm. Stop now, drink lots of tea and be sober by the time you go to bed. You will love yourself in the morning.

Dipso · 26/10/2010 19:10

Venus, thanks. The bottle is almost gone, I debate as to whether I should get another one, what would be the point. And I love brushing my teeth, I'm a dentist's daughter, so it shouldn't be hard.

I hope everyone else is having a nice evening and I want to have a nice sober eveing too, I want it to be the norm. Instead of this high as a kiteness one minute, then guilt and regret the next.

venusinthehauntedhouse · 26/10/2010 20:15

Dipso I see that it is almost an hour since you posted, so my advice may be way to late - but if you were looking for it, I'd suggest NOT getting another bottle. It's not going to make you feel any better.

Bit tongue in cheek - you know that would be the answer Grin. What about tomorrow. That's another day, you can join me in being sober tomorrow. That's my firm intention.

venusinthehauntedhouse · 26/10/2010 20:15

And you can join me in a cup of tea anytime this evening.

Dipso · 26/10/2010 20:20

Hi Venus, have not started on another bottle, so tomorrow will be less awful. Thanks for the support, hope your evening is going well.

Sober for tomorrow sounds good, it doesn't seem much but for the likes of me it'll be an
achievement.

HammerMouseOfHorrors · 26/10/2010 20:28

Dipso

To get to the 'norm', you have to go through the fucking guilt, shame, self loathing, hating the world, wanting to end it all, crying, not showering for a day or two or more, puking, nearly shitting yourself or actually doing it, sleeping around, putting yourslef and others in danger, driving over the limit, crashing your car, not getting home safely, being rude in public, calling everyone you have ever met names, falling over, maybe getting into trouble with the police......

I could go on if you like. I have a huge list of shame.

Or you can sort yourself out and take control. Damage limitation and all that.

What is it that you want? What are you trying to block out/forget/numb?

Talk to us. x

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Toclearmyhead · 26/10/2010 20:47

Don't know if any of you remember me from a few threads back.

Sorry, I bailed off the bus and have been quietly breaking down (and drinking) but want to try to take some positive steps again.

Is there room for a little one?

HammerMouseOfHorrors · 26/10/2010 21:26

Hello lovely Toclear

I remember you. Sorry you have been struggling sweetheart.

Where do you want to start? [hsmile]

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Dipso · 26/10/2010 21:26

Toclearmyhead welcome, seems you are in a similar boat to moi. Mousey, off to bed now, your list is my list and I don't want to add to it. Actually I will add to it because this is my speciality: stalking ex-boyfriends who I cannot let go of even though they weren't right for me but when I'm pissed I'd do anything to get them back.
I have two on the go at the moment Blush

Maybe that's what I'm trying to block out, being crap at relationships. Who knows. Congrats to all those who'll wake up tomorrow morning guilt and hangover-free. I want it to be me.

dementedma · 26/10/2010 21:32

Toclearmyhead -welcome
Dipso - i am being a coward and letting your voice be mine tonight. Even after the slappings i got earlier, i am drinking again tonight. i had it down to alternate nights pretty much, but have drunk every night since Saturday. Not vast amounts, half a bottle maybe, but a big backslide after earlier improvements. i think i just don't want to give up enough yet.
i understand the damage I'm doing, I like the positives when I'm not drinking but yet I still do it. I just give in to it.It is stronger than me and tonight it wins again.

venusinthehauntedhouse · 26/10/2010 21:34

dipso just keep wanting it to be you waking up sober. And keep on wanting it some more. And hold onto wanting that more than you hold onto wanting a drink. Stick with us tomorrow and see where it gets you for Thursday morning.

And being sober for a day is an achievement for each and every one of us. Every day is a new day in this game. If you are sober tomorrow then you will have been sober for the same 24hours as I have, and the same 24hours as mouse, and the same as JWN and the same as MIFLAW. All equal.

Sleep well dips

HammerMouseOfHorrors · 26/10/2010 21:40

Night Dipso - sleep well. Maybe tomorrow we can have a masterclass in how to love ourselves and feel self worth.

Ma - same goes for you. I don't wear judgy pants, they pinch. xx

I for one, am always here for any of you and will share any part of my life, my fuck ups, my spiraling downers, my regrets and my highs.

Please take care Brave Babes.

Sleep, rest, recover.

Tomorrow is a whole new day.

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Toclearmyhead · 26/10/2010 21:40

Will just sit here and read for inspiration for a while if that's ok?

Good to see you're still here Mouse :)

Been on self destruct for a few weeks but think am coming out of it so back here for inspiration and motivation.

Will try to catch up a little x

HammerMouseOfHorrors · 26/10/2010 21:44

Toclear

Please do. Just stay a while and maybe snuggle up on the back seat with the other Babes.

It's nice to see you back so we know that you are actually ok IYSWIM.

Take your time xx

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venusinthehauntedhouse · 26/10/2010 21:49

dementedma it is so easy isn't it to sllip back, and then for the quantities to increase as well. I really couldn't count how many times I have been on that particular merry-go round.

The thing I like about where I am at the moment is that in addition to all the nice physical aspects of being sober, it is just so much damn easier. When I was trying to do what you are it was just just bloody hard work. So much of my mental energy was tied up with thinking about which days I was going to drink on, would it be 3 days out of 7 or 4 out of 7 or genuinely every other day? Were there any 'special' occasions that would justify an extra drinking day? If I only had one drink on a drinking day (if I'd had to drive), could I discount that and call it a non-drinking day? It just consumed my whole thinking, and I was exhausted by the futility of it all.

Today I woke up in the morning and said, Today I will not be drinking. That was it, decision made. No complicated calculation or reasoning, just get on with my day. Of course that way, way oversimplifies it. I know how much I still want a drink some days and how much the cravings plague me. I was out of temptation's way on holiday but I've come back to full-on autumn and it could be so appealing to sit infront of a fire with a glass of something red. but if I was going back to drinking I'd rather just go the whole hog rather than the tortuous alternating nights approach.

venusinthehauntedhouse · 26/10/2010 21:52

toclear good to see you back. Take your time to settle in, get inspired, get strong and beat that bastard drink.

venusinthehauntedhouse · 26/10/2010 21:53

mouse I hope you also manage to have a peaceful night, and that Nemo and you both get some rest.

HammerMouseOfHorrors · 26/10/2010 21:58

Thanks venus

I'm off to bed.

I'll be back mid morning with hot drinks and bacon, sausage and egg baps or for any veggies, quorn sausage baps.

Night all.

Be strong. xx

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BBwannaB · 26/10/2010 21:58

Mouse and Venus thanks for your wise words, wishing everyone a peaceful nights rest'
Night night.

Karmann · 26/10/2010 22:15

Good evening brave people. Could I ask if any of you would have advice for a poster on another thread. I don't know how to link but the thread is called 'I need to confront my mum'.

I hope you don't mind me asking. Thanks.

zombieinhighheelswhatnext · 26/10/2010 22:29

ahh, backsliding!, i remember it only too well! Sad, i tried SOOOOO hard to control my drinking, ha!, bloody joke that was!, i could count the units for a week or so, then think 'oh, arnt i the clever fucker, i can control this' BAM!, back to the beginning again, back to waking up feeling like shit wondering what the fuck i had done, where i had left the car and on occasions my knickers! Sad - i too have that picture in my head, the open fire, the lovley drawing room and a posh glass full of red wine!, these days i move the picture on to reality, me, a big drunk lump on the sofa, smelly, sluring and nasty, that horrid drunken snear on my bloated face - not such a pretty picture after all!

im like venus, i like the decision to made every morning, TODAY I WILL NOT BE DRINKING, it makes life so much simpler!, its true what she says, dont over analyise it, just think about the moment you are living in!, one thing i have learnt on this thread is that im not alone, there must have been about 60 or 70 different posters since we started, just think, all those desperate miserable women out there, just the same as us! this illness is a fucking wanker! mouse has it spot on though, YOU have to want to beat the fucker, it wont let you go without a fight, its not an easy thing to beat, but you can!, so far, i am beating the fucker day by day, it dosnt give up trying to catch me out though, i have to wary, be ready to bash the barstard on the head, i just try and try and try! thats all anyone can do, you just have to want to enough!

im off to bed now, wishing ALL you babes a goodnights sleep! see you in the morning!!

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TheAntiChristi · 26/10/2010 22:35

karmann we'll have a look, i'm on my phone so not feeling very techybut can another babe please link it?

venusinthehauntedhouse · 26/10/2010 22:47

here it is Christi

zombieinhighheelswhatnext · 26/10/2010 22:53

god, if ever we needed a reminder of why we need to stay sober that thread is it!, those poor little kids must have been terrified!, it makes me so ashamed of the things i have put my dd through!

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