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36 in June, pregnant with 1st after 5 months with OH who doesn’t want it

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Firegirl35 · 26/12/2020 15:36

Hi girls I’ve been reading and lurking but really need to share my situation for some advice..

I’m 35, no children and have found out I’m pregnant. I’ve been with the father just 5 months, we have had a rushed relationship as first date in July and then I moved in 2 weeks later mainly due to my house purchase falling through... I’ve now bought a house that needs some work doing and am currently still living with him.

He’s 37, has a 6 year old daughter and 8 year old son from a previous LTR which he was devastated ended in her having an affair, telling him she didn’t love him anymore and tearing the family apart. He took it hard as he was the same age as his son when the same thing happened to him. When we first got together he said he’s not against having more kids ‘one day’. His mum went on to remarry and have a baby when she was 42, so he is open to it, but also he seems to think age isn’t really a barrier.

We have the kids exactly half the week (so he doesn’t pay ex maintenance), and things have been great until a few weeks ago when his son started having sickness and anxiety at meal times.. he’s asked his dad why he’s not with mummy and even said he doesn’t want Christmas. I don’t know if going between two houses is upsetting for them, but the ex has suggested she has them more. He’s dead against this, he wants to see them more, and he also doesn’t trust that if he gave her maintenance it would actually be spent on the kids. I’m not sure if he’s controlling her with this. I have no relationship with her whatsoever, she seems a bit threatened by the bond I have with her children but I think she’s coming round. The whole situation is new and they are still figuring it out a bit.

Anyway, I tested positive for covid on Nov 30th. I’m a firefighter and once the two weeks isolation ended I still felt very ill with symptoms like fatigue and sickness that weren’t going away... so I got signed off work another 2 weeks. I tried to get anti sickness tablets prescribed, and was asked if I could be pregnant. I took 3 tests which all came back positive and it was confirmed by an out of hours GP an hour later..

I was in total shock and couldn’t stop shaking for hours. I called a male friend who has been very supportive, and I registered with a maternity unit as I wanted an early scan to date me... I think I got pregnant when I was ill, as I stopped taking the pill but we did have sex once. The week before that though I was fatigued, so I don’t know. I have ended up contacting Marie curie for a scan as I knew I could get in there quick, and they booked me in for Xmas eve. We left early but the motorway was closed and the diversion made us late for the appointment, so they wouldn’t see me :(

I told my partner a few days ago, and his reaction was “for fcuk sake”. Then “what are you going to do?” He’s since made it very clear to me in several heartfelt conversations how he feels about it all, that it was wrong as it was a very bad time, he’s still getting his head around the situation he’s in and the fall out from it, the kids aren’t totally settled yet (more his son), and he always swore that if he had kids again it would be when everything was totally right as he wouldn’t want to bring another “broken person” into the world as he puts it. He said that everyone else would think the same, and that it’s just a pill. His ex terminated their third which he was against at the time but thinks they would struggle to cope as they would have had two young ones.. His opinion of abortions now is that they are fine, as she was fine with having the medical one. And he says he’s glad as that’s one less kid he would have messed up. He tells me it wouldn’t work as he knows he’s not ready for another baby now, that it’s Horrific and you need to be rock solid. I think he believes that I will 99% get rid of it, after a frosty day or so we’ve been getting on better even making jokes, but that’s because he thinks I’m definitely having an abortion. If I say something against that, then it’s “I don’t want to argue” “we keep going over it” or “it’s doing my head in”

For me-
I had a surgical abortion at 7 weeks when I was 24. I had only been with the guy 4 months and he lived 200 miles away, he was fairly happy and we were going to keep it but I was scared as I was young, living in a flat with a girlfriend, suffering badly with an eating disorder, and extreme sickness. I told my parents and my mum went mental, made me feel stupid and like a kid and that it was a mistake and I wouldn’t cope. So I ended up going to a clinic, coming away as I couldn’t do it, facing the wrath from my mum and going back to have it. It fcuked me up for years, I went through phases of being completely obsessed with babies to deciding I wanted absolutely nothing to do with them (then my decision was justified). I moved to be with my partner, secretly hated my mum for two years it took me to forgive her in my head. I was with my partner for 8 years, so it would have probably worked out and we only split when I decided to become a firefighter and he didn’t want to move away again.

I told myself at the time of the abortion that I would never do that again. But also as I’ve got older I’ve seen the rough side of life with kids so have a realistic view which makes me appreciate time I’ve had single/free. I know babies/families are hard work, but I see myself with one in the future. (Near or distant not sure). It’s really hard being a step mum/friend figure to my OHs two , and makes me want my own. I missed out on the baby stage and toddlers... ill also never be the one they want when they’re ill, and mums Xmas dinner trumps ours, they want to stay at mums Xmas eve etc... the mum always wins. It hurts. I feel like I love them like my own but I don’t get them if that makes sense, and it makes the pain of not having my own more. I thought before I got pregnant, if it doesn’t work out with me and OH (haven’t been happy with his behaviour- he’s quite lazy, dirty etc round the house, doesn’t pay me compliments, and he’s only an ok dad, he does provide and cook for them and they don’t go without much, but he’d be happy to have DS in a dirty jumper, and sometimes I think he interacts with the dog more than he does me/the kids! Both his other two were unplanned when ex was on the pill, but I think he thinks she planned it , and it’s possible he thinks that now although I have told him I forgot the pill as I was so ill with covid (the sex was consensual btw, no forced sex).

I’m stuck because my heart wants the baby, but I know logically and sensibly it’s not the right time at all. OH said he wants to enjoy life with me more first- go on a holiday together, get each of our houses sorted, have the kids see our relationship develop before bringing a baby into it. But I’m the one who would have to live with it afterwards. And I’ll be 36 when the baby is born, what if this is my last chance? I can get my house completed in a few months so that will be straight, and although my parents live 200 miles away they miss me and both retired last year so I think they would move down into the 2nd bedroom, if I had to do it alone and we split up. I’ve not told them because of the drama of last time, and don’t want either to tell me to abort because we’ve not been together long. I wanted to make my own mind up and tell them at 3 months when they would have to accept it. My dad is turning 70 in April and my mum 65, this would be their first grandchild and I worked out I would be able to tell them the gender for their birthdays. My girlfriends are supportive of me whatever I decide. I’m the first in our small group to be pregnant and they are all single. I keep thinking, if I abort and we split up down the line, it might be too late to find someone and have a baby with them. On the other hand, if I don’t abort and we split up, at least I’ve got my baby/family and I won’t be too old to find someone new to have a relationship with. If they had kids too I wouldn’t feel like I’m missing out if I didn’t have one as I would have one. But also, I fell pregnant after one incident when 24, and probably only a few now, so if I waited to see if this is the right person, and build up more foundation with him it might not be too late, however I’ll never know.

This is the most difficult decision. I have an appointment at Marie stopes on the 29th for everything- due to them not seeing me on 24th- a scan, medical questionnaire, counselling and the procedure itself if I want to go through with it then. If I don’t I have to wait till 7th jan.
I’m so torn :( Any advice or insights would be much appreciated Thankyou so much

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TeddyBeans · 27/12/2020 08:07

Just wanted to add OP, babies don't have to cost the earth. I, for one, have masses of baby clothes I'd be perfectly happy to send onto you. Facebook is full of barely used baby items at ridiculously cheap prices. The only things you really have to buy new are a car seat and a mattress. And even they don't have to be bank breakers.

It sounds like you've already made the decision in your heart. Don't bend to the will of others or for something as replaceable as money

BertieBotts · 27/12/2020 09:03

IME it's not so much the cost of the baby stuff as that can be done cheaply. It's needing extra room in your house for them, less flexibility for work, childcare costs - those are all the big costs.

helpmum2003 · 27/12/2020 09:04

OP I'm sorry you're in such an awful situation.
For me the potential child should come first and unfortunately if he treated this potential child like his current ones I think a termination would be best.

Ohalrightthen · 27/12/2020 09:36

To be perfectly honest with you OP you need to stop thinking about how you feel about this, and think about what life would be like for the baby:

-no financial security
-no family support
-stressed out mum working multiple jobs,away lots
-shouty, controlling dad who never wanted them

None of this is a good situation to bring a child into!

This is an unpopular opinion, and everyone will tell you that if you want the baby you should have it, but love isn't enough. Think about the quality of life you could give a child right now - is it honestly good enough?

TeddyBeans · 27/12/2020 09:49

Charming. So love isn't enough for my son because I'm in exactly that position @Ohalrightthen. Only difference is my donkey of an ex left when my son was 16 months old. What a dickish thing to say

Ohalrightthen · 27/12/2020 09:53

@TeddyBeans

Charming. So love isn't enough for my son because I'm in exactly that position *@Ohalrightthen*. Only difference is my donkey of an ex left when my son was 16 months old. What a dickish thing to say
That is a HUGE difference though! Your son was already born when your situation changed - you didn't have a choice about it. Surely you can see that isnt the same thing?
beautifulclouds · 27/12/2020 10:01

@helpmum2003

OP I'm sorry you're in such an awful situation. For me the potential child should come first and unfortunately if he treated this potential child like his current ones I think a termination would be best.
How would it ever be "best" for a baby to be "terminated" - to not even be given a chance at life Angry
pandamiranda · 27/12/2020 10:02

Do you want this baby?
If you want a child other people's are not the same no matter how hard you try to bond with them there loyal and love will be with there biological parents. ( from experiences)

pandamiranda · 27/12/2020 10:05

You can always choose a different situation

QueenPawPaws · 27/12/2020 10:31

@beautifulclouds because sometimes it is?
Rape. Children who have been raped. I had a termination because I couldn't afford a baby, and unless someone was going to pay for the child their opinion didn't matter
I couldn't pay for nappies, clothes and childcare out of thin air

MzHz · 27/12/2020 10:43

Having a child with an awful other ‘parent’ is something no decent parent ever quite forgives themselves for.

I wouldn’t choose to link the rest of my life with this man. It’s a constant thorn in the side

And he has kids elsewhere and an ex. Who he only has 50/50 to dodge the financial supportz

@Firegirl35. You know you’re in your own in this, you know he’ll never step up, you know it’ll break your heart when he lets your dc down for the millionth time.

Save yourself

Get out of this.

tiers4fears · 27/12/2020 11:09

He doesn't want the baby.

You do.

Are you prepared to raise this child on your own?

Firegirl35 · 27/12/2020 12:18

I’m still reading these everyone Thankyou for continued support. I think the best thing to do all round for everyone concerned is to have an abortion although it’s horrible to say

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happinessischocolate · 27/12/2020 12:44

Your life sounds very much life mine was, I got pregnant 9 months into a relationship, he already had a child and didn't want another "yet" I was 33 and had previously had an abortion at 24 and didn't want to risk having another one. We split after the baby was born but then got back together after 2 months, I then got pregnant again a year later but kicked him out when I was 2 months pregnant, due to his behaviour.

I've brought the kids up pretty much by myself for the past 17 years and don't regret a moment of it. Yes, I'd liked the relationship to have worked and the kids to have as their dad around all the time, but given the choice between my life and the possibility of never having children, I'd pick my life.

At 36 I would be worried about not getting pregnant again, but I was always worried about my fertility, so maybe that's just me.

chaosrabbitland · 27/12/2020 13:23

@Firegirl35

I’m still reading these everyone Thankyou for continued support. I think the best thing to do all round for everyone concerned is to have an abortion although it’s horrible to say
hi op , it can only be your choice , personally i worry if you have this baby you are in for a rocky ride , you just dont know if hes going to leave you alone or if he will turn nasty and demand the 50 /50 contact . i had my daughter exactly at your age , he was controlling ,violent and aggressive , he got worse after she was born and i left when she was 8 months old . got dragged through family court for a year , he wanted full custody , insisted on the contact being whenever he wanted before that , i had to tell him bloody well everything . he failed badly in court , i got the full custody and he got alt weekends . it settled down and went on until she was about 11 when i noticed how upset and withdrawn she was after coming back , i arranged for her to speak to one of her fav teachers as she refused to tell me anything and would start to cry , that afternoon i got a phone call from social services , they bluntly told me they thought she might be at risk and regardless of the court order i shouldnt send her over anymore , it wasnt hard , she told me that eve she didnt want to go anymore anyway , he had a meltdown and said she was a liar and he wanted nothing more to do with her , so op although obviously my situation then is a lot different to yours , what im saying is how hard it is when a person turns mean and sets out to use your child as a weapon against you . its only now im 48 i finally finally dont have to sit here in the house worrying if shes ok over there , is he looking after her ? panicking because shes sent me a txt saying shes not happy or hes shouting . even now i always wonder a little bit if we are both free , if the fact he now doesnt give a shit and she never even gets a phone call from him is real , op it was so hard over those years at times and i wouldnt wish it on anybody .. i think maybe although whatever you choose to finally do will be hard , your eyes have been opened , you are now awake and can see what this man is like . just from what you have written about him does not paint a pretty picture at all . i know you have said splitting with him ,not having the baby will mean being alone in a house kind of thing , but honestly i dont think it needs to be this way , im not for a minute suggesting you be the cat lady spinster lol, but you could adopt a cat or two for company , they are ideal pets for people that work , in the future when you feel better you could look into fostering , there are many options open to you , but i am sending you my prayers and good wishes for strength . if you feel alone dont , look how many ppl have replied to your post ,genuinely concerned for you and offering their advice and help xx
Jobsharenightmare · 27/12/2020 13:40

I think you'll be better of having a termination and then looking into having a baby on your own one day as this man isn't someone I'd want to have a say in any decisions about my baby.

Firegirl35 · 27/12/2020 14:22

@chaosrabbitland Thankyou so very much for sharing your story with me and your experiences, I really appreciate it and sympathise with you greatly. It’s helpful to hear what the future could bring, although no one can predict it. And actually, I had considered getting pets for a maternal outlet, I intend on getting a lodger and a puppy next year when I can, may get a cat in the meantime! We’re at my house today doing diy, no kids today. I have my parents on standby to come down and they know what’s happening on the 29th 😬

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BendyLikeBeckham · 27/12/2020 15:14

@BaaHumbugg

Even asking on here is not always a good idea OP, no disrespect to anyone posting as they are only trying to help, but one poster will be telling you to terminate and another will be telling you to keep it, then you have the added pressure of your boyfriend and your parents telling you what to do.

How are you meant to know what you really want if your decision making is so clouded by other peoples thoughts and opinions, all it will do is confuse you further. You really have to take absolutely everyone out of the equation and find what it is that you really want. Even if that means going to the clinic and then thinking no this isn't for me. It's so hard and I have been in that turmoil where you just don't know which way to go and it's awful, with the added pressure of feeling pregnant and awful.

Whatever you decide OP you've got this, your a flipping fire fighter for gods sake, I can't imagine how much strength that must take to do a job like that! Have some belief in yourself and your own decisions and remember you still have time. Wishing you all the luck in the world Flowers

This is a very good post.

OP, don't decide based on what is good for anyone else. Go with your instincts and do what is right for YOU.

Firegirl35 · 27/12/2020 15:52

Thank you. I have my first scan on Tuesday at 9am so I can at least see how many weeks I am..

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Firegirl35 · 27/12/2020 15:58

@happinessischocolate your situation does sound a lot like mine! I think though that I could probably be happy without my own kids if I thought about it in a philosophical it wasn’t meant to be kind of way... as in, having them at the wrong time or too early in a relationship or with wrong man and terminating because of that and other reasons... if I didn’t have any later on I’d think that was my punishment and I should never be a mum anyway

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Firegirl35 · 27/12/2020 15:59

@happinessischocolate did you meet a new partner in those 17 years?

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roarfeckingroarr · 27/12/2020 16:31

If you want the baby, have the baby. You don't have to have his blessing.

Suzi888 · 27/12/2020 16:34

If I wanted the baby, I’d keep the baby.
Your parents and your employer sound very supportive.

beautifulclouds · 27/12/2020 17:00

Imagine if you always wanted to be a mum and would see it as a "punishment" later if you didn't have any... yet you would have terminated two that you could have had? Sad
It sounds as if you'd really like to be a mum! It's okay to keep your baby x

Doughnut100 · 27/12/2020 18:41

As someone who has had a termination and then later struggled to conceive, I know that the termination can loom even larger when the prospect of childlessness is on the horizon.

At the start of the thread you seemed very much to want your baby. They don't grow on trees. It's not as easy as selecting a new one when you fancy, especially as you get older. You have already had one abortion that you weren't happy about.

My worry is that you're leaning towards abortion because he'd be a rubbish dad and because your parents want you to. But your parents will come around and you can leave him off the birth certificate.
What if none of them were involved and it were just between you and the baby? If you want the baby you should keep the baby.

The most important thing is that you do what YOU want not what they want.