Pregnancy post mc: Totally Grads Part 10!

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Sorry to hear about your sister laylas I'm glad it's not her waters and hope they can keep labour at bay for her.

daisy sorry you are feeling a bit , my NCT class really wasn't preachy and was very much here are your options, decide what you think you'll want now but be prepared to change your mind! It's a shame it's so variable all over the country.

We had the 6 day visit from the midwife yesterday and she said as long as baby is happy and healthy then you are doing the right thing and carry on doing it whatever it is. I thought that was fab advice

Happy due date irene and onions (I think??!!)

stitch fabulous news! Really chuffed for you

daisy I know what you mean about all the bf info (and pain relief) - Mr B and I have a 'whatever it takes' policy. I reckon that as these LOs grow up we are going to have a million and one things to worry about/feel guilty about so what pain relief we choose to have or whether we are able to BF or not will be an irrelevance in time. I'm tongue-tied (as are my dad, brother and sister) and the NCT BF counsellor told me that it my baby is too, I should just get the tie snipped. Why would I do that unless it was causing real issues for the poor thing? I'm fine, as are my siblings (I just look a bit pathetic eating a Mr Whippy). Grrr.

I'm really glad we have met some lovely people through ours or I would have a much bigger cob on about the whole thing. Our teacher is relatively balanced though having said that. We also got good pain relief advice from the parentcraft lesson.

Thanks for news that sleep is possible on the other side - this pleases me beyond words.

collie (and lara) First day of freedom!! :) Sounds as though the Pup is now at the business end! Like you I have more room up top but instead feel like I need to pee all the time and while I'm not, I do feel a bit like I should be walking like a cowboy whose just got off his horse! until you had written that about the joint clicking feeling I hadn't put 2 and 2 together but I also have that but only on my right side when I lie down. I thought it was the bean, but it's not. V exciting about the nursery.

Mother mac was down this weekend. Had to physically restrain her from going mental up the shops but we now have some lovely bits including our very own Captain Calamari. I am super chuffed.

Bag is on bed. Stuff is next to it. So sort of packed. Have an enormous amount of mahoosive maternity pads which basically fill one suitcase :)

cep I'll be thinking of your DS. My sister had gromits and is absolutley AOK.

irene and onions how are you doing? Hopefully the nip twiddling isn't stopping you from doing too much else

layla positive energy being sent to your sister...

mac, Eva is tongue-tied and noone has mentioned snipping her! She certainly has no problems BF - in fact she is bloody brilliant at it at adjusts the latch herself if she isn't happy with it!

Quite right too velvet - this is really good to hear, thanks :)

Glad to read hat some of you have had tongue tues and it hasn't affected feeding.

DS had a bad tongue tie and we did end up getting it snipped at about 8 weeks as it caused us problems with his latch. It was so very painful for him to feed and I got mastitis at about 6 weeks, largely because of the poor latch I think. After he'd been snipped things improved quite rapidly and I don't think I could have stuck with bf without it.

I was assuming that I would check for a tongue tie this time and had images of myself refusing to leave hospital until they fixed it! So it is reassuring to read that it need not be a problem. I think if we come up against that again we'll have to wait and see if it is causing a problem - I might have been a bit gung ho with getting the scissors in otherwise!

I am so hoping bf gets established a bit more easily this time.....

Scuse typos!

Oh and Stitch good scan news

Morning ladies!!

laylas so sorry to read about your sister, how scary. Good news her waters havent broken though. I've got everything crossed for her and sending lots of positive vibes. Keep us up to date.

stitch YAY for great scan and for being team pink!!!!

daisy sorry you've been feeling the pressure to do things the way we are told are right. As others have said as long as Phiippa is happy and healthy you are doing the right thing. Thankfully my NCT birth class wasn't preachy (although bf one was terribly so) and cmw is very relaxed and none evangelicalist!!

bigmac weekend sounds lovely. Yay for captain calamari! I've got no toys at all! Off out with DH tomorrow though to buy bits and with mum next week.

velvet lovely to hear Eva is doing so well!!!

Nursery nearly done!! just a bit of glossing to finish today and then final touches to accessorise!! so excited but properly freaked me out yesterday!!! 4 weeks left... How the hell did that happen????!!!!

And sendin lots of positive thoughts to Layla's sis - hope things are going ok xx

[Twiddles nips, sighs, gives up].

Still here. Nothing doing. Went to midwife this am for an appt. She said my cervix was soft but not dilated so no sweep. Head is down a bit further. Hope a walk this pm might help things along.

layla so glad her waters aren't leaking. keeping fx for her.

velvet so glad Eva is getting on so well.

daisy have to admit that's one of hte reason i didn't do nct classes.

irene don't give up hon, everytime your not doing anything twiddle away.

Sending positive thoughts to laylas Sister. Hope they're hanging in there.

irene any movement yet?

I had a shit day yesterday :( I think as it was D-Day, and at this stage DS was already a week old, I was expecting LO to make an appearance. But alas no. So lots of feeling sorry for myself, tears (especially when looking at DS) and just general miserableness which is just not me! I don't like it. So as easy as it is to say I'm just going to have to forget about dates & just wait! Watch this space I may crack :)

Aw onions that must be frustrating. DS was 3 weeks early and I know I'd be staggered if I got to my due date and probably a bit disappointed. Obv I'd rather this one didn't come prem (DS was 1 day prem, but 8lb 3oz) but I still don't expect to be pg by my due date so I think I get how you feel.

Thinking of you and hoping for some movement xx

Thank you all for kindly listening to my rant yesterday To be fair, the NCT class wasn't too bad as the teacher was a trained midwife, but the breastfeeding class and the NHS one at the midwife unit were awful - made it seem like any intervention was the work of the devil.

For those going overdue, I feel your pain. You really have my sympathies! However I have a theory that late babies are much more chilled - she may be a freak of nature but Little Miss doesn't like fussing or rocking, and is quite happy to sit and chill on someone's lap. Which i'm putting down to her being late. Hang in there x

Daisy in my moments of self pity & doubt I think how long you went overdue & what you went through. So me feeling sorry for myself after just a day isn't on! And I know what you mean about NCT. We avoided them with DS as had some experience of NCT mums and found them a bit clicky & all knowing. Having said that my BF is heavily involved with NCT & not like that at all. Suffice to say having a baby & bringing it up in the end, its what's best & works for you. We all know drinking & smoking & eating crap is bad for you but we still do it. There's no right or wrong, babies don't come with a manual, you do what's best. And if you make mistakes you learn from them. That's life! Sorry for the soapbox rant ladies, at ease stand by your beds [hwink]

[Joins Onions in the miserable overdue club].

Oh god, I hope you didn't take my message as "what are you whinging about"?

I felt so lonely being stuck at the top of the list, and it didn't help that the most hideous couple from our NCT course sneezed at 37 weeks and out flew a baby . That caused a bit of a hormonal meltdown (so much so that at 40 +12, and after 4 prostins, I marched out of the hospital and went shopping )

But it was fine, I insisted on G+A for the sweeps/exams/prostins, the epidural was marvelous (could walk, sit on ball etc etc) and the major bonus of the drip was that they knew exactly how quickly I should progress, and so when I didn't it was straight to CS with no exhausting labouring for hours. And the CS was fine, up and out of bed 12 hours later, driving at 3 weeks and I was back on the quadbike yesterday.

I'm not saying "look at me having it so easy", what I mean is that even though we had every intervention going, including FF, and it wasn't the waterbirth I wanted, it was great in its own way. Drugs are fab: G+A: good, epidural: good, horse tranquilisers: good, liquid morphine: bloomin fantastic

Hugs to all the overdue club

Hoping the end is very near for both irene and onions - I can only imagine how tough the waiting is ladies.

Did anyone else wonder if they were depressed at times during their pregnancy? I feel awful about saying this as I know I should be so appreciative for being pregnant, but the last few weeks I've felt so unhinged, worried and reclusive. Even if I imagine we're lucky enough for all to go well and to get a healthy baby, I seem to have convinced myself that I won't know what to do when it's here, might not like being a Mum and might get PND and that after all the wanting and waiting this might not make me happy. Do you think such thoughts are normal when you hit the 'near but so far stage' (32 weeks ish)? Scurries away for fear of being weird, unappreciative and self-absorbed....

Doo, yes, I had pre-natal depression. Am on phone but will write more later or can pm you x

Hi everyone, hope you are all well....this thread moves fast! Not been on the last few days, feeling a bit rubbish so working from home in between 40 winks on the couch! Pregnancy is mad, as soon as you think you are over one thing, something else comes along and takes over! Baby has really ramped up movements the last few days though which is so fab....DH felt him kick for the first time on Sunday, it was amazing!

Sending lots of positive thoughts to laylas sister.

Great scan news stitch

Hope things get moving soon irene and onions

Bit excited / nervous as ordered our nursery furniture / decor today, we want to get it finished before xmas as I have to work everyday in January due to it being our busy period and I reckon I will be too uncomfortable after that to enjoy it properly based on how I feel already...got the usual doubts about buying stuff too early tho, damn this mentalling!

Did anyone go for a 4D scan? We are thinking of it, but I know how nervous I get before scans so not sure why I would have a voluntary one! Am thinking I may be worrying less by 27 weeks though, or is that just a pipe dream?!

Daisey, yes, my induction and cs weren't that bad last time either, I'd take a cs in a heartbeat if someone offered it to me now. I'd be jumping on that operating table.

Doo your hormones are playing up, that's why you're tearful. I've thankfully not had pre-natal depression, but I had a few bad days after DS was born. More baby blues than post natal depression as they didn't go on a prolonged period thankfully but that didn't make them less strong. I remember feeling so hollow and chewed up and full of mastitis and tiredness that I had a bath and felt that it wouldn't matter if I just let myself go under the water and that be the end of me. I felt like a non person. Funny because probably I was more important than I'd ever been as a person because of DS needing me. These feelings pass usually, but warn your DH about them so he can march you down to the GP to get it sorted should he need to. I don't mean to give a horror story, just to say these things happen and freakery is normal. I met up with my NCT class girls about a month after DS was born and we had a chat and my goodness did I feel better to know everyone went through similar shittiness (that they didn't tell you about in the classes) and it made it a lot easier to deal with.

doo I know exactly what you mean. I cried for no reason whatsoever last night which is not really me. I was just so fed up of feeling crap and then worrying that what if my life changes so much I hate it and I won't bond with the baby and loads of other crappy thoughts! And then I cried again later because I felt so ungrateful for not being happy to be pregnant after what happened last time. Geez these hormones are no fun are they!

layla thinking positive thoughts for your sister x

irene and onions really feel for you at the top of the list. I'm sure I'll feel the same when I eventually get there. Time passes so slowly! Keep up the nipple tweaking! Or acupuncture's supposed to be good!

stitch on good scan and team pink.

daisy my nhs class was really one sided on the breast feeding too. We're going to a local Birth Prep classes in a couple of weeks (mainly to get to know other local pg ladies rather than to learn anything new as mn has told me loads of stuff!) Hopefully it'll be a bit more objective. FF was mentioned on the initial list of subjects they cover so fx

Had a lovely day wandering round town with DP today. Went to the Damian Hirst exhibition at the art gallery which was really quite weird. Had some tapas for lunch and bought some new shoes! Flat obviously-heels are out for me at the mo I think!

Doo - another big wobbler here and why I haven't been on mn for days - just felt like I couldn't give a toss, why couldn't I have my old life back, why aren't I bonding with my bump, how will I cope with all the responsibility etc.... some rational, some irrational. I am wondering if it is pre-natal depression..... I have had a couple of major crys, wrote some stuff down and talked it over with DH. Definitely feeling better, not yet 100% and am seriosuly thinking about seeing a professional if it doesn't get better - would you recommend it daisy? Thanks so much for popping back and seeing us.

Ok, enough of me, sending big eviction vibes to irene and onions - hang in there ladies and hang onto daisy's lovely theory on late babies = chilled babies.

WEll done on the nursery collie.

When is ds' op cep? - hope it goes well

Forgive my ignorance bigmac - but what the heck is a captain calamari?!

Waves to all and leaves tubs of Jaffa Cakes! x

Hey doo like the other ladies have said, you are not alone. I've felt exactly the same and just lately have been really doubting my ability to 'do' this. I think that I did indeed have a massive wibble at 32 ish weeks and have been feeling the same for the last couple of days. Tiredness doesn't help I'm sure. There is some good advice here from the other ladies, so know that you are not alone and that we are all going to be fabulous mums, however we do things.

wiw really sorry to hear that you've been feeling like that as well ((hug)) . Captain Calamari is a Lamaze toy (other good ones seem to be Freddie the Firefly). He is a pirate octopus - of course :)

NCT last night was the pain relief one and our teacher was actually excellent. admitted to having 1 x natural birth 2 x epidural births and was very balanced indeed (in fact more balanced than the NHS one). This has made me feel better.

shell lovely to hear you've been shopping :) I didn't have a 4D scan but considered it (i think collie may have had one). Didn't mainly for ££ reasons.

Thinking of you irene and onions (I have been very amused by the nipple twiddling posts btw)

I know this is boring but by heck I am knackered out. 1.5 more weeks of work and I don't know how I'm going to do it. Working from home tomorrow though...

hotnspicey sorry you had such a shit day yesterday. I think tears and a bit of feeling sorry for yourself is totally understandable, especially at your stage!! My sleeping is almost as bad as it was when I was off sick so we had tears from me at 2am this morning!!! We also had them the other night as I didn't think dh appreciated me!!! ... Which he does, I just had to go to the shop so had a strop!!

doo and wiw I'm so sorry you're both Feeling low and anxious. I think it's normal and not uncommon - see post above and other peoples breakdowns, but only you know how much it's affecting you. I think a chat with your mw/gp would be a good idea if it's troubling you. (hugs)

shell I had a 4d scan. At about 28 wks. I found I really didn't mental that much about it, unlike the 12 and 20, probably because we were having plenty of movement by then. I was a little nervous, but mainly i looked forward to it and it was nice to have another milestone. In the scan room it was all a bit sureal tbh, and at the time I questioned was it worth it. But dh loved it in particular, and we hot a DVD of everything we saw so we could watch it again it at home and that was really nice, somehow felt more real. It's been nice to share with friends and family too.

minnie your day sounds lovely. And new shoes- what a bounus!!! Heels???

Had day with dh too today. Been into town and bought a few more things for pup- baby bath (which I was adament I wasn't getting but our new bath is just too high), hooded towels, bibs and yet another grow!!! Also picked up some like new john lewis cardigans iboufht off eBay for £2!!! I love a bargain!!!

Upholstering my bargain chair tomorrow with my aunt !

Been having major bouts of BH today. Since about 4pm on and off all night!!! Timed them for a bit early on, but no pattern. Lasting from as little as 10 sec to 40 sec, with gaps varying from 30 sec to 3 min. But I've stopped timing them as we've been busy all night. Some of them just tightness, others a bit painful at the top of my bump.... Which incidently feels like it has dropped!! How are other peoples bh? Sound familiar? I know it's a good sign that my body is preparing but that's what's freaking me out!!!

morning ladies, i'm sorry many of you are feeling so bad at the moment.

doo and wiw i agree with collie If you think you're feeling lower than "normal" speak to your mw or gp, obviously hormones play a big part but sometimes it can be a bit more than that. There were a couple of people put on anti d's on my antenatal thread.

irene and onions i'm sorry my sweets that things haven't started moving yet, i know it doesn't help but they won't be in there forever, you're obviously making things too comfortable.

collie I haven't really had bh, but was getting pains in the bottom right of my stomach last week, but i put that down to being on my feet all day cooking. What is it that's freaking you, the getting ready bit, or that it's getting closer now?

wiw it's supposed to be friday but the little so and so has typically started coming down with a cold. (i'm sure he does it on purpose ) no temp but has sniffles, occasional tickly cough and the odd sneeze. He's sounding a bit blocked. So am pretty sure they're going to say no tomorrow at his pre-op. am gutted i really wanted it to be over and done with, for him to be able to hear properly again and back on the mend. All before baby gets here, i'm really worried they won't let me be with him if i have a newborn by the time of the op. I can't imagine not being there for him.