Jan 2010 babies and mummies here.....can't think of funny thread title!

[crumpette]

... sorry couldn't think of a title that didn't mention how to get orange poo out of a white vest, or how to get jiggy post partum!!!

Oops - should have also said, I think we will all conveniently forget this week's weigh-in due to easter, holidays, chocolate, wine etc.

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it! No loss, but a 1lb gain - eeeek!

Had sister-in-law and kids today. They are 10 and 12 yrs old and think Im the weird Auntie that never has coke and crisps and the likes so I made the effort knowing they were coming and got shit food in.

Im not good, Im bad and thats why I cant have that stuff in the house or Id live off it instead of lunch and dinner.

So far I have had 3 french fancies and a breakaway biscuit. I just can't do it if it's here.

Oh CTFN Im jumpinmg on your band wagon then - we can be the 'old puree school' mums.

Hi fake nice to see you back

Crumpette some babies do prefer the finger foods don't they, I remember a few friends babies doing the same. Im just assuming here that OLivia will be the same as DS and eat everything put infront of him but id be very lucky if I pull it off twice. I just secretly want her to stop worshiping my boobs!

Oh fifi 9 months would suit me just fine!! Was she never that bothered about feeding or did she worship the boobies at any time? I just can't see Olivia calming down anytime soon.

I did end up going out and had a fantastic night but suffered all day Sunday prob a bit yesterday too lol

Jacob still not well and has had 15 dirty nappies so far today been to doctors and they said to keep feeding him as normal and go back Fri if no better.

Think I will wean with puree's as I've got a bit of a phobia of chocking.

I'm not even thinking about weaning yet. I'll get her to 6 months and then start on the purees. BLW sounds a bit scarey.
I love rusks though... she may not get a look in!

Can I propose dropping the weigh ins... just for a month or so? It's so much easier to eat healthy when it's warmer weather. I need my layer of blubber fat to ward off the cold

good to see you FPT

A message for Lottie - I'm having no joy with Baby Whisperer techniques for getting Olivia to sleep longer at night. What does Gina Ford say ?

Just wondering if you can provide tips to save me buying a book ?

Have been a bit crap with Olivia really considering her feeding problems but really think she should be dropping middle of night feed by now (15 weeks)...

Hello - I've found you eventually!... after trauma with internet and busy Easter. Just marking my place before catching up with the thread.

But, haven't got new scales yet! They are totally broken so need new ones.

ali - 15 dirty nappies? I bet that's a joy for you. I hope he gets better soon and you have a few days at least with Jacob being well.

sockmonkey - i'd still like to do the weigh ins if anyone else is game? I say that but I have just been out and had a slice of cake that cost £4.25 so you can imagine how big it was so my scales might be "broken" next week

wmdo - i have the same worry as you about when DS will drop the boobs. I have this vision of having to wear all on 1 bodysuits so that he can't get to them because he loves mummys milk. How old do babies have to be until you do the never offer never refuse thing?

CTFN - should all babies at 15 weeks be dropping some of the night feeds? Jack is still up every 2-3 hours now he's in his cot but he can go longer if we co sleep.

So, Jack's EEG results aren't back yet which i'm annoyed about because they tried to get them for last Friday . They also gave us some vitamins for Jack but the dosage has been labelled up wrong which i spotted . My psychiatrist has also said that because my ADs transfer into my milk slightly that 1 of the side effects is that if you're sensitive to fits it can reduce your tolerance. That has just made me feel so guilty if my pills are the reason this is happening but when asked if i could come off my medication they said no.

WMDO DD was always an easy baby to feed - very efficient 10/15 minute feeds. I fed her on demand and she was very demanding in the beginning (!) but calmed down although I can't remember how old she was. She caught a tummy bug at 9 months and the Dr told me not to feed, just give boiled water for 48 hours. She went down without her bedtime feed with no problems and I basically decided that, although I wanted to keep on feeding her, as she didn't seem bothered I would leave it. Compared to what some of my friends went through weaning from the breast I had it easy!

DS is a totally different proposition and takes anything from 30 minutes to an hour to feed. I suspect that weaning him from the breast is not going to be so easy!!

alibobins I'm sorry Jacob is still not well. I hope he feels better soon.

newbeginning1 I hope you get everything sorted soon, both for you and Jack

Must go, supper to cook and I suppose I had better speak to DH!

Thanks Lottie. Does she say anything about how to get them back to sleep in middle of night without a feed?

My problem with Olivia is we really struggle to get her to take a dream feed. She is just zonked out. She might take an ounce or maybe 2 - but it doesn't seem enough to get her through a few hours.

london you are very impressive with twins. I GF routined my DS within an inch of his life and he complied nicely.
Olivia however, ha, Gina herself could not make this one do a damn thing she wanted her to do.

DS fed alot less and was tiny in size but by 13 weeks was down 7pm every night and woke at 11 for a quick feed and slept to 7am every morning.

Olivia, CTFN weighs approx 14.5lbs goes down anywhere between 7pm-8.30pm as she takes forever to feed and settle. WILL NOT do the dream feed. Sleepy as hell, strip her, change nappy, hardly feeds and wakes at 2-4am anyway so I gave up and dropped dream feed so she goes right through that but still wakes 2-4am and then, again anywhere between 5am-6.30am. Rubbish rubbish rubbish. She is 17 weeks today.

If she wakes any other time I switch on the hairdryer and she will either go back to sleep fine or only dose and the second it's switched off - ping, back up.

We walk with her, try to snuggle her on chest, lie with pillow on our heads (yes OUR heads) to see if she will go back to sleep herself. None of it works.

The only tip I can give and I think it's where I go wrong due to having a toddler with a busy social callander....All babies need to go for a nap after they have been up 2 hours. Any longer and it becomes a battle of wills. Naps are imperative if you want them to sleep well in the night. This I followed religiously with DS and it worked a treat. Just isn't easy now with DS tearing around.

new hope they have your reults soon how frustrating.

WMDO - I only wish I was 14.5 lbs!!! Who's Olivia on this thread then !!!

Our two girls sound like peas in a pod. It's exactly the same problem I have. Dream feed - PAH! When she doesn't want milk, she just won't take it. So it's a bit of a problem in the day too in that when she's full, that's it and then I panic thinking - oh no, I'll be up all night again!

Baby Whisperer pretty much says, do a ssssh/pat thing to get them to drop the 2am feed but its all dependent upon their daytime feeds/naps going to plan isn't it? As my LO doesn't take regular amounts during the day, I give in to her probably a bit too easy and also find myself going up and downstairs putting the dummy in . I think I need to perservere over a few nights of NOT feeding but it's finding the will and strength to do that (and a convenient time IYKWIM).

I have been trying to get Jacob to drop a night feed but it's impossible last night he did really well to begin with he went down at 8pm till 2.30 fed and then woke at 4, 4.30, 5,15 and wanted more milk at 6 but only had 1oz he is such a pain with his milk I really hope he does better on solids. He still never drinks more than 4oz aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh

I've tried to squeeze in an extra feed but he's so stubborn just clamps his mouth shut.

Am I the only one that loves BF? I'm dreading the point when Tobin doesn't want it or I feel that he doesn't need it.

Tobin's started to get used to his routine, at bedtime he more often than not will get put down and he'll just go to sleep with no fuss. He still has a nightfeed somewhere between 2am and 5am, but that's fine (mainly cos DH does that one ).

New you don't know that it's your pills that are causing probs, so don't feel bad. If you want to get off them, maybe see if you can talk to someone else about it. There's always ff if you think there really could be a prob. Whatever you do don't feel bad, this is not your fault.

Haha I read that as CTFN weighs 14.5lbs!!!

Lottie- sounds like GF speaks real sense!

Somewhat- I love BFing I just yearn to know that he would be able to take a bottle if I have to go to a meeting or have to leave him for an afternoon with someone else, so in that respect I am totally tied as he doesn't feed properly from any bottle not even the weird ones. With DD I found that she still BF'ed for comfort as she got older but from about 9 months or something she had most milk from a cup, I just followed her lead, so no weaning dramas.

New- am really annoyed for you. It's just not safe to send a baby who is fitting home and not bother to get the EEG results! argh Please don't feel bad about the ADs, Jack would need to already have a susceptibility to fits for that to have any effect- so it's definitely not your fault. What are you taking btw? If you want to reduce your ADs you are perfectly entitled to do so, as long as you do so gradually and with support.

Right, I'm just here to smugly post that DS slept ALL NIGHT IN HIS COT oh yes, that is right- a super long feed at 10pm, put down awake, asleep after less than 5 mins and woke up at 7am on the dot.

now who wants to bet he is awake all night tonight!? always the way!

Im all for purees here as well - I cant be doing with the mess or choking hazard of BLW!

Has everyone got their babies into a set routine now? Babymoo is 10 weeks old now and has her own routine at night - 11pm, 4am, 8am but in the day she can feed hourly for a while. Breast feeding is so different to bottle feeding.

Weather is poo here today - It almost rained earlier! Whoever has stolen my sunshine please return it!

mama2moo same here; I imagine I'll be weaning onto purées at 6 months. I am terrified of choking and am even known to panic when LO seems to choke on breastmilk!

Somewhat I love BF too and don't even question the fact that I am the only one on feed duty 24 hours per day. I do however get a little resentful when I cannot even have a few minutes reprieve in the evenings as LO regularly starts crying when my DH takes her. Yep, the evenings are always the heaviest going for me.

Crumpette well done to James. Tell him I'm dead proud of him! Our LO slept through from midnight to 7am in our bed (oh yes, we are co-sleepers: eat your heart out G F and baby whisperer! ) Does that count?

Oh im so happy for Crumpette and JArdins who's babies slept....

WMDO scowlls at screen

Ha, not that is good and hopefully we will all be there soon.

I however feel like crap as even when Olivia is sleeping it's like sleeping next to a hampter in a packet of walkers crisps, rustle rustle rustle.

Last two nights she has woke at midnight as well as 2ish then 5ish. How shit is that.

I refuse to start feeding her at midnight too but equally she refuses to sleep quietly.

I meant to put her in a sleeping bag tonight but I forgot and she is down now as is DS and the sleeping bags are in his room and I aint messing with either of them now!

CTFN did I say you were 14.5lbs, ha!! Id love to weigh that too then I could sit all night eating cakes and things, yum.

Was my Uncle's funeral today. I got a real shock as I went to walk right up to my Auntie at the service and I thought she was looking at something on a table but as I stepped into the dorrway it was my uncle lying in his coffin. I just seen his hands resting on his chest and jumped back. Didn't know it was an open coffin today.
I don't know if I done the right thing not saying goodbye but I have a lovely last memory of him cuddling DS and saying goodbye. Also I was so upset at seeing what I seen Id have been a real mess I think.

My poor Auntie, Gran and mum. It makes you feel very scared of loosing everyone close when this happens doesn't it. Sorry - V depressing - I need a glass of wine I think.

My dad was apparently there , I haven't seen him in 7.5 years. I had DD with us because I couldn't leave her with her not taking a bottle. He didn't speak to me or come to see DD? He hasn't met DS either but he was with his other granny.
I can't imagine treating my kids like he has.
My mum and dad split when I was 21 and the last thing he done was walk me up the ailse then just didn't keep in touch. He was always pretty horrible when we were growing up and was very nasty after the split so I just kept my distance too.

Can't work out why he'd be there though. He hates my mum with passion, infact made it his lifes work. Hated her whole family and didn't speak to me today so why? Who knows.

I thought I heard someone shout my name as I walked into the cemetery but couldn't see who then thought id imagined it. I hope he didn't shout me and it looked like I blanked him because I wouldn't do that.

Right drivelling on and on here. Need wine and to chill out a bit I think.

WMDO - just about to log off but wanted to say that I'm sorry about your shit day. Enjoy your glass of wine and I hope you get a few hours zzzzzzs before Olivia wakes. I'm off to bed now - exhausted! x

WMDO I dont blame for not saying good bye today. If you have a lovely memory of him then thats what you need to keep, not seeing him in a coffin. Hopefully your Gran will start to cope better now that today is done. When my Nan died the build up to the funeral was awful but once it was over it was as if we had put her to rest and she was peaceful. I hope you all feel the same about your uncle.

Strange that you Dad didnt speak to you. Dp has only just regained with his after 20 years. I dont understand how anyone can not speak to their children.

wmdo That sounds like a really rubbish day. Tomorrow can only be better. Hugs.

ali Doubt this will help but might be worth mentioning - my lactation consultant said that you sometimes can encourage them to swallow by rubbing the palm of their hand. Not sure if it only works whilst breastfeeding.

newbeg I can't believe how many mistakes they made and the sheer incompetence! Don't feel guilty re the meds it's not like you are on them for a jolly!! It is up to Health Professionals to make these things clear and to guide you.

I think I am another one for the puree school but then again I quite like the idea of giving him food to interact with so maybe I can carve some sort of hybrid Third Way. LOL

To be honest I am quite looking forward to weaning and given all the trouble with breastfeeding, TBH I have been looking forward to it since ages ago. Spoke to a few mums of other little piggies and most of them weaned (at least part way) really early on like 4 months ish. I hope to try to get as close to 6 months but see how I cope. I am resigned to living my life constrained by my breastpump like some kind of dairy cow.

Interesting about the 2-hour awake theory... my LO has been a real pain to put down to sleep. Once he is asleep, he sleeps wellish (longish time) but getting him there is getting increasingly traumatic. In theory I should be stopping swaddling now but I find that when he is trying to go to sleep he keeps insisting on rubbing his eyes which has the opposite effect and wakes him up instead. I don't notice him doing the flailing arms thing asleep hence why they say you should stop swaddling but then if I don't, when he wakes up in the middle of the night, he actually winds up waking himself instead of going back to sleep!

Interesting fact for the day that I discovered from one of my groups - apparently CostCo own brand (Kirkland) nappies are made by Huggies and I believe are a fraction of the price of named brands. I drove to Wales to my neares Lidl

Sorry, meant to say that I drove to Wales to my nearest Lidl to get the MN-recommended Lidl own brand nappies which turn out to be ok but am not impressed with the moisture-absorbing gel crystals escaping all over my LO's lovely bum. Not sure what the point of my saying that was - am a bit sleepy from 3 hours of trying to put Aidan to bed and 2 hours this morning of sticking the dummy back into his mouth as it was too early.