Jan 2010 babies and mummies here.....can't think of funny thread title!

[crumpette]

... sorry couldn't think of a title that didn't mention how to get orange poo out of a white vest, or how to get jiggy post partum!!!

Fingers very crossed new, though DD on the chunky side too! DS1 was always ravenous,and fed 2 hourly for ages, I realised we were in the 4 mth growth spurt when he could only manange 45 mins . My supply seems more responsive with DD so far and seems I can ramp up extra milk there and then should she require it, v different from with DS. Prob jinxed it too now. Not sure about hayfever in babies. Tiny sunglasses and vaseline around nostrils??!!
Had a lovely morning shopping with DD while DH and DS went to cinema, then treated DH to lunch for his bday.

Morning all. Just want to say that I feel totally refreshed this morning . DH gave me 3 blissful nights of early to bed and lots of sleep. For the past 2 nights, he reported that Olivia woke in the middle of the night, he popped dummy back in and took her in with him for 15-20 minutes and she feel back sound asleep, to wake around 6am happily chattering in her cot .

So my turn starts again tonight... I wonder if I'll have the same knack .

Morning all, hope you all had good (as can be with new babies, no sleep etc) weekends.

I feel totally disgusting and have a metal taste in my mouth making everything i eat/drink taste awful, pg????? not tested yet but still no sign of period soooo??????

just dropped ds off at a apprenticeship course, in school for a week then work exerience, and he gets paid, so fingers crossed he likes it, am just glad he's actually motivated to get out of bed.

Hope you all have a good monday, i need something really bad to eat, curry and rice for lunch, me thinks ( i lurveeeeee thinking i'm pg) not that i need an excuse but hey.

TTFN x

Party - not that I ever had it but a metal taste in mouth is supposed to be one of the early signs of pregnancy!!! OMG! Are you completely mad??? Go get a test my lovely and let us be the first, outside your family of course, that find out

Party...nasty taste has always been one of the first signs with me, along with extra drool. Fingers crossed for you . Get a test done!!!

Hello everyone

cant i can definately say you will be the first to know even inside the family lol, i'll be disowned, so i may keep it quiet for, oh say, 9 months

please don't hover all day as i will be responsible for jobs not done. i wiil get get one later as have dd12 here today as well.

xpost thanks sock news flash coming soon!!! i'm giddy for myself, keep peeing (giddyness or sign of pg?????), no extra drool but may be lots of blood when my mother kills me

Party - Do a test!! Purlease! Metallic taste in mouth is something I had with both pregnancies!

Hi everyone else!

party!! do a test NOW please we're all hovering and yes you must tell us first, absolutely, before anyone else even before yourself- OK? yes good [veryexcitedthinkspartyisverybraveladyvolunteringforlabouragain]
I had a strange metallic taste too and the peeing lots started before I had bfp in latest pregnancy, also really wanted to eat crumpets marmite and drink orange juice, very early on.

CTFN can I borrow your DH?! it's always the way isn't it- I posted was it only yesterday to say DS is sleeping through the night, aha well he has an evil sense of humour as he decided last night to scream and scream and so I went to get him again way past his bedtime and he was awake til almost 1am before he got sleepy then up again at 4.50. I did have lots of coffee yesterday and am BFing so perhaps linked?

I am feeling abit better as got my hair cut today woohoo a whole 45 mins away from DS, had a huge row with DP, who is floating around at home an awful lot at present which I hate- can you please look after him I'll be no more than an hour.. NO WAY.. please he is your child.. NO WAY I CAN'T LOOK AFTER HIM IM NOT DOING IT IM GOING OUT.. 'well I'm not having any more children with you if you won't look after him for an hour it's absurd behaviour,he is your child and you are an arsehole, and no more children means no more sex. ever..' 'oh alright then but I'll take him to the children's playground and chat up the mums' I kid you not

Hello everbody . Goodness there's been a lot of action for the January ladies these past few days. Possibly the most exciting hanging-on-the-edge-of-our-seat thing is happening to Party When will we all find out about an eventual BFP? Yep, metallic taste in my mouth was a real sign as well as small nose bleeds and generally feeling shitty (and excited). Isn't it hard to believe that this time last year most of us had just discovered we were pregnant?

Speaking of which it's great to see you on this thread Blondieminx! Where have the past 12 months gone?

Well, sleepwise it seems I'm not the only one with a regressing baby. Our little one has always given us a minimum of 4 hours between feeds at night and has often slept through BUT NOW! OMG what is going on? I'm lucky if I get 4 hours uninterrupted sleep these nights. Anyway, I'm very of CTFN feeling nice and refreshed after several nights of peace! So I shall be joining in the queue behind Crumpette for borrowing your DH for a nightshift or two!

ps Has the fat club Monday weigh-in been suspended, then?

Crumpette - I have been reading your posts. And quite honestly? I have no idea what to say! What are you going to do? Your posts are always so lighthearted and funny, but his behaviour is appalling. I mean really, truely, honestly. I am going to do a thread of honesty here (per brave New's post). My father was an abusive alcoholic. A really nasty piece of work. I won't go into details, but my childhood was not great. And it really left it's scars - especially on my brother. I wouldnt wish a childhood like that on anyone. Being afraid of your father and watching your father beat your mother kills the most basic of emotions inside you. I have spent most of my adult years teaching myself the skills that are needed to conduct a healthy relationship. It has taken many years to be at peace with my mother and respect her decision to stay with him (thereby putting us all in the firing line).
I am not saying it is easy for you - I know the fear and constraints around my mother that stopped her from leaving. But please think about yourself and your beautiful boy. You both deserve so much more.

Apologies if I have bought the thread down. But I really needed to say my piece.

Thanks all, party the verycherry on jan 2011 is sooooo not me - you are one very brave (or mad ) lady!

new thats interesting re the sheepskin I might have to try that, he is currently sleeping (or not as the case maybe) in an amby nature nest in our room, he used to be swaddled - tried that again no difference - tried sleeping bag, no difference, tonight have just tucked him up with a blanket, totally expect there to be no difference.

Maygirl went to clinic today to get him weighed and see if HV had any suggestions but she had nothing to add, and rather embarrasingly told me I should know more than her.. (used to work in HV team, one of core roles advising on sleep )however she did remind me of the research done on regression and one of the biggest periods is 15-19 wks, so maybe end in sight..... oh and DS is 19 wks - did'nt even know how old my baby was! I blame the lack of sleep... but rather worryingly the next period of regression is 22-26 wks soooo basically 3+ months-6 months is shitty!

Crumpette Your routine sounds really good (although did see your DS was not so good last night..)My DS has to go down at 7 ish as is wrung-out-bone-tired by then, last night I fed him at 5.30, 6.30 and 7.30 then put him down awake, he went off but woke at 11 screaming then fed again at 2.30, 3.15 (!!!!WTF), 4.45 and was up at 5.55. I woke dp at 6.30 to take him downstairs and went back to sleep til 9.15 when he needed feeding again - thank you volcanic dustcloud for keeping my dp here for extra night!

I hope you enjoyed your 45 mins off - though I have to say your dp is a tosser of the highest order and I think you have had way more crap in your life losing your dd etc to have to continue to put up with someone like him - what are you going to do? My dp had a wobble when I had my hair done (did take 2.5 hrs tho) but his issue was more would he be able to cope with both ds's on his own (wimp) he was fine, and will have to be fine when I go back to work anyway, hope I haven't offended you but I think you deserve so much more.

No screaming from upstairs yet, fingers crossed but totally unhopeful for good night.

Partys 'is she or isn't she' update.

iam very sorry for keeping you all on the edge of your seats, but you will have to remain there for a little while longer, i was so busy that i forgot (yes! forgot) about until about half an hour ago when i finally sat down.

We are in town tomorrow as erin has her injections so i will ABSOLUTELY, DEFINATELY get a test, promise, thanks all for caring about how insane i am

at your chuffing dh crumpette you seriously need to pack up your things and walk out, kicking him in the bollocks on your way. 'i will chat up the mums at the playground' WTF! is he 12 or something. where do you live?? if you are near me come here to my ever expanding, bursting at the seams house, you will have to have the couche or i will put ds on it,but you will most certainly NOT be spoken to/treated like that by any one.

i know this may be contraversial (sp?) but those of you with waking babies are you still bf them for every feed? i was just wondering because through personal choice i have never bf any of my children and they do sleep really well, i know breast is best but are non of you temped to try with maybe one feed of formula before bed. i hear people saying how lovely that quiet time of night is to bf so i understand why you don't want to stop that, but i seriously could not have had 5 children if i was up the amount of time some of you are, i know through bleary knackered eyes your reading this but you are all amazing mummies.

Crumpette - another vote for leaving DP. If you can bear to move from south to North London (much nicer) I have a big spare room/nursery/playroom here with bed and space for travel cot you can stay in for a while. Plus you know I'd really get you organised .

Serious.

x

Morning all!

Fabulous night here! Nico went down at 7, woke once for a feed at 2.30 and slept until 7am! Bliss! I reckon it is a one off though, so not counting my chickens.

Party - I am still bfeeding Nico, aside from one bottle of ff. But that one bottle has not helped the sleeping. I plan on weaning Nico onto babyrice and purees in the next 2 weeks or so. And I think very soon after I will put him fully onto the bottle. He is starting to do the same that DS1 did at this age, drink enough to curb his initial hunger and then turn away to watch the rest of the world. DS1 was bfed until 22 weeks, wanted to do more with Nico, but he like his brother has other plans!

Cannot believe our LO's are already nearly 5 months! Where has the time gone?

Re the weigh in, I have managed to lose another 4lbs! Only another 7lbs to go until getting to target weight! So am now at 10st. Hoorah!

Enjoy the weather all!

Re the weigh-in, I've managed to crack the 10st plateau. Now 9st 13lb woohoo!

Ahhh, that's better: LO slept from 9pm until 8 am, waking up just once at 2.30am for a snack! Party, yep, I am bf her exclusively and TBH I just tell myself that being woken up at night is part of the deal. On my head be it.

Where is Crumpette? Brave posts ladies and I think you are right!

party - i'm literally on the edge of my sofa, please please please do a test today and let us know My friend is late but we're hoping she isn't pregnant and that her red lady friend is on holiday abroad and can't make an appearance because it can't get back because of the ash cloud DS has 1 bottle of formula at night to get him to sleep because he seems to need a lot of milk quickly to fill him up whereas like you mk he seems to feed then get distracted or he falls asleep because that's what he's used to.

ctfn and mk - well done on your weight loss, i'm though. After a week of bad eating and a gain i'm now back to 13 stone 5lbs.

verycherry - how was last night, any improvement with the sleeping? How long did you try swaddling for? I tried it again and although he didnt like it at first once he realised swaddling meant night time he seemed ok. Also, might it be that your DS is ready to move on from the nest? I'm not sure what age they're suitable up to but i found that once DS was getting too big for his moses basket he wouldn't sleep well until i moved him to his cot.

crumpette - good on you for having your hair done. I'm booked in to have my hair done today but i'm having to take DS with me so i might not need them to cut my hair because i might end up pulling it all out if it's a nightmare I'm taking him swimming though this morning in the hope he's that tired he will sleep through. Next time you should tell your DP to go and chat up the other Mums. What woman wouldn't want a catch like him?! Any guy that chats me up whilst he's looking after his young baby whilst the mother is having her hair done definitely ticks all my boxes

ali and lottie - are you ok?

DS saw his father again yesterday but he still got really upset but instantly stopped crying when i held him but i think he was a bit better with him. Fingers crossed by the time he's a teenager Jack might actually like his Dad.

I also had my appt at the hospital yesterday and was really good and din't put a brave face on but it does mean my psychiatrist thinks my depression is worse but has said that medication isn't the answer for me and i need to see one of his colleagues so we will see what happens. Maybe his colleague is the person getting my padded cell ready?!

I hope everyone enjoys the sunshine x

crumpette will you seriously consider ctofn's offer?

party I would give a bottle of formula if I thought it would help but IME once my babies have established bfing adding in formula doesn't help. Ds1 was ff from birth, fab sleeper 7-7 from 11 wks, ds2 bf til 8 wks then ff but still woke in night til 6 months, ds3 bf til 12 months, tried formula top ups/ dream feeds from about 17 wks nothing changed ended up doing controlled crying at 6 months can see ds4 going same way...... Slightly better night last night though and I know he can sleep 8 hrs straight as he's done it before so hopefully he'll get back to it again soon......

mk ooooooh lucky lucky you am v

What!? Who reminded us of the weigh-in!?

DS had a good night again last night, didn't wake up til 7am! woohoo! Then he is very hungry when he wakes up and spends hours and hours every day feeding but if he gets lots of milk in the day and then sleeps I am quite happy

mistletoe thank you for your post. I am kind of shocked at myself, tbh. I am really the kind of person who was always really outgoing and had lots of friends and ambitions and would travel the world by myself etc and had such strong radars for idiots that I would never have found it conceivable to have stayed with someone like DP. He recently said in a satisfied way 'I beat it out of you' when referring to my normal persona and tbh I think he's right, I am just a shadow of my former self, and have passed up so many opportunites because of him (I had interviews for med school etc that he wouldn't let me go to) and jobs and have deliberately ditched friends with exceptional rudeness simply to avoid the consequences with DP of having friends. I had definitely decided to leave 2 years ago and had packed up all our things and asked a friend (who now has also been shed) if we could come and stay in her spare room (north london at the time!) then literally within a couple weeks of making that decision, and writing a comprehensive dossier of reasons and examples of abuse and violence, DD got ill.. and then she died and then I got pregnant and here I am now with DS. Suddenly 2 years have flown by and I'm still wasting time with DP. I feel really stuck, because I don't know what he would do if I were to leave, and also I don't know how to cope financially now that I'm on maternity leave etc. I have always hoped he would 'reform' in some way and suddenly start being nice but as long as he drinks I think it's impossible, and he's not willing to stop drinking. He was so lovely to start with and he's so nice to his colleagues when he's sober, but I only ever see him after he's had a drink and he's horrible. I always thought he'd never be a risk to DCs but I'm not entirely sure of that either. DS is a baby now and I can protect him because he's tiny and not being like a normal child walking into the line of fire,. but if he were bigger I wouldn't trust DP with him. DP said the other night when I put him in his cot and he was still crying, in a really awful angry tone, what the fcks wrong with him why is he crying, and kept going on and on repeating why is he crying getting angrier and angrier, and then started saying how thick is he it's bedtime. But the sheer venom in his voice made me very scared that he's capable of potentially hurting DS I said don't be such a dck, he's a little baby, he's crying for a reason! And I went to get DS and deal with him uptairs, but there is an ever-present concern that he is unpredictably violent when he has been drinking. His violence towards me has tailed off, it was extremely bad 3 years ago or so (after he'd charmed me into being with him and staying he then switched like jekyll and hyde) and it reached its peak maybe 2 years ago and he's now much better but he still did those things to me and they were bad. And he worked with the police for years so it's not like I could ever go to them for help because he's 'in' if you get me and he will make counter-allegations and it will be me that gets in trouble unfairly (he was arrested when I was pregnant with ds after he kicked me in the stomach and he charmed his way out without even a caution because I had left a bruise on his arm trying to defend myself, so it's now logged that I am the problem and not him, but I had to do that to get him off me, but they took pictures of his tiny bruise but he is the psycho!!)

Blah

Sorry for vent! I just kind of long for the day when he either magically disappears or becomes lovely and reasonable, but it's not happening, or wish I would win euromillions and leave with DS to live in another country!

*anyway sorry just venting really I know I should leave it's just I don't know how

Also I really am scared that if I ever needed outside help I would end up losing DS. The one time the police were involved, when I was pregnant, I got a letter from social services saying if there were ever any further reports of anything then they would intervene (ie DS would be taken into care, at birth) which is like another axe over me that if it became known what problems DP causes I could lose the most precious thing in the world to me so I keep quiet. Argh!

CTFN thank you

You know Crumpette it's interesting to read about you and med school because one of the things that has always struck me about you when reading your posts is how BRIGHT and KNOWLEDGEABLE you are. It sounds like you have so much to look forward to and, quite frankly, you seem like a lovely person.

Of course, if you fancy getting away to the Loire Region you can come and stay with us! [

Crumpette you are not nuts; just stuck in a situation. Why on earth would you lose your DS?

PS formula milk- DS has been having maybe just under half a small bottle of aptamil in the day for the past week or so, to get him used to bottles. But suddenly his nappies are BRIGHT GREEN is that normal!??

Oh also because he is SO hungry at the moment I have ordered some baby rice (via ocado!) and might start him next week with a spoon or two of it mixed with breast milk, he's just so big (currently busting out of a 3-6mth bodysuit) and feeding constantly all day long that I think he'd be OK if I try him with a little bit

x-posts, well I could have gone to med schoo but now I am too old! Or at least I feel it. Have been with DP since I was 20.

The letter was very nasty after I was kicked when pregnant and literlaly stated that if there was ever a single report of an incident again DS would be taken away. I would never allow anything to happen to DS, of course, however bad DP can be I would always protect him and DP never harmed DD in any way so I'm reasonably sure he wouldn't ever hurt DS but that is what the letter said. I'm more or less OK, but women who genuinely need outside help in getting away from abusive partners, or who perhaps really need the police to turn up, would be scared off by a letter like that. It becomes the unsayable unreportable thing for fear of the consequences. I feel sorry for the vulnerable people out there who have received the same letter and may be living with much worse than I am, because it was a non-negotiable thing. No 'if you leave him we'll help you' or anything, just literally saying if there was any other report of any incident then that's it- gone