October 08 - Got ourselves some crying, talking, sleeping (sometimes!) walking, living dolls.

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Well somebody better start the new thread, so might as well be me!

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Wouldn't be able to take medised and other anti-itch stuff though, and medised doesn't make all children sleep.

I'll just suffer with no sleep, then.
Hopefully he's putting himself to sleep for a nap right now.

myjob I thought Ronshar meant her dh was doing giants on the bar and I thought it was a joke! lol. H doing giants makes more sense... although very true, that is amazing.

Sorry for the crap night Star. I personally wouldn't give M Piriton but only because DS is a rare creature who becomes hyperactive when he has it! I think they can have it from the age of 1, I'm sure the bottle we have for DS's hayfever says from 12 months...... Hope things are better tonight.

Ronshar - Did you say there is a video of H doing her stuff on FB? I can't find it if you did!

Qwokefrom his (long) nap screaming. Im holding him now and he's still crying screaming. I triedcarrying him, rocking, putting down. He wants to be held but wont calm down and is tossing about so much. I wish he could talk. any ideas? help

Has he had any pain medication recently? I'm not much help because if nothing else was working with M I would give her the boob & that always works for us.... The other thing I would try would be some medicine and giving him a cuddle whilst sitting down to let him thrash about. He's probably tired and grumpy but doesn't know what to do with himself.

another bicarb bath? something soothing to eat (soup, yoghurt)
(but agree that boob is wonderful in such situations.)

Thanks I ended up bringing him outside - not sure why I thought to do this. And as soon as we got outside, he stopped crying and was doing that snuffling thing kids do after they've been crying really hard. He calmed down and ran around happily in the garden then flapped his arms and pointed to the pushchair (this means "I want to go feed the ducks/birds").
I couldn't give him medicine because he wouldn't stay still Dh home now, so I'll give him some after a bath. Thanks for being there! I thought I was going to lose it for a minute!

oh, forgot to say in that post! I think he was hot.
It was really warm in here. (I like it warm). When the breeze hit when we got outside, he stopped immediately. I think maybe the spots itch or bother him more when it's warm or when he's warm. He's happy as a clam now and hasn't had meds since this morning.
If he remains this happy and temperature free, I'll bring him to cm tomorrow from 8-3 or maybe just 8-10.30 then 1-3 as I can take him in the middle of the day tomorrow. She only has him tomorrow and Friday so that will work, she said. Most are scabbing but not all are scabbed over yet so he's not technically "non-contagious" yet.

Aubergenie I hope you get your class sorted soon. It's always hard to hear that your class has misbehaved for others, isn't it. My class misbehaved at computer class the other day and I told them that I was embarrassed and that they should be, too. A colleague and friend said "wow that's harsh". I guess they were harsh words, but they were really rude to the teacher and no one was doing what they were meant to do, which was for me because they are usually angels.

Nah, I don't think that's harsh at all Star. It's important to show that the things they do have an impact on others and consequences. I would be happy for DS's teacher to say that to him if the class misbehaved. Glad Q calmed down for you. It breaks the heart when they do that little sobbing thing...

Aubergenie - Sorry I missed your post! Hope you get them straightened out but I imagine it must be tiring when you can't let your guard down.

DS is driving me MAD!!!! He keeps doing such naughty things! Today he: threw a wobbler about doing his spellings and actually kicked his spelling book across the garden. He pinched M for no reason then lied and said she'd fallen over & hurt herself. (I knew this was rubbish as I can tell when it's a cry because DS has been being tormenting her) And then tonight, he was allowed a film because in the end he did his reading and got 10/10 on his spelling practice, but it meant that he had one story & no CD player on. M had been crying while I ate dinner so I popper up to check she was ok he had his bloody CD player on! Needless to say it has been confiscated indefinitely as he "clearly cannot be trusted". I think he's tired, but he wont stay in bed in the morning. Grrrrrr!!!!!

Thanks 50ft. It is good to know that you would be ok with it as a parent. It probably also took other teacher by surprise because I'm usually very calm and focusing on the positive and ms happy -smiles. I was straight faced, unimpressed and stern this time. They need to see that side sometimes!

DS is really testing boundaries! Goodness... is something making him feel the need to seek that attention? Is that kid at school still being unkind to him?

No, everything has calmed down with the other boy according to DS that is. What makes it worse is that he makes fake apologies that really grate on me. No punishments seem to bother him though... I might just see if anyway wants to swap him for, say a pigmy goat or maybe a duck..

50ft - I was reading your post and wondering whether something at school was maybe causing your ds to be showing so much attention attention-seeking behaviour, then I saw that Star asked the same question. Have there been any developments with the bully?

Star - I really hope you all get some sleep tonight.

Star - I told my class I'm ashamed of their behaviour as well. Today I discovered that four of the boys in my class have been leaving school after they've been dropped off in the playground in the morning, going to the shop and stealing sweets.

Ds crying. got to go.

How horrible, aubergenie, that they are stealing, too. Is there any way to get the shopkeeper involved to speak to them with you present - would that astound them?

I've restrained Q and squeezed the sides of his mouth while I forced piriton in with a syringe, so I do hope he sleeps as well! Who knows, though. I really just want to let him cry a bit and see if he goes back down but if I do that, DH comes in and picks him up and says "he's not feeling well. he shouldn't have to cry on his own" I agree with that to a degree... and I can see that now but between 12-5am I can't. I actually considered at about 2.30 this morning, putting him in the car and driving him to sleep but then realized I was so tired I'd probably crash and that would be the end of both of us.

50ft, bullies are really clever and manipulative. I wouldn't be surprised if there is more going on. IME with children, they don't usually just misbehave for the hell of it. There's usually a reason. But, that's speaking as a teacher and former play therapy counsellor... not as a parent. I really hope this kid is leaving your gorgeous ds alone.

Hmm.... Do you think that it's something at school....? Bugger. He insists that everything is fine. Maybe I'll have a word with his teacher, but he does seem tired & certainly looks tired. He's also started playing on the Wii in the morning without asking permission despite being told he can only play if he asks first. He is also being really silly and doing silly voices & jumping around & being to rough with poor little M. I am wondering if the illness over the holiday wiped him out and he hasn't had much of a chance to recoup before going straight back to school.

If not school, is dh working more than usual lately? Is M being more demanding of your time suddenly?
If not, then could be something at school. I'm always shocked at how long some things go on out of sight and ear shot of teachers and parents... and you wonder how because I feel like we're all over them all the time at school! But it happens

50ft - just to offer parental input rather than teacher input, I think it's perfectly possible that ds' behaviour is down to tiredness. Dd gets the same when she is overtired. Is O struggling more with the lighter mornings?

Fingers crossed for the piriton working some magic tonight star.
Does dh deal with Q in the night too, or does he leave it all to you?

Put ds in a fluffle this afternoon. I have 20 size 2's, so technically enough already, plus my fuzzi bunz (in pink) and berry plush, but I do definitely need more wraps if I use the fluffles, as only have 1 fleece one in a size 2 and a couple of motherease in M/L which just barely fit as he's over max weight by a little.

Star - DH IS working more than usual but DS prefers it when it's just me he and DH do not get on very well. M is less demanding if anything. Children are an enigma!

CSWS - I am glad you think it could be tiredness too as I was worried I was overlooking something. He is getting up at the crack of dawn and I now suspect that he has been putting his CD player on when he should be sleeping. He looks SHATTERED, he has baggy eyes and everything.

I am not dismissing your advice teacher-ladies I will investigate further to make sure that everything is ok at school. I'll speak to his teacher to make sure he's ok.

I'd forgotten about his being ill over the holidays 50ft and just remembered what you'd said about the bully-boy. That's very likely to be it then - he's probably still exhausted, expecially if he's staying up late with his CDs.

Star - I wanted to take them to the shop to apologise to the shopkeeper but the head teacher said that the shopkeeper would be within his rights to prosecute so we couldn't, in order to protect the children. (I'm surprised - I thought children couldn't be prosecuted until they were 10 or something.) Anyway, we've arranged a visit from our community police officer to have a chat with them. I think that'll give them a bit of a jolt.

Good plan Aubergenie! Is the community Police Officer a huge bloke? THAT would scare them!

Star just to say that spots will be much more painful if Q is hot so you are going to have to turn down the heating and open a window. Whilst you put back on your big winter coat indoors

Aubergenie. I think a visit from the police should be a good start. Then take them to the cells at the poilce station. Little buggers.

50ft. G currently has her notebook confiscated, due back tomorrow and her DS confiscated. All because she has been playing them at night and in the mornings. It isnt the first time and most likely wont be the last!
Both my girls are shocking when tired and I do find going back to school after a holiday is a bad time while they readjust to school times etc.
Remember deep breaths and dont get sucked into an argument. You are the grown up. Thats what I have to remind myself at least once a day!

Sorry I didnt realise that the gym FB is a closed group and I couldnt share the video to my own page. I will see if her coach can send them to me personally.
My DH most def couldnt do giants. I dont think I could even hold my own weight let alone swing round in a circle!!!