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hackneyzoo · 09/02/2010 19:12

I told you it was a lame title.....

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tinkstoddleriswalking · 31/03/2010 16:09

hi miss j - exciting booking in i watched obem @ lunch time while bracken was asleep!!

mm - parties sound great
weather is a pain isnt it!!!

120 · 31/03/2010 16:28

hello tink and moose. yes weather most shitty.

moose I love all the party planning! Can you do 'space' food by doing the old hanging doughnuts on strings so they have zero gravity food to eat without their hands?

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moosemama · 31/03/2010 18:17

120 I'm liking the zero gravity food idea. Ring doughnuts sound ideal. Thanks!

I have actually bought some of the freeze dried astronaut food for them to have after their pizzas. Icecream and strawberries. I'm sure its probably disgusting, but I also have rocket ice lollies so hopefully they should take the taste away.

Dog, good to hear from you. Feel like we haven't crossed paths in ages. Glad to hear you are managing to get some time with your oh. Sorry to hear your dcs are poorly though. My dcs seem to be lurgy free-ish at the moment. Ds1's tongue does keep flaring up and hinting at the scarlet fever coming back, but he's obviously fighting it because its always back down again after a good night's sleep. Dh is the only poorly one here at the moment. He has a cold Man Flu.

House move sounds good. Your dcs will love the garden and believe me, its fantastic living across the road from the school. I can be at their classrooms inside of 3 minutes on a good day. Great in the mornings, but unfortunately not so quick in the afternoons as I generally have to wait for half an hour while ds2's class is last out and ds2 has to go back in 3 or 4 times to get things he's forgotten.

I know what you mean about not being able to settle. My sister is renting at the moment and the house she rents is on the market, so she has to keep tidying up for viewings. Then last week the Estate Agents turned up, let themselves in and started showing a family round without telling her. She was upstairs, heard a noise and came downstairs to find a room full of people poking through her stuff!

Dosy mare than I am, I forgot about ds1's chess club AGAIN today and stood outside his classroom in the rain like a proper numpty until he came and told me through the window that he wasn't coming home for another hour - doh! I don't know what's wrong with me at the moment, I feel like my brain is coasting and can't quite get into gear. Maybe its old age catching up with me.

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moosemama · 31/03/2010 19:55

Books, have bought the freeze dried astronaut food so we only need to open the packed. In my defence, its supposed to be the stuff NASA used to use when they first started space travel.

I think the boys would love wet weather training, but not sure their Mummies would appreciate soggy sons. They can be proper precious round here.

Have just been on ebay and bought a job lot of 50 garish green plastic eggs that you can fill with treats/sweets. I'm going to put a small sweet in each one and hide them all around the place, then send them on an Alien Egg Hunt. Its a bit random, but hopefully they'll enjoy it anyway. We have 'Starburst', 'Haribo Star Mix', 'Milky Way Little Stars' and Mini Wham Bars that have rockets and stars all over them.

Lol at dd being the double agent. Might be a fun idea, but can't see her cooperating with the fingerprinting process somehow.

I couldn't possibly tell you who the double agent is of course - all highly top secret, classified information y'know!

teaandcakeplease · 31/03/2010 22:01

Getting behind on thread as DD is still poorly. How will I ever get her out of MY bedroom and back in her own after she recovers? She likes it in here A LOT...

PatTheHammer · 31/03/2010 22:10

Helllllooooo, just been helping out with the school production.

Oliver, Oliver, Never before has a boy asked for more.....................!

It was excellent!

Bookmarking: Back soon

(oh and we set up video camera to try to catch the guinea pig killer but no luck last night!)

teaandcakeplease · 01/04/2010 08:46

DOG - sorry to hear Isla and Beth are poorly. Hope that they're feeling better today. The house sounds lovely near the school! And having a big garden

Miss J - my 2 children are 17 months apart My second child also had colic and screamed for 3 hours a night for the first 10 weeks! But after the first hard weeks it's been lovely since, getting lovelier everyday now they're older and playing together (ish)

MM - Still in awe of your party planning! The cost alone must be huge for this extravaganza, if I lived near you I'd want to come along too Completely about your sister being at home when estate agent turned up unannounced! What if she'd been showering or something? I can relate to forgetting about chess club. My memory is shot since having DCs and I regularly do things like that

Does anyone know if your memory ever improves again?

Isabella is still on the antibiotics for the tonsillitis. She is definitely slowly getting better, but still wants to sleep in mummy's room After being here since last Thursday.

So ladies, how do I persuade her back into her own bedroom and bed?

My mum is over later, which I'm really looking forward to.

missjackson · 01/04/2010 08:58

Hi everyone...

So MM is there any way you can send your party boy secret agents down to pats school to uncover the secret GP killers? I also have a friend who works in MI5 should anyone need a contact...

dog new house sounds great, espesh with a big garden. Sweet A - it was prob easier for him because he was already one of two, so didn't have that pfb thing going on. N got jealous last night when I was cuddling our friend's little girl on the sofa - he got out of his plastic car, came over to the sofa and insisted on being fed - did the same thing when I was cuddling my goddaughter a couple of weeks ago. So am hoping 8 months will make all the difference!

tea glad the antibiotics are kicking in. Not sure how I would persuade her back to her bed - we still have N in with us. Have fun with your Mum.

books I have managed to miss out on Glee but I think I would love it.

Spent the afternoon and evening at friends with 20 mo twins, N had so much fun. They have an amazing play room with a massive ball pit, bubble cars, and hundreds of toys. It's like their own soft play place - N in heaven.

tinkhastwoeasterbunnies · 01/04/2010 10:03

morning

party ideas gr8

hi to all

dog - poor u

moosemama · 01/04/2010 11:23

Morning

Tea, glad your little girl is getting better. Not sure on the tempting back to her own bed as we have always had a pretty strict no kids in our bed unless its morning rule. We tend to all pile in at weekends for drinks and croissants/toast/hot cross buns - as you can imagine, we have a very crumby bed at the weekends.

Surprisingly the party hasn't cost that much - less than booking a Wacky Warehouse or other venue type thing. I've kept the costs down by shopping around online and buying bit by bit on ebay as ad when I find bargains. Mind you, if I charged for my hours of working on it, it would be the most expensive party in history lol.

MissJ/Pat, if you haven't caught the culprit and all the boys pass their training and achieve Certificated Secret Agent Status I'll send 'em round.

Right LENNI or HKZ are you around? We are having SENCO/school type trouble again. I am going to start a thread in SN to ask for advice but thought I'd ask you guys first.

So, we were really pleased with the SENCO/Teacher meeting, got lots of positive things agreed and an IEP followed two days later. That was on the 13th of March and nothing has happened. Nada, not a single thing. He hasn't been informed of his new targets for handwriting, letter spacing and starting tasks as soon as they are set. They haven't arranged a lunchtime dinner lady buddy for him and haven't set up his old teacher as a safe adult/mentor and the bullies started up again and ds was removed from them rather than them facing the consequences. AAARRRRRGH!

This morning I took him to school and he wouldn't line up. He burst into floods of tears and said he didn't want to go because "Bad things always happen to me every day at school, please don't make me go Mummy, I want to stay with you and Lilyboo." He wouldn't even go in with his best friend.

I was going to Easter Service so managed to persuade him to go in as I would be seeing him in a couple of minutes. Stayed for assembly, then as soon as he saw me when the children were filing out he crumpled and started sobbing again. A lovely year 6 boy came up and said "Is he ok? Do you want me to go with him and take him to his classroom?" I didn't know what to do, as all the teachers had gone and so had the rest of his class and I'm not authorised to go into the corridor unless I'm signed in, so I said yes, gave him a big hug and kiss and then hid and watched the boy take him to his teacher further up the corridor. She didn't even acknowledge him and stood there for five minutes talking to a TA without even looking at him then turned, took his hand (still without looking at him) and walked into the class. I wanted to run down the corridor, grab him and take him home there and then. Needless to say I sobbed all the way home.

So, I feel like we are back to square one. They know he is back on gluten and that this makes him emotionally sensitive, they know he is struggling and imo they are not doing a single thing to help him. I just want to take him out of school. Thank god its the holidays, he is very tired and really needs a break.

My question is, how do I get them to implement the stuff they promised on the IEP? I don't know who to approach. The Teacher had left the meeting when the final action plan was agreed, as she was still on part-time sick leave at the time so wasn't actually in charge of the class and the supply teacher agreed to everything. The SENCO is notoriously difficult to get hold of, no phone number or email address and doesn't work every day. His teacher is now back full time and frankly I feel she is a waste of space as she is 'nice' but always seems spacey and never seems to 'take action', which I assume is due to her medication as she has been off sick on and off for several years with severe depression. Should I write to the SENCO and copy her and the head in? I don't want to alienate anyone or come across as pushy as then I will meet with resistance as well, which won't help ds at all.

Sorry if this is coming across as all garbled, I'm still quite emotional about it all after this morning.

teaandcakeplease · 01/04/2010 11:33

MM - Sounds horrid, sending you a huge and a virtual cup of tea Hope the others can help.

I've never been a fan of having the children in my room or bed for exactly this reason. They share a room but I had to separate them as my DD was so ill and screaming every 30-40 mins and was disturbing DS She actually prefers sleeping in the travel cot right by my bed near me. But she just doesn't want to go back in her room now

So so sorry about this morning at school

moosemama · 01/04/2010 12:15

Thanks Tea. It was horrible. I have started a thread under special needs now and have just scoffed a load of chocolate caramels for comfort.

Poor little dd. I totally get why you had to put her in with you under the circumstances. Our rule is purely based on the fact that we have a tiny room and only a small double will fit in it, so there's no room for an extra body in our bed at night, even if its a tidgy one. There's only really just enough room for the two of us!

Right . How about a reward chart? Just a short term one. Either going straight for staying in her bed all night. Or breaking it down into stages, so maybe a star for going to bed in her own bed at bedtime. Then when you have that sussed, up the ante to only getting a star if she stays in bed for at least half the night, then after that for staying in her own bed all night.

I've forgotten what we did it for now, but we did one with ds when he was about the same age, he chose a toy he really wanted (it was a pull back Bob the Builder Lofty as I recall ) and once he had filled all the squares on his chart with stars we went with him to buy it. We made the chart together and stuck a picture of the toy he wanted on the top to remind him that when he had a star in every square that's what we were going to buy for him.

Just a thought, but might be worth a try if she's really determined to stay in with you.

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PatTheHammer · 01/04/2010 14:38

Moose- just write to the head expressing your concern. Don't pussy-foot around, say excatly what has happened, They have set targets for an IEP and in a fortnight, nothing has been implemented. If they are any sort of head they will deal with it promptly and sort it sensitively and properly.

Nothing happens for a few days, phone head to check they got letter and then ask what is being done as you still feel DS is distressed and see no sign of improvement

Now, if nothing else happens..............complain to the governors that the head has ignored a parental request.

I hate to tell you to go over the teacher's head on this, as I simply hate it when parents make a mountain out of a molehill by not phoning/emailing me directly. But she seems like a waste of time and effort and you have explained the situation to her countless times.

As regards to the senco, I don't know how it works in primary schools, but ours is always abailable if parents phone the school (except if she is teaching) but I suppose an issue if yours is only in a few days. All staff at my school are directly contactable by email, which we find very efficient (forgetting to phone parents back or having to leave messages were the bane of my life when I was a tutor).

On a lighter note: We would love to have your secret agents here to solve the animal carnage. Our video has caught exactly zilch evidence!

Books-Cakes sound yum! I am a total 'GLEEK', jus watched this weeks episode yesterday, how fab! MissJ, I guarantee you will love it!

Tea- Not sure but then I'm a bit soft on these things. Since we moved here in october DD has often snuck into our bed in the night. Sometimes we don't even notice her! I am a bit against hardline tactics as she is on a different floor and I don't want her to feel 'rejected' IYSWIM. I think softly, softly approach like making her bed seem evry appealing, rewarding time spent in her own bed by making her feel big and clever would be the way to go. It may be quite gradual though! What about you suggesting that you are sleeping in her bed??? Would she then see the attraction of it (reverse psychology?). If all else fails........does it matter if everyone is sleeping and settled for the mean time? If she is keeping you awake then fair enough, but it may not be worth the hassle if she puts up strong resistance

Dog- hope you are all feeling better. House sounds lovely

So, we got our school offer letter on monday and no surprises since we just put the local infants that never is over-subscribed. Anyway, cue DD in fits of tears because she is not going to the tiny primary affiliated with her pre-school, since lots of her friends going there. Now, she has known for months, since we moved the other side of town actually, that she isn't going there and she has been to see her school and everything. Still a bit upsetting for us though, not much we can do since it is full now anyway and also it was highly impractical (far away, no after-school/before school club which we need), too small for her imo and when I went to visit, I didn't really like the school and thought the facilities were a bit shoddy.

Popped round a friends this morning and she had a play with her DS, who is going to this said school, so I think she feels a bit better as I have said she will still see/play with her old friends even though they are at different schools. I am not too worried, as she is very sociable and makes friends easily but I am just feeling a bit guilty at the moment (mainly work-related guilt as per usual!)

Yesterday I had to leave work and pick her up from pre-school and bring her into work for the afternoon as my childminder had poorly DC's. Anyway, she spent half an hour watching Brian Cox's 'wonders of the solar system' with year 9.......and loved it! She then asked if she could just come to my school in september! Seemed a bit disappointed when I told her she had to be 11!

moosemama · 01/04/2010 17:46

Books,

this looks like what you need. They have quite a good range of dairy and soya free easter chocolate goodies, bunnies, eggs and even ducks!

Mmmm cake, thank you!

Pat, we aren't allowed to phone or email the teachers directly. We can only see them in the playground before or after school with all the other parents around. Hopeless! It also doesn't help that they are not always there as whoever took the last class brings them out at the end of the day.

The SENCO did say, feel free to contact me any time, but then added, but I am usually in meetings back to back and of course I don't have a phone in my room. Er, right, so HOW exactly are we supposed to get hold of you then? Typically, she isn't in on a Thursday so I couldn't speak to her today when it all came to a head.

Fortunately, being the last day of term ds actually had a lovely day. They let them choose what they wanted to do and he spent almost all day on the computer playing 'educational' games on various websites. So I've been sobbing all day and he's been absolutely fine - typical!

at dd wanting to skip primary and get stuck straight into secondary school! Hopefully she'll have developed a good bond with the other little girl who is going to her new school by September and will be fine when the time comes.

MissJ, dd gets sooo jealous if dh or I pick up or hug the boys at the moment. She thinks we are her property and she has exclusive rights. Its amazing how much difference a few months makes though and you've got plenty of time to help N make the adjustment. We bought ds1 a little baby doll when I was about 6 months pregnant, he wasn't very interested in it until ds2 arrived, then it became 'baby ds2' and had its nappy changed and feeds at the same time as ds2. I think it helped give ds1 something else to focus on.

120 · 01/04/2010 19:44

evening all.

Moose, sorry to hear about school troubles, hope you manage to get hold of someone. Glad he had a last good day before the hols though!

Tea, I can tell you what worked for us based on my sleep book (dr faber). We decided what we wanted eg her sleeping in her room all night and not sleeping in our room at all, then broke it into small steps. First if she came to us, one of us would go to her room with her and sleep there. Then we crept away during the night. Then we took her back and stayed with her a bit, gave a foot massage (part of our put down routine) and left. It works really well provided there isn't something bigger wrong like illness. I think the key is lots of tiny steps that always achieve the overall goal, with softly measures thrown in (yes, I'm a wuss)!

teaandcakeplease · 01/04/2010 20:48

After all my worry my DD after storytime agreed to get into her own bed

We shall see if she wakes in the night or not, as still poorly. As long as she doesn't disturb her brother too much it's all good.

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moosemama · 01/04/2010 22:09

Great news Tea, I shall keep everything crossed for a quiet night for you.

Dd is currently wide awake, sitting on her daddy's knee playing the ukelele.

tinkhastwoeasterbunnies · 02/04/2010 09:43

mm - what a pain hopefully time off vwill help
defintley speak to head about problems

hi to eyeone else happy good fri

PatTheHammer · 02/04/2010 10:50

Morning everyone.

Going on easter egg hunt organised by a friend's playgroup this afternoon, with face-painting etc and its meant to bucket down, hurrah!!!!!

Went out on friend's leaving do last night and have got a friend's 30th birthday bash tonight, I am knackered already thinking about it and it's April 2nd and I'm already skint!!!

Tea- good news that she seemed ok about going to her own bed. Hope last night went well.

Moose- LOL at DD not sleeping, but staying up for a Jam session with her Dad

Hope everyone has a fab easter weekend

missjackson · 02/04/2010 16:26

Hope everyone is having a fun Easter. I am freezing in DH's office answering emails. Not too much fun. My hands are numb! No heating in this part of the ancient building.

Easter egg hunt sounds fun but hope it didn't rain pat - and have fun tonight. We have a dinner party too, a rare occasion these days , and I can't even drink.

Oh I am a bundle of joy today, aren't I?!

MM really sorry to hear of your ongoing hassles with the school - it sounds really frustrating. Sounds like good advice from pat though - letters are always great because then you have a paper trail of your efforts - ime people will always make an effort to respond to a proper letter, whereas it's all too easy for things to get lost with face-to-face communication or on the phone.

Happy Easter everyone - I am off downstairs to warm up!

EachPeachPearMum · 02/04/2010 20:59

Many congratulations MissJ!
I am very happy for you.