October 08 - The Birthday Thread

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10th Sept (Due 1st Oct) - loulou33 - Boy - Joe Louis David - 6lbs 12oz
16th Sept (Due 8th Oct) - Ksal - Girl - Emma Rae - 6lbs
21st Sept (Due 5th Oct) - myjobismum - Girl - Naomi Caitlin - 5lbs 10oz
2nd Oct (Due 12th Oct) - star6 - Boy - Quinlan - 5lbs 15oz
3rd Oct (Due 26th Sept) - purpleflower - Girl - Rebecca Jill Erzsebet - 8lbs 10.5oz
4th Oct (Due 30th Sept) - Aubergenie - Boy - Stanley - 7lbs 12oz
8th Oct (Due 6th Oct) - ronshar - Boy - William Dexter - 7lbs 11oz
9th Oct (Due 17th) - Marthasmama/50ftQueenie - Girl - Martha - 7lbs 10oz - Elective c-sec
10th Oct (Due 1st Oct) - CantSleepWontSleep - Boy - Duncan Elliot - 8lbs 4oz
12th Oct (Due 4th Oct) - pistachio - Boy - Thomas Fraser - 10lbs 2oz
16th Oct (Due 11th Oct) - heather1980 - Boy - Alexander James - 9lbs 5oz
17th Oct (Due 10th Oct) - pepperrabbit - Girl - Jessica Rose - 7lbs 15.5oz
24th Oct (Due 29th Oct) - Ekka - Boy - Matthew - 7lbs 15oz - Home water birth with gas and air.
26th Oct (Due 20th Oct) - jenwa - Girl - Phoebe Jasmine - 9lbs 2.5oz
28th Oct (Due 23rd Oct) - RachieW - Boy - Jack - 7lbs 4oz
31st Oct (Due 20th Oct) - KnickersOnMaHead - Boy - Samuel Paul - 9lbs 11oz
5th Nov (Due 29th Oct) - Honeymoonmummy - Girl - Poppy Grace - 6lbs 15oz
5th Nov (Due 30th Oct) - MamaG - Boy - Harry James - 10lbs 9oz

Star - You can but try. It never works with M, she just gets louder and louder and louder and louder and.........

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I'm going to bed. But when I wake up tomorrow and go into work and turn on my computer, I'd like to see the mrcsws story on this thread. If not, I'm reporting mrcsws to MNHQ for stalking

Watching Life. I have to say I am absolutely amazed at the flying fish. They actually flap their fins in the air! I thought they just jumped a bit.

Happy birthday T.

W is poorly sick. He has a horrible cough which is waking him up loads.
So who was it?????

Myjob. I know you dont like to lie to people but cant you just bend the truth a little? Just tell people you are weaning N off. Then carry on feeding to your hearts content. (I think that is sort of what I am currently doing). Your hormones will be making you a little low at the monent. And also dont forget this is a massive moment for you and your family. If N is your last baby then this is you saying goodbye to a hugely important part of your being.
Maybe try to focus on the next stage in N life rather than holding onto her as baby. Dont shout at me. It is just a theory.

Star perhaps a quick trip to the GP and see if they can help with your breast problem. Doodle do is a program on cbeebies so it is probably quite popular. There is a young man with a lovely voice on it!
Mr CSWS did you watch Panorama tonight? Ryan Air.
So whats the story? Come on you cant lurk about and not share with us......

Aubergenie. Biting is bad. You are doing the best thing by teaching early that it isnt acceptable.

Dh says that I can tell you, so look here.

True, satisfied everyone .

Hi all

I've come to give my opinion on 3rd babies and to have a little moan about my AF reappearing today. It's horrible, SO heavy and painful and I feel rubbish! When BabyG feeds, it is so painful on my poor nipples! Am seriously considering weaning him off the breast so am interested in what others have done/are doing.

Re third babies I can honestly say that having BabyG was the best thing ever to happen to our family. We didn't feel incomplete before we had him, but he has made such a good difference to all our lives. DD (oldest age 10) is wonderful with him, so patient and loving. DS1 (age 5) has surprised us all with the love he has for his brother, no jealousy or impatience, the first thing he says every days is "is BabyG awake? can I go see him?"! I love having three. It was much harder going from 1 to 2 children than it was going from 2 to 3. As a friend of mine said (a Yorkshireman!) "its only another tatie [potato] int pot"

When I found out i was pg with him, I don't mind sharing that I was in an absolute panic, upset that one of the DC would have to share a room depending on sex of baby, worried about age gap between baby and DD, worried aobut fitting everybody into the car etc etc and even after his difficult birth (did I mention I had a difficult birth?!) I was so elated with him and still am, a year on

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a third baby to anyone

Hey all, I'm afraid I haven't read back and I'm off to bed now, I went to bed last night as soon as Poppy was asleep at 9 and both of us slept till 6.30!! Much needed! She also slept through the night before at the hotel, am seriously considering either living in a hotel or letting her sleep permanently in a travel cot (the latter may be slightly more practical)

I've booked her party in a nice pub with a playbarn that she loves. It's on Sunday 8th November at 11-1 and if anyone fancies coming along for it and to see sunny Cheshire, I'm afraid there's no room at our house but there's a couple of hotels nearby...I'm guessing that it will be a little too far for you all but you'd be very welcome!!

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Night all!

Star - We have S in the room with us as well and I think we sometimes jump up too quickly. It's just so loud in the middle of the night, isn't it. And I worry about the neighbours too, as they're directly above us. I'm sure we'd be a bit less reactive if S had his own room.

I slept on the sofa last night and let dp do the night shift until 5.15 when I went in and gave S a feed. He still woke up a few times but definitely seems to sleep better when I'm not around. I think I actually managed a 3 hour sleep. Haven't had one of those for months. Definitely feel better for it - I've been tearful and rubbish for the last week or so.

It's interesting to read your perspectives on having 3 children. I'm finding the prospect of needing to start trying for number two asap pretty overwhelming at the moment. I used to work with a woman who had six and she said that once you've got 3 or 4, it doesn't really make much difference, you may as well keep going. Maybe that's the answer.

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That page is BLOCKED on my school computer!!! I came in, ready to hear this story, and now I have to wait until I get home.

Thanks for the having 3 perspective MamaG. I love my 1 (even after a difficult birth - which I STILL remember quite clearly, although I'm over the moon happy with my baby Q). Maybe living in such a small space is just not letting my mind go there. Maybe once we move I'll feel differently. I don't know. I love 1.

Thanks MamaG. I knew you had a positive three children story. Naughty Ronshar scared DH at the weekend so I will have to read him your post. My AF returned when M was 4 months which is totally unfair as she still has about 4 feeds in the day (unless she's ill, then she has double that!). I think my nips have lost all sensation as the time of the month doesn't seem to bother me.

Awww MrCSWS - Now you truly are one of the girls after sharing with us. Don't be . I got food poisoning when I was pg with M and was really sick. But, as I was pg I had little control over my pelvic floor so did a wee whilst being sick. Lovely Mr50ft cleaned the floor as I was too round to bend down.

Ronshar - It wasn't M's illness as she didn't have a cough. she was just a bit hot, rashy and sleepy. Hope poor W feels better soon.

M is better this morning but was a pickle again last night. I really don't know what to do about it. On occasion, when I put her in her cot she screams and I mean screams like she fears for her life. It is horrible! She sounds really panicky and frightened. I can handle leaving her when she does the normal baby crying but not when she's screaming. Do you think that maybe it's separation anxiety again? I know it peaks again at this age & she was awful when she was 5/6 months. She'll only calm down while I am cuddling her. It's making us all very tired!

Mama G. I agree that having a third child is wonderful and I most certainly wouldn't change anything. The girls love their little brother and help out loads.

The thing that worries me is that I am one of 6. And the pressure to always "help out" comes at the expense of your own life. I know that financially my parents struggled. I had hand me down everything. I clearly remember not being able to do my homework because there wasnt anywhere in the house that was quiet.
I know for a fact that DD2 has missed out on loads since W has arrived. DD1 sometimes is starved for affection because I have been so tired. By the end of each day I am fit for nothing so my relationship with DH has suffered a great deal.

All I have said is that if you are considering another child then think very carefully because yes it is easy to just add in another one, is it fair to your other children and to you?

50ft I dont blame M. I think W may have been storing up his illness for when I wanted to stop feeding. Cunning.

Ah probably Ronshar. I am convinced that M has started to be more clingy because I have been discussing going back to work and sending her to nursery. I apologise if I have been unfair to you about the three children thing. The things you have mentioned are the exact reason we are still debating the practicalities of another baby. On one hand we feel like we need another baby to make the family complete but on the other hand we are already suffering as a couple and DS often suffers a little bit because M is still so demanding. I also feel I will need to change a fair bit because, as you all know, I love shopping (really? Nobody would ever guess!) and that would not be so easy with another baby. My head says stop at two but my heart says have another one. I usually listen to my heart but this is too important. The main problem for me is that although it would appear that the CT scan results were ok (I've still not heard!) the consultant still wants to whip everything out, so the decision is that much harder. If we decide not to have another one and I have the op, we can never change our minds. I fear that we will never actually make our minds up and end up making the wrong decision! Either way, there would be no going back for us.

oh dear ronshar, it was probably emma (or me) i have an absolute stinker of a cold the last couple of days. sorryyyy

Interesting post Ronshar . As parents, ew have to be so careful not to fall into the trap of asking DD ot do things for the baby all the time "oh, just watch the baby while I make dinner", "oh just nip upstairs for some nappies" etc but I do think that there is a HUGE difference between 3 and 6. DD has her own room and while the boys share, I'm very aware of how important it is for children to have their own space so as they get older, we plan to either add a conservatory w hich will be primarily used as a playroom, or possibly even convert hte loft, haven't decided yet. I know we are quite lucky financially that we don't have to rely on hand-me-downs ALL the time (although I have no objection to them as such, I agree that its crap for the younger child to never get anything new: my sister was in that boat!) - but BabyG is 32lbs to DS1's 31lbs so I think the baby might be handing down to DS1 soon

I don't think DD and DS1 have missed out on anything since I had BabyG, apart from in the very early days when I was recovering from the CS. I try to make sure that I give individual time to both older children (which is bloody difficult, I agree, but even spending 10 minutes baking a cake with ONE child means a lot to them IMO). Maybe its easier for me given the age gaps. DD and DS1 are both at school so my attention isn't so divided during the day and I can focus on them after school and when baby has gone to bed.

Mama G, you sound like a better parent than me. Yes 3 is different to 6. It wasnt all bad I remember having a fantastic childhood. Great fun. But I know from talking to my mum as an adult that things were tough.

I really do not want to put anyone off. I would love to have more babies because I love being pregnant and the whole baby thing. Maybe I need to play the lottery and then I can get a nanny

Ksal dont worry. W was a bit snotty before the weekend. Is Emma better now?

50ft. I have very thick skin. I put my opinion out there and expected a discusssion. I love to talk so I really dont mind.
I will apologis eto you as I hasd kind of forgotten about your impending decision. It does make things a bit more imediate for you. I would perhaps wait until you have had your consultant appointment to get all the facts avaliable. Then it should be easier! When is your next appointment?

OOOO I forgot to say morning swampy. You know who you are

Ronshar - Good, I'm glad I didn't piss you off. You don't need to apologise, I want honest opinions so forgetting about my 'situation' is helpful! I haven't heard anything, not even a letter. My next appointment is supposed to be at the end of November. I will seek a second opinion as some consultants don't see the need to treat what I had further once the offending bit has been removed, which it has.

I have lots of thinking to do.......

I am considering if we can afford to move to a bigger place and feel like we can afford another child in a few years time. I LOVE babies and the whole baby thing, but really honestly do not think I could bear the thought of childbirth again. When we had a little scare a few months ago I was literally shaking all over and thought I might have a nervous breakdown at the mere prospect of having to go through that again. but I do love the moment when the baby is born. I guess I'd have to either get it in writing that I would be allowed as cs BEFORE conceiving or adopt (which DH and I would love love love to do if we were in the right situation).

We both always think with our heads about big stuff like this. In my heart, I'd love another baby. But in my head, I know that it would be a struggle financially (at this point) and would not do our relationship any favours, either.

I know it's a big difference between deciding to have 2 and deciding to have 3 as you all are.

Can someone sum up the mrcsws story for me on here since I'm prohibited from entering that site all day?

Star - For a long long time I only wanted one. DS was awful when he was tiny and the thought of going through that again was horrible. M has been totally different, having her was the best decision we ever made. Maybe you should get some counseling to help you deal with your terrible birth experience.

I have counseling twice a week

don't be daft ronshar - I think its easier for me than others because of the age gaps: 4 1/2 years both times. I've never had 2 children under 4

star I don't know your birth story (is it on here?) but if you had a very bad time, I don't think you'd have any trouble getting an elective CS, if you're having counselling then your GP should recommend it Iwould have thought. Why not ask on the main forum? lulumama etc are usually v helpful

Oooo that's excellent news Star. I knew you had been but didn't know it was so regular. Are you finding it helpful?

It was more about the other reasons behind it, the internal exams... the way they had DH and another dr hold down my arms while I screamed not to do it and they forced their hands in anyway... blah, can't go into it now.

Yes, counseling is helpful. I've been using it more for DH and I to get back on track and happy, lately, though