May 2009 - we're all here! btw, does anyone know what the Hungry Cry sounds like?

[Momino]

phew! how many threads have we done since last aug?

llareggub - how annoying and frustrating.

my house is quiet, ironically. Harper is kicking contentedly (that's a first) under the playgym and dd1 and 2 have gone to the inlaws until saturday . I know I'm supposed to be relaxing without the toddlers but I can't help thinking how much i miss them and their cuddles even when they're difficult.

speaking of, 5min playtime is finished and H's pleasant kicking has turned into fussing which will become screams if i don't pick her up.

Gin, gin... who has the gin bottle? Please pass it this way ASAP as I'm about to blow my top !!!

Best nugget of 'advice' from MIL today was to give g some water mixed with honey from a bottle (to encourage him to take a bottle because he won't at the moment.) .

Now my DC are in the garden having a teddy bear's picnic with crisps, marshmellows, brownies & sweeties which they are devouring 20 minutes before their tea . I think the thing I really struggle with is that they completely ignore me and only want to play with her when she is here because she spoils them rotten. She then leaves and I am left with 2 brats who think I am the meanest Mum about because I say no to them.

The good news of the day is that DD2 went to pre-school and had no accidents. Hooray! Potty training has not been going too well up to today, and apart from the obligatory poo-in-the-pants this morning, there have been no further accidents. I suppose there is time yet though!

llare So sorry to hear that your shopping trip got spoilt. Hope you can manage to sort another day asap!

Ohhhh at the moment I am in heaven. I am much more of a homebody really and love doing things around the house, just in peace! My favorite is cooking. I used to spend hours on the weekend in the kitchen with my mom and gma laughing and cooking and drinking wine. Makes me miss my mom the most when I cook.

However, more to the point of the story, DH has taken DD to M&S to get my favorite dessert: chocolate fondant with their hazelnut toffee ice cream...oh god! Seriously you have to try it! And it HAS to be that combination...can't be beat...

Baby S is happily asleep in her swing and I managed to have an hour in the kitchen with music and got my lovely beef roast in the oven and my dauphinoise potatoes all made and ready to go in. My mushroom gravy is bubbling away on the stove, and my red cabbage is smelling very yummy too. I even enjoyed a very small glass of wine while I cooked. I feel so much better for having some time to do something I love doing.

And the best part is being able to eat it all in a bit! Just hope I can when it is still warm

At the moment I am feeling blissed out which I believe was much needed indeed.

tummum Your MIL is a beauty, isn't she .

My mum fills the girls with sweets and crisps and e-numbers when they go to hers and they come back irritable and gobby.

Momi Yep, that quote sums it up. Getting drinks, cutting up food, blowing food to cool it, feeding DD2 because she's bloody lazy, etc etc.

Hi all,

EBmom- Glad you will talk things through with your HV or GP. It definitely helps. However, I remember crying when I saw my GP for my 6 week check with DD, saying i couldn't relax and felt anxious all the time and woke up each morning dreading what the day would be like. And she said "that's totally normal". In a way, it probably helped as i just had to get on with things so maybe i wasn't depressed (even though i thought i might be) but when i saw she was pregnant with her first when i next saw her, i thought "haha, now you will find out what it's really like!".

I am also craving fizzy drinks (mainly diet coke), and even worse, i went shopping today and realised at 2pm i'd not had lunch and ended up having a mcdonalds (not great for weight loss )

DS2 has been unsettled today, but not surprising really. i had to take the car for its mot this morning, then went to meadowhell shopping centre again (as it was near the garage) to take some things back and buy more . I couldn't get him into his buggy at the shops without him screaming, so carried him in the sling for 1+ hours, then fed him (screaming if not feeding), then back in sling (as screaming) for another 1+ hour sleep, then another feed then a short 30 min quiet time where i could get him in the pushchair. I feel shattered from walking around for maybe 3 hours carrying either a baby or a big changing bag, and emotionally drained from him being so grumpy. And they couldn't finish the jobs on the car and said i could take it in next week, but i said i'd wait as i can't face doing it again. I was basically out from 9.30 to 3.45 which was too much.

And i missed my HV as i thought it was 2.30 tomorrow but she called today .

On a positive, my new moby wrap and swaddle pod cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=300298734345 from ebay had both been delivered, so S is now cocooned in his pod and has just had a comfort feed as he was so upset coming home as he kept falling asleep but then crying when the car stopped at lights.

aaarrrRRRGGHH! Another poo-in-the-pants incident approximately 2 minutes after sitting on the potty. (That's DD2, not myself ). I flaming hate potty training.

BTW, I am being a bit heartless and bitchy moaning about my MIL. She is trying really hard to be helpful and lovely, and I'm being a meany because it's just not how I would do things. I can still moan about it though...!

Llare what a nightmare about the shopping trip.

Pula what a nightmare about the shopping trip.

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Oh, and EmaBsMom can I come to your house for tea? We're having... errm, errm, pasta with pesto or toast

tummum and grumpy, I can relate with the MIL... i know when we get DD's back on Sat, they go through a sort of withdrawal from the in laws' spoiling, giving sweets, etc and are extra whingey and full of tantrums. can't wait .

grumpy, am listening to Im sorry I haven't a clue on bbc iplayer - can you get it on your PC?

EBsmom, sounds like a lovely afternoon. I on the other hand have been most unproductive. Not only have i not showered but am only just emptying out the dishwasher at 5pm from yesterday's dishes.

pula, glad GP said you're normal and hope she did find out.

now back to the dishes.

Sorry I havn't got time to comment on anyone The hospital went well, the consultant has put me on preventative medication for the migraines, it is migraines with aura or hemiplegic migraines, but this medication should keep them under control. J has got to go back after he's 1, and their going to do surgery on his ears, i got abit freaked out cause they said he'll have to be put to sleep, i thought great (sarcastically) i've got that to worry about for a year, and i know i will!

Took J to be weighed after the hospital, he's like jumped up one of those line thing's, he's 6w5d and 11lb 6, he's put on 9oz in a week, the HV said they can't really put on too much weight, but i thought that was alot! He's really getting chubby...I don't want to be over feeding him, I keep worrying about everything...I had a chat about how I've been feeling, and she did that test with me, my score was 18, which she said was abit high, to be honest I think with everything I'm having to deal with though, I'm not going to feel myself, but hey...thing's keep getting abit on top of me though, and I can't talk to DP, cause he just says it's PND again, because I hid it for so long with DD.
I'm lonely though, it's just me, J and DD, at home allday by ourselves, sometimes I just want somebody to talk to. I don't drive, so I can't just get in the car and go somewhere for the day our stupid avent steriliser broke last night, so that's really frustrated me, normally something stupid like that wouldn't, but that's made me upset, so I've got to go out again tonight when DP gets home to go steriliser shopping, I just want 5 minutes to myself

tummum- my mum drove me bonkers when she was here the other week- again, she was helpful in many ways (especially as DH and I were poorly) but her little comments and suggestions were not what i wanted, particularly around potty training DS1 (the last thing i need is pooey pants so i can empathise), and also when I took some ibuprofen to help with mastitis even though it said on the packet to only take under medical advice, when DS2 slept for more than 2 hours that evening which was quite good for him, she made some remark about him "being drugged" . And when I left her and DD in the park as i had to take a screaming baby home, she came back with multiple gifts for DD from the gift shop as she had been "so good" and of course, DD then played up that evening (I don't think it's good to spoil the DCs as it always makes them behave badly). My mum is having my DD for 5 or 6 days in July, which i am a bit nervous about as DD usually gets home sick after 2 days, and she always comes back full of sugar and stroppy.

All this talk of "helpful" suggestions re feeding reminds me of a story one of my lecturers told us during my training. This baby was loosing weight and she asked the mum how much milk the lo was having, upon which she asked her dh: how much milk are we now putting in X's tea?

llare what a horrible day you must have had. You must need some of that G&T that's been doing the rounds.

jael happy to hear your trip to the consultant went ok.

emmab you sound like a good cook. Potato dauphinoise. Very posh!

We had a good day. I mowed the lawn with C in the sling in the end. She really knows the sling now and calms down the minute I put her in and falls asleep in no time. She now weighs 12lbs5oz at 5weeks and 1 day. Not bad. I was also a bit worried about her belly button, because it still looks a bit open. The HV agreed it looked a bit inflamed and not healed yet, so I've made an appointment with the GP for her together with my 6 week check up.

Oh well, better go. Pizza is ready and DS has got to be at Beavers in 20 min. I hate tuesdays.

Sorry, but must share the latest potty training incident. Just now went out into the garden, and it was a bit, well, smelly. Hmmm, thinks Tummum. So went searching for a toddler turd. Found it - smeared all down the slide. Niiiiccceee! My DC have a penchant for slides when potty training. Took DD1 to the park when she was PT and she stood at the top and did a widdle which went zooming down the slide. DH and I were peeing ourselves laughing and made a swift exit before anyone noticed (after a quick wipe down of the slide with wet wipes.)

Sigh. The bottle of wine is already open after both DDs refused tea. Hardly surprising after the picnic...

tummum, lol (sorry), that is a good potty training story . oh, may i join you on that bottle?

Jael, its a good idea to keep a check on your feelings and you do need to interact with people. can anyone/friends come to you if you can't get out? i don't have a car either so understand a bit but then have playgroups and library within walking distance. is there anything like that in walking distance for you?

baby skin: Harper has just developed spots all round her face and neck. They're tiny and she seems healthy otherwise so would these be 'milk spots'? if so, how do i get rid if them? she also has a raised patch on her forehead which i'm dreading is beginning of eczema. dd1 &2 both have it so i wouldn't be surprised. will have gp look at it at 6wk check on sat.

don't know what i'm going to do this eve without DD1&2 supper/bath/bed hour palaver ritual. after H is finished feeding, i might take dog out. but then, i've been so lazy today i don't want to break the mould .

Momino- DS2 is quite spotty- face, neck and chest. Don't think the heat helps, but generally i just give him a cotton wool/water wipe and that helps a bit. Was going to ask my HV.

Momino Could it just be a heat rash? It has been a warm day today.

food radar My dcs were just as good at waking the minute my food is ready. I still have warm food though: I eat it one handedly and occasionally C gets dribbles of pasta sauce etc on her

Tummum Nice potty training story. My dd1 used to always do one in the bath. My theory was that she was a bit more relaxed in the bath making it easier. A bit like a water birth, lol.

Oh well, ds was late for beavers, but it is almost impossible to get from dd's gymnastics which finishes at 4.45 to beavers at 6 and eat inbetween that somehow.

I have this feeling that dh might come home today, but not sure. I've lost track a little of his schedule. How bad is that

hi, i think you're both right about the heat. i'll see how it is when it's cooler.

Hi all
Been Reading butnot much time to write today as A has been taking ages to feed and I have been trying to do some stuff in between. Big achievement myself is that I managed to dye my hair which has bee bugging me for weeks now. Glad I did it tho as we are supposed to be going to a wedding on sat and now at least I won't be all grey streaked!

Other milestone isxwe tried out our moby wrap and she loved it fell straight to sleep and I took her round the block for a walk which was really comfortable. Think it's going to be a godsend when dh goes back to work on thurs

Off to register A tomorrow got to be up and out of the house by 10.30 gonna be interesting

Hope all are well x x

Sorry about typos... One handed typing!

one handed here too. cluster feeding today.

RM, well done on your hair. may i ask what hair dye you use? it's about time i did mine, the greys are now sticking out and obvious but i don't want to pay £££to get someone else to do it.

TumMum I just about ended myself reading your potty training story, it sounds all too familiar!

Hubby is standing beside our wall with an umbrella and a hose, soaking the next door neighbours and avoiding being reciprocally soaked by aforementioned umbrella. Cheating sod!

momino it's the henna from lush - called les cacas. I mix two of the colours together the noir and the marron. I like it cos it's all plant based but it is a bit messy. Good thing is that you don't have to worry if you leave it on too long as it can be left overnight! I usually just leave it for a coupleof hours tho

oooh, henna that reminds me of my youth, lol. I do need to dye my hair though, because ds commented today that my hair was changing because it's dark at the top . I'm hanging on til closer to our holiday though.

I've realised today I need a 2nd sling. I mowed the lawn carrying C and the sling was soaking wet from sweating. I'm going to have to be without a sling now while washing it. I don't want to be without my magic sling. On the other hand my calin bleu is brilliant, I haven't even got backache after my lawn mowing antics. It's so supportive. runningmonkey Your Moby will be a godsend. Honestly, I've said it before, but slings are magic baby soothers

Gotta go now. C has decided to clusterfeed since about 7 and I had to make her hold on during the dcs bedtime routine. I'm now going to sit down with a nice pot cup of chamomile tea and a biscuit or two or three.

Hope everyone will have a good night.

momino Dd2 has had these for 3 days now. It's baby acne and normal. It comes and goes, and doesn't last too long.

Talipes Ds had slight talipes. Don't worry about them. We went to a physiotherapist and were given exercises to do a few times a day (changing nappy is a good prompt) and you wouldn't know he had them now.

PMSL at drive by shouting. Dh and I are a bit blue. DD is behaving appallingly at the moment. All we seem to be doing is telling her off. Please tell me it gets better.

jennster- same with our DD ATM. we are always loosing our tempers with her. she either ignores us when we're asking/telling her something or does a vicky pollard "yes but no but" impression, she bosses DS1 around and is generally mean to him , or else encourages him to copy her in being naughty.

DS2 has been unsettled tonight, waking if i put him down and cluster feeding. Might retire to bed soon if this carries on!